Don't forget Luis has very large teeth.
KPMG Bert van Marwijk (U6960)
Good point, well made
And quite freakish ears. Don't forget them...
Strange one, this - not sure WHY Evra would make these claims unless he genuinely believes Suarez said them. But you can guarantee Sky will have had teams of lip reading specialists, body language experts and psychic readers poring all over the footage, in a desperate attempt to drum something up - the fact they haven't shown ANY footage of what's been purported makes me believe Suarez.
I personally think that if there was one iota of truth in Evra's claims then both yesterday's and today's press would have been all over it like a rash.
If Suarez is totally innocent in this furore then I think that Evra needs to be harshly punished. The 'race' card is a very easy one to abuse but also one that should be respected. If there cannot be any evidence found then in my book Evra needs to be hauled before the FA/Uefa for bringing the game into disrepute.
It however does amaze me that, because of a 'kick' on the knee and being run ragged and given a light head by Suarez and Kuyt all day, the lengths a player will go to
I agree Evra should be punished, equally as harshly as Suarez should be if the accusations turn out to be true.
Furthermore Evra should be condemed in equal measure. Playing the 'race card' is, in my opinion as bad as someone being racist themselves. It is cowardly and it also reduces the impact of a genuine claim of racist abuse.
Lets also not forget that this would not be Evras first offence in this area.
talks Rubbish living up to his name as usual, please show me you complete mong a link in fact any link where Evra has been proven to be a liar, i await your no doubt backtracking response.
Have you managed to block out the incident with the Chelsea groundstaff?
Evra tried to claim he was acting in response to racial abuse then, when in actual fact he started the conflict and the only insult delivered was the groundsman to call him an idiot after Evra pushed him.
No backtracking needed
This is a poor, poor showing from Evra.
I really don't understand why you'd bother, especially now he's been shown up to be a complete prat as it looks like Suarez is innocent.
You are a complete moron of the highest order,
and how does this make Evra a liar you need to go back and read reports of that incident before you make yourself look like more of a berk than you already do, Evra alleged he was racially insulted but no evidence of this could be found that does NOT mean he was lying if you cannot tell the difference lets pray to god you never get a job anywhere near our justice system.
So there was no evidence whatsoever to support Evras claims, but I'm the moron for not believing the incident still took place
You really couldnt make it up.
Well thats not true, Evra probably could.
you never said it was your opinion that he lied you said he has history of this type of thing as if it was an accepted fact and there we have it your backtrack for everyone to see what a tool you are boy.
TalksRubbish
You're certainly not the one talking rubbish today .
shhhhhh Fred you think the opinion of a Liverpool wum backing up another Liverpool wum is one anyone respects you Liverpool fans are lower than a snakes belly as history has proven and was proved again with racist chants on Saturday
Not arrogant... are you saying that the member of the Chelsea groundstaff is a racist, with absolutely no evidence to support it at all?
Shocking from Evra, and just plain cowardly to lie about this sort of thing!
Not arrogant... are you saying that the member of the Chelsea groundstaff is a racist, with absolutely no evidence to support it at all?
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No i'm not where the hell did you get that from? i suggest you re-read the thread i know your a Liverpool fan and you naturally want to come to the aid of your fellow red men but making up lies is hardly the way to back up their own floundering arguments is it?
comment by Not Arrogant Just Better MUFC 19 We are buying a brand new perch this old one smells funny 19 (U9396) posted 2 minutes ago
shhhhhh Fred you think the opinion of a Liverpool wum backing up another Liverpool wum is one anyone respects you Liverpool fans are lower than a snakes belly as history has proven and was proved again with racist chants on Saturday
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First point to pick at, these guys are mostly on the Liverpool board making decent comments about our team, before you brush them under the wum blanket.
Ahh those fabled United supporters, who chant such wonderful things about Hillsborough and Heysel, even at a youth game, class just oozes out of your hypocritical support.
I do not condone racism in any way shape or form, and no real Liverpool fan would ever be shouting racist chants, but your accusations, a bit like Evra's, are a little unfounded as it is something the press would have pounced on, and official complaints about the crowd would have been made.
What the hell is wrong with United all of a sudden, things don't go the way and suddenly everybody is a racist!
Be careful who you call a racist son, any accusations of such unspeakable acts should not be uttered willy nilly like you just have.
Be careful who you call a racist son, any accusations of such unspeakable acts should not be uttered willy nilly like you just have.
I was there and i heard them myself, i stand by my claims
. Ahh those fabled United supporters, who chant such wonderful things about Hillsborough and Heysel, even at a youth game, class just oozes out of your hypocritical support.
oh that old nugget...... i suppose Liverpool fans never sing about Munich heres a video with them not singing about munich - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlHMyp_jIyw
Here we go. They said, so we said, so they said,so we said, round and round and f'kin round we go.
If Evra is shown to be a liar, which is looking increasing likely, again, he should be banned for the season at least by the FA and United should consider sacking him. The first time was bad enough and can perhaps can be mistaken for confusion in the language mix-up, however with him now making this claim again he should be punished if, which is looking likely, it proves to be false.
comment by Not Arrogant Just Better MUFC 19 We are buying a brand new perch this old one smells funny 19 (U9396) posted 22 seconds ago
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First of all, Evra also made those claims but they look to be false, there is always the odd idiot at games saying stupid things, one time at a Bournemouth game, I sit 3 rows back from the touchline, some prat starting with the racist jibes and me and many of the fans around him gave him a right bloody earful for it.
Also I did not say that Liverpool fans are innocent, but he who is without sin may throw the first stone, and United fans are far from innocent in this matter, so that is why I was calling you hypocritical. You'd need half a braincell to see the point I was trying to make but I guess that was too big of an ask.
Also why would you post a video of such a hideous thing, when it will clearly upset many of your fellow fans, just to make a point.
Slightly pathetic no?
You're not worth my time, I'm going for lunch.
Evra is clearly a liar. If he doesn't know what racial abuse is he should just shut up and get on with football.
And yes if there's no evidence to support any claims, it is false, which makes whoever made it a liar.
Impossible to prove he lied (if he did), as an absence of proof to support his case doesn't make him a liar...
It all boils down to the fact that City won and are now league leaders.
These Utd lads can't have the fact that they are now the 2nd team in Salford or wherever they come from
Yeah but the more it happens the more it becomes clear that Evra is nothing more than a liar.
But in this case I looks like he lied.
Also I don't know what the manc is trying to do. Promote stupid chants or discourage it? Would does posting a link of them do?
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posted on 17/10/11
Don't forget Luis has very large teeth.
posted on 17/10/11
KPMG Bert van Marwijk (U6960)
Good point, well made
posted on 17/10/11
And quite freakish ears. Don't forget them...
Strange one, this - not sure WHY Evra would make these claims unless he genuinely believes Suarez said them. But you can guarantee Sky will have had teams of lip reading specialists, body language experts and psychic readers poring all over the footage, in a desperate attempt to drum something up - the fact they haven't shown ANY footage of what's been purported makes me believe Suarez.
posted on 17/10/11
I personally think that if there was one iota of truth in Evra's claims then both yesterday's and today's press would have been all over it like a rash.
If Suarez is totally innocent in this furore then I think that Evra needs to be harshly punished. The 'race' card is a very easy one to abuse but also one that should be respected. If there cannot be any evidence found then in my book Evra needs to be hauled before the FA/Uefa for bringing the game into disrepute.
It however does amaze me that, because of a 'kick' on the knee and being run ragged and given a light head by Suarez and Kuyt all day, the lengths a player will go to
posted on 17/10/11
I agree Evra should be punished, equally as harshly as Suarez should be if the accusations turn out to be true.
Furthermore Evra should be condemed in equal measure. Playing the 'race card' is, in my opinion as bad as someone being racist themselves. It is cowardly and it also reduces the impact of a genuine claim of racist abuse.
Lets also not forget that this would not be Evras first offence in this area.
posted on 17/10/11
talks Rubbish living up to his name as usual, please show me you complete mong a link in fact any link where Evra has been proven to be a liar, i await your no doubt backtracking response.
posted on 17/10/11
Have you managed to block out the incident with the Chelsea groundstaff?
Evra tried to claim he was acting in response to racial abuse then, when in actual fact he started the conflict and the only insult delivered was the groundsman to call him an idiot after Evra pushed him.
No backtracking needed
posted on 17/10/11
This is a poor, poor showing from Evra.
I really don't understand why you'd bother, especially now he's been shown up to be a complete prat as it looks like Suarez is innocent.
posted on 17/10/11
You are a complete moron of the highest order,
and how does this make Evra a liar you need to go back and read reports of that incident before you make yourself look like more of a berk than you already do, Evra alleged he was racially insulted but no evidence of this could be found that does NOT mean he was lying if you cannot tell the difference lets pray to god you never get a job anywhere near our justice system.
posted on 17/10/11
So there was no evidence whatsoever to support Evras claims, but I'm the moron for not believing the incident still took place
You really couldnt make it up.
Well thats not true, Evra probably could.
posted on 17/10/11
you never said it was your opinion that he lied you said he has history of this type of thing as if it was an accepted fact and there we have it your backtrack for everyone to see what a tool you are boy.
posted on 17/10/11
TalksRubbish
You're certainly not the one talking rubbish today .
posted on 17/10/11
shhhhhh Fred you think the opinion of a Liverpool wum backing up another Liverpool wum is one anyone respects you Liverpool fans are lower than a snakes belly as history has proven and was proved again with racist chants on Saturday
posted on 17/10/11
Not arrogant... are you saying that the member of the Chelsea groundstaff is a racist, with absolutely no evidence to support it at all?
Shocking from Evra, and just plain cowardly to lie about this sort of thing!
posted on 17/10/11
Not arrogant... are you saying that the member of the Chelsea groundstaff is a racist, with absolutely no evidence to support it at all?
.....
No i'm not where the hell did you get that from? i suggest you re-read the thread i know your a Liverpool fan and you naturally want to come to the aid of your fellow red men but making up lies is hardly the way to back up their own floundering arguments is it?
posted on 17/10/11
comment by Not Arrogant Just Better MUFC 19 We are buying a brand new perch this old one smells funny 19 (U9396) posted 2 minutes ago
shhhhhh Fred you think the opinion of a Liverpool wum backing up another Liverpool wum is one anyone respects you Liverpool fans are lower than a snakes belly as history has proven and was proved again with racist chants on Saturday
____________________________________
First point to pick at, these guys are mostly on the Liverpool board making decent comments about our team, before you brush them under the wum blanket.
Ahh those fabled United supporters, who chant such wonderful things about Hillsborough and Heysel, even at a youth game, class just oozes out of your hypocritical support.
I do not condone racism in any way shape or form, and no real Liverpool fan would ever be shouting racist chants, but your accusations, a bit like Evra's, are a little unfounded as it is something the press would have pounced on, and official complaints about the crowd would have been made.
What the hell is wrong with United all of a sudden, things don't go the way and suddenly everybody is a racist!
Be careful who you call a racist son, any accusations of such unspeakable acts should not be uttered willy nilly like you just have.
posted on 17/10/11
Be careful who you call a racist son, any accusations of such unspeakable acts should not be uttered willy nilly like you just have.
I was there and i heard them myself, i stand by my claims
. Ahh those fabled United supporters, who chant such wonderful things about Hillsborough and Heysel, even at a youth game, class just oozes out of your hypocritical support.
oh that old nugget...... i suppose Liverpool fans never sing about Munich heres a video with them not singing about munich - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlHMyp_jIyw
posted on 17/10/11
Here we go. They said, so we said, so they said,so we said, round and round and f'kin round we go.
posted on 17/10/11
If Evra is shown to be a liar, which is looking increasing likely, again, he should be banned for the season at least by the FA and United should consider sacking him. The first time was bad enough and can perhaps can be mistaken for confusion in the language mix-up, however with him now making this claim again he should be punished if, which is looking likely, it proves to be false.
posted on 17/10/11
comment by Not Arrogant Just Better MUFC 19 We are buying a brand new perch this old one smells funny 19 (U9396) posted 22 seconds ago
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First of all, Evra also made those claims but they look to be false, there is always the odd idiot at games saying stupid things, one time at a Bournemouth game, I sit 3 rows back from the touchline, some prat starting with the racist jibes and me and many of the fans around him gave him a right bloody earful for it.
Also I did not say that Liverpool fans are innocent, but he who is without sin may throw the first stone, and United fans are far from innocent in this matter, so that is why I was calling you hypocritical. You'd need half a braincell to see the point I was trying to make but I guess that was too big of an ask.
Also why would you post a video of such a hideous thing, when it will clearly upset many of your fellow fans, just to make a point.
Slightly pathetic no?
You're not worth my time, I'm going for lunch.
posted on 17/10/11
Evra is clearly a liar. If he doesn't know what racial abuse is he should just shut up and get on with football.
And yes if there's no evidence to support any claims, it is false, which makes whoever made it a liar.
posted on 17/10/11
Impossible to prove he lied (if he did), as an absence of proof to support his case doesn't make him a liar...
posted on 17/10/11
It all boils down to the fact that City won and are now league leaders.
These Utd lads can't have the fact that they are now the 2nd team in Salford or wherever they come from
posted on 17/10/11
Yeah but the more it happens the more it becomes clear that Evra is nothing more than a liar.
posted on 17/10/11
But in this case I looks like he lied.
Also I don't know what the manc is trying to do. Promote stupid chants or discourage it? Would does posting a link of them do?
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