comment by Fred Bassett - The world's most epic and most swindling of epic swindles. (U3979)
posted 2 minutes ago
Vidic
Come on mate, you can write more constructive posts than that. Incredibly hypocritical after my comment from the previous post. There is a difference to cheating in a sport as you call it, and racially abusing somebody.
Biting was just weird, but these things are not the issue at hand.
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Fred
You (Liverpool fans) can't use Evra's 'association with racism' and expect us not to use Suarez previous behavior as well.
I wonder if Bellars is going to teach him how to use a four iron?
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I was referring to this part Vidic.
comment by Fred Bassett - The world's most epic and most swindling of epic swindles. (U3979)
posted 36 seconds ago
Did Rio appologise for this. I sincerely hope so. If not he is an ars e. If he apologised, what is the issue?
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So if Suarez is found guilty and apologises, I shall remember that it is not an issue.
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Fred
Accidentally kicking a female steward, under any stretch of imagination, is not the same as racial abuse.
Come on now, that was poor.
comment by Fred Bassett - The world's most epic and most swindling of epic swindles. (U3979)
posted 54 seconds ago
I wonder if Bellars is going to teach him how to use a four iron?
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I was referring to this part Vidic.
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Tongue in cheek Fred.
Suarez does semm to have everything else covered though.
Tongue in cheek (again).
Come on Fred. Use your head.
iCraft uGraft - Believable Tekkers (U1193)
You say this, but my two best friends have foreign parents, but say they are English, would you tell them they were wrong to think that way?
It's a really really hop topic in France by the way, deciding when somebody is French and when they are not.
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It's not about saying whether they are English or not. I'd class Henry/Anelka/Abidal as French as they have been brought up there.
It's the fact that, technically, they are not French (again, their ancestors aren't anyway)
Vidic
Here we go again, me vs you.
I would like to point out the linguistic aspect of what Suarez said, many foreign people who speak very little of a language are unaware of the offense, venomisty of vulgarity or certain words.
Hence you hear the C word fairly frequently when foreign people try to speak English.
Not defending him here, but there is a chance that he was unaware of exactly how offensive the word is in English. A bit like if I say bâtard, which is incredibly offensive in French, but I don't find it offensive, so use it like I would any light hearted curse in English.
Of course, IF, and a big if here, Suarez is found out to have said these comments, he should incur a heavy punishment, but this part should be taken into consideration.
It would be a whole different ball game if Suarez spoke fluent English, but after I saw an interview with him after the Everton game, I can assure you that at the current time his English is pretty woeful.
Vidic
Just not neccesary though, clearly going to wind up LFC fans and turn this into a Liverpool players vs United players debate, we don't need another one here.
Obviously, since they point blank refuse to admit the fact that ours are better.
Fred
No intent on widing anyone up at all. I actually thought (how silly of me) you would find it tounge in cheek.
There are going to be no winners on the Evra / Suarez issue. Not between them or us, the fans.
Vidic
It's just a issue we should leave alone really, if it turns out that Suarez is wrong, we all have every right to be livid with him.
If it turns out Evra is lying, how will you honestly react?
Actually if we want to be as pedantic about what was said and by whom - eg utd fans claiming Evra has never accused anybody of racism - we can claim that Suarez didn't use a racially abusive word - unless someone can find the report with 'the word' in it.
" he said a 'certain' word to me at least 10 times"
OK what was the 'certain' word??
Language barriers and all!!
How hilarious would it be af it the end of the day it turns out that Suarez just kept saying FROG! over and over again?
comment by Fred Bassett - The world's most epic and most swindling of epic swindles. (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
Vidic
It's just a issue we should leave alone really, if it turns out that Suarez is wrong, we all have every right to be livid with him.
If it turns out Evra is lying, how will you honestly react?
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I hope SAF suspends him for at least three games.
Fair play Vidic I'll hold you to that.
Consider it bookmarked.
I think there will be FA sanctions though.
I think there will be FA sanctions though.
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My take is that it will not (and more likely can not) be proved either way.
The FA will probably call both players in for a chat, and that will be it.
I doubt we will ever know the answer to what has happened.
you only hate him because you secretly love him
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^^ You don't need the second word, it's implied already in using the 1st.
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posted on 18/10/11
comment by Fred Bassett - The world's most epic and most swindling of epic swindles. (U3979)
posted 2 minutes ago
Vidic
Come on mate, you can write more constructive posts than that. Incredibly hypocritical after my comment from the previous post. There is a difference to cheating in a sport as you call it, and racially abusing somebody.
Biting was just weird, but these things are not the issue at hand.
.......................
Fred
You (Liverpool fans) can't use Evra's 'association with racism' and expect us not to use Suarez previous behavior as well.
posted on 18/10/11
I wonder if Bellars is going to teach him how to use a four iron?
________________________________________
I was referring to this part Vidic.
posted on 18/10/11
comment by Fred Bassett - The world's most epic and most swindling of epic swindles. (U3979)
posted 36 seconds ago
Did Rio appologise for this. I sincerely hope so. If not he is an ars e. If he apologised, what is the issue?
__________________________________________
So if Suarez is found guilty and apologises, I shall remember that it is not an issue.
................
Fred
Accidentally kicking a female steward, under any stretch of imagination, is not the same as racial abuse.
Come on now, that was poor.
posted on 18/10/11
comment by Fred Bassett - The world's most epic and most swindling of epic swindles. (U3979)
posted 54 seconds ago
I wonder if Bellars is going to teach him how to use a four iron?
________________________________________
I was referring to this part Vidic.
...................
Tongue in cheek Fred.
Suarez does semm to have everything else covered though.
Tongue in cheek (again).
posted on 18/10/11
Come on Fred. Use your head.
posted on 18/10/11
iCraft uGraft - Believable Tekkers (U1193)
You say this, but my two best friends have foreign parents, but say they are English, would you tell them they were wrong to think that way?
It's a really really hop topic in France by the way, deciding when somebody is French and when they are not.
---------------
It's not about saying whether they are English or not. I'd class Henry/Anelka/Abidal as French as they have been brought up there.
It's the fact that, technically, they are not French (again, their ancestors aren't anyway)
posted on 18/10/11
Vidic
Here we go again, me vs you.
I would like to point out the linguistic aspect of what Suarez said, many foreign people who speak very little of a language are unaware of the offense, venomisty of vulgarity or certain words.
Hence you hear the C word fairly frequently when foreign people try to speak English.
Not defending him here, but there is a chance that he was unaware of exactly how offensive the word is in English. A bit like if I say bâtard, which is incredibly offensive in French, but I don't find it offensive, so use it like I would any light hearted curse in English.
Of course, IF, and a big if here, Suarez is found out to have said these comments, he should incur a heavy punishment, but this part should be taken into consideration.
It would be a whole different ball game if Suarez spoke fluent English, but after I saw an interview with him after the Everton game, I can assure you that at the current time his English is pretty woeful.
posted on 18/10/11
Vidic
Just not neccesary though, clearly going to wind up LFC fans and turn this into a Liverpool players vs United players debate, we don't need another one here.
posted on 18/10/11
Obviously, since they point blank refuse to admit the fact that ours are better.
posted on 18/10/11
Fred
No intent on widing anyone up at all. I actually thought (how silly of me) you would find it tounge in cheek.
There are going to be no winners on the Evra / Suarez issue. Not between them or us, the fans.
posted on 18/10/11
Vidic
It's just a issue we should leave alone really, if it turns out that Suarez is wrong, we all have every right to be livid with him.
If it turns out Evra is lying, how will you honestly react?
posted on 18/10/11
Actually if we want to be as pedantic about what was said and by whom - eg utd fans claiming Evra has never accused anybody of racism - we can claim that Suarez didn't use a racially abusive word - unless someone can find the report with 'the word' in it.
" he said a 'certain' word to me at least 10 times"
OK what was the 'certain' word??
Language barriers and all!!
posted on 18/10/11
How hilarious would it be af it the end of the day it turns out that Suarez just kept saying FROG! over and over again?
posted on 18/10/11
comment by Fred Bassett - The world's most epic and most swindling of epic swindles. (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
Vidic
It's just a issue we should leave alone really, if it turns out that Suarez is wrong, we all have every right to be livid with him.
If it turns out Evra is lying, how will you honestly react?
...................
I hope SAF suspends him for at least three games.
posted on 18/10/11
Fair play Vidic I'll hold you to that.
Consider it bookmarked.
I think there will be FA sanctions though.
posted on 18/10/11
I think there will be FA sanctions though.
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My take is that it will not (and more likely can not) be proved either way.
The FA will probably call both players in for a chat, and that will be it.
posted on 18/10/11
I doubt we will ever know the answer to what has happened.
posted on 18/10/11
you only hate him because you secretly love him
posted on 18/10/11
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posted on 19/10/11
^^ You don't need the second word, it's implied already in using the 1st.
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