Listen, I and I'm sure all Forest fans, say thanks to ND, his investment and his willingness not to demand his money back.
He obvioulsy was and is a big fan.
But eat humble pie, NO CHANCE, he ran the business appallingly, he made no efforts to reduce costs!
He made mistake after mistake, not neccersarily all his, but the people below him whom he paid to do the job!
Sacking BD (despite what some people say) was a terrible decision!
I've got no malice towards the man, but I'm honestly glad to see the back of him!
Now he has said he won't be claiming this back, it would be nice for these people to come out and maybe eat a bit of humble pie. And before you say it, yes he had to go, yes he made poor decisions, yes we had 12 years of misery (not necessarily my opinions I must add).
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Well, you said it ............
Doughty has made appallingly bad decisions regarding the running of the club during his entire tenure. Everyone with half a brain knows his endless list of failures.
If Doughty truly loved the club, he'd sell us immediately to the best bidder. All his public 'resignation at the end of the season, is purely another stalling tactic to try to get some of the fans of his back. Unfortunately for him, fans that do actually care enough, now all know what he is like and won't let it go now until he's out and actually sells the club.
Only after the point of him selling us, can we begin to start the long road to recovery of his ruinous mis-management. And on top of ND being away fromm the club, a new owner would mean a new ceo so it' d be the other moron Marthur away too. This club needs players to prevent another return to Lg 1. The only way that can happen is to sell the club now and allow a new buyer time to spend in January. Sell up now Doughty and do the decent thing for us fans for a change
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Why would he want to do that?
That should be the job of the Chief Exec!
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Stret who paid the CE?????????????
Why do u fink most people who critisise ND, accept it might not neccersarily be his decisions but the people directly under him who he is paying!
The person at the top always has to take responsabilty!
ALWAYS
Trees, with all due respect, I think you are missing the point
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You just keep burying your head in the sand little boy . Keep pretending everything at the club is just spiffing and that some nasty fans have tried to turn on your wonderful saviour of our club and forced him out.
You are a waste of space for never wanting to find the truth out. You'll know what we are all on about after he sells the club just how gullible you have been. Just cannot comprehend a fan who takes everything at face value as truth without looking at the actual details of what happens.
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Stret are u 4 real, unless its money laundering why would you run it at a loss on purpose!
Thing about insults stret, it's just frustration with ur dogged defence of the undefencable, u don't seem to accept what's striaght in front of you!
Why do people want him to go so much now? He is not making decisions? He has a footballing man in the hot seat. More importantly a man who has been a success for us as a player and a manager and knows the club inside out albeit he should of been in place sooner. Even more importantly the chairman is full time. Not jetting off around the world for this and that. Even more importantly he has the last word over the likes of Mark Arthur. As far as I'm concerned his £750,000 a month is still needed and no one is going to buy the club.
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He made no effort to reduce costs? I'm confused as to what the supposed trouble between board and manager was then? That saga ran through BD and SMc's reigns.
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That's the thing AS. I do not think that he has done a bad job!
He has made mistakes, but the way he has been treated by a vocal minority of fans is nothing short of a disgrace!
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I'm sorry, no disrespect but you wonder why people abuse you!
I understand that AS, It's just over the past 10 years of ND's tenure, he has had no reason to 'balance the books' as there has been no legal framework (except good business granted) so he could just write another cheque!
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Saying a man don't need to worry about saving money is plain dumb!
that old saying ,a fool and his money are easily parted, rings true in this case.
Actually stret, putting it like that, yeah you're right, I accept that, but it still don't mean it don't matter if u waste money either!
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He is not making decisions? He has a footballing man in the hot seat. More importantly a man who has been a success for us as a player and a manager and knows the club inside out albeit he should of been in place sooner. Even more importantly the chairman is full time. Not jetting off around the world for this and that. Even more importantly he has the last word over the likes of Mark Arthur. As far as I'm concerned his £750,000 a month is still needed and no one is going to buy the club.
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That's the kind of gullible statement that has seen Forest fans allow Nigel Doughty to remain in charge during an unprecedented term of failure. 12 years, that just wouldn't happen at any other club in fotoball. No other team would put up with that level of appalling management for 3 yrs , let alone 12.
I'm staggered that you actually believe anything that Doughty says again after all the lies to the fans down the years ?
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I agree with Tree's here. Club communication with it's fan's [Martha's job] is bloody awfull that canot be denied.
Martha does as Doughty tells him, why pay Pleat £120,000 pa as a part time consultant. How many times have I read on this forum a supposedly knowledgeable opinion that he was unpaid eh Stretta??
How many millions have been wasted on an over the hill football expert who wasn't really interested in Forest, only Spurs?
The players who joined the club in the last 6 years how many have been successful buys, how many failures ?who bought them, the comtempory manager or Pleat?
Who likes slow midfielders Billy [no] Pleat or McClaren who obviously know nowt about the Championship.
Such an obvious bad move to appoint McClaren and so obviously NOT PLANNED he was sitting in his hotel room having been refused an interview at Aston Villa when who should turn up but the smiling slick opportunity nocks Hughie McArthur. It's just one long well marked trail of COMPLETE INCOMPETANCE.
Who employs the clown = Martha yes Doughnut!
Therefore he must fall on his sword or any other sharp instrument. I just cannot understand how any fan cannot see what is happening and swallow's everthing that Doughty says, when he can be bothered, he makes sure his own PR is spot on though..............DOH
The only point I was trying to make was that one of the main reasons people had for ND to leave NFFC, which was constantly harped on about , ended up being a load of tosh, and these people should man up and admit they were wrong.
This is completely aside from all other points relating to his tenure and other issues people had with him.
I really liked ND, and wish things had turned out differently, but in the end he made some very bad choices and I think he has made the right decision (ironically).
When you think about it, it was Doughty's decisions that lost him his own money. He might like us to think he is a superhero and great guy leaving his money in, at the moment, but after ten years of failure, I beg to differ.
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I agree with Tree's here. Club communication with it's fan's [Martha's job] is bloody awfull that canot be denied.
Martha does as Doughty tells him, why pay Pleat £120,000 pa as a part time consultant. How many times have I read on this forum a supposedly knowledgeable opinion that he was unpaid eh Stretta??
How many millions have been wasted on an over the hill football expert who wasn't really interested in Forest, only Spurs?
The players who joined the club in the last 6 years how many have been successful buys, how many failures ?who bought them, the comtempory manager or Pleat?
Who likes slow midfielders Billy [no] Pleat or McClaren who obviously know nowt about the Championship.
Such an obvious bad move to appoint McClaren and so obviously NOT PLANNED he was sitting in his hotel room having been refused an interview at Aston Villa when who should turn up but the smiling slick opportunity nocks Hughie McArthur. It's just one long well marked trail of COMPLETE INCOMPETANCE.
Who employs the clown = Martha yes Doughnut!
Therefore he must fall on his sword or any other sharp instrument. I just cannot understand how any fan cannot see what is happening and swallow's everthing that Doughty says, when he can be bothered, he makes sure his own PR is spot on though..............DOH
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RFB, spot on mate.
Whichever way you want to say it, after 12 years in charge of a dreadful period of failure in our history, the only actual logical conclusion has to be he has to be forced to sell the club. I'm staggered at his article on the OS that he is just still in complete cloud cuckoo land abotu the appalling state the club's finances are and he just seems to be unable to acknowledge, as the owner, they are your failures when it goes as spectacularly wrong as we have under his tenure.
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posted on 19/10/11
Listen, I and I'm sure all Forest fans, say thanks to ND, his investment and his willingness not to demand his money back.
He obvioulsy was and is a big fan.
But eat humble pie, NO CHANCE, he ran the business appallingly, he made no efforts to reduce costs!
He made mistake after mistake, not neccersarily all his, but the people below him whom he paid to do the job!
Sacking BD (despite what some people say) was a terrible decision!
I've got no malice towards the man, but I'm honestly glad to see the back of him!
posted on 19/10/11
Now he has said he won't be claiming this back, it would be nice for these people to come out and maybe eat a bit of humble pie. And before you say it, yes he had to go, yes he made poor decisions, yes we had 12 years of misery (not necessarily my opinions I must add).
...........
Well, you said it ............
Doughty has made appallingly bad decisions regarding the running of the club during his entire tenure. Everyone with half a brain knows his endless list of failures.
If Doughty truly loved the club, he'd sell us immediately to the best bidder. All his public 'resignation at the end of the season, is purely another stalling tactic to try to get some of the fans of his back. Unfortunately for him, fans that do actually care enough, now all know what he is like and won't let it go now until he's out and actually sells the club.
Only after the point of him selling us, can we begin to start the long road to recovery of his ruinous mis-management. And on top of ND being away fromm the club, a new owner would mean a new ceo so it' d be the other moron Marthur away too. This club needs players to prevent another return to Lg 1. The only way that can happen is to sell the club now and allow a new buyer time to spend in January. Sell up now Doughty and do the decent thing for us fans for a change
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posted on 19/10/11
Why would he want to do that?
That should be the job of the Chief Exec!
___________________
Stret who paid the CE?????????????
Why do u fink most people who critisise ND, accept it might not neccersarily be his decisions but the people directly under him who he is paying!
The person at the top always has to take responsabilty!
ALWAYS
posted on 19/10/11
Trees, with all due respect, I think you are missing the point
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You just keep burying your head in the sand little boy . Keep pretending everything at the club is just spiffing and that some nasty fans have tried to turn on your wonderful saviour of our club and forced him out.
You are a waste of space for never wanting to find the truth out. You'll know what we are all on about after he sells the club just how gullible you have been. Just cannot comprehend a fan who takes everything at face value as truth without looking at the actual details of what happens.
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Stret are u 4 real, unless its money laundering why would you run it at a loss on purpose!
posted on 19/10/11
Thing about insults stret, it's just frustration with ur dogged defence of the undefencable, u don't seem to accept what's striaght in front of you!
posted on 19/10/11
Why do people want him to go so much now? He is not making decisions? He has a footballing man in the hot seat. More importantly a man who has been a success for us as a player and a manager and knows the club inside out albeit he should of been in place sooner. Even more importantly the chairman is full time. Not jetting off around the world for this and that. Even more importantly he has the last word over the likes of Mark Arthur. As far as I'm concerned his £750,000 a month is still needed and no one is going to buy the club.
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He made no effort to reduce costs? I'm confused as to what the supposed trouble between board and manager was then? That saga ran through BD and SMc's reigns.
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That's the thing AS. I do not think that he has done a bad job!
He has made mistakes, but the way he has been treated by a vocal minority of fans is nothing short of a disgrace!
____________________________
I'm sorry, no disrespect but you wonder why people abuse you!
I understand that AS, It's just over the past 10 years of ND's tenure, he has had no reason to 'balance the books' as there has been no legal framework (except good business granted) so he could just write another cheque!
______________________________
Saying a man don't need to worry about saving money is plain dumb!
posted on 19/10/11
that old saying ,a fool and his money are easily parted, rings true in this case.
posted on 19/10/11
Actually stret, putting it like that, yeah you're right, I accept that, but it still don't mean it don't matter if u waste money either!
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posted on 19/10/11
He is not making decisions? He has a footballing man in the hot seat. More importantly a man who has been a success for us as a player and a manager and knows the club inside out albeit he should of been in place sooner. Even more importantly the chairman is full time. Not jetting off around the world for this and that. Even more importantly he has the last word over the likes of Mark Arthur. As far as I'm concerned his £750,000 a month is still needed and no one is going to buy the club.
...........
That's the kind of gullible statement that has seen Forest fans allow Nigel Doughty to remain in charge during an unprecedented term of failure. 12 years, that just wouldn't happen at any other club in fotoball. No other team would put up with that level of appalling management for 3 yrs , let alone 12.
I'm staggered that you actually believe anything that Doughty says again after all the lies to the fans down the years ?
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posted on 19/10/11
I agree with Tree's here. Club communication with it's fan's [Martha's job] is bloody awfull that canot be denied.
Martha does as Doughty tells him, why pay Pleat £120,000 pa as a part time consultant. How many times have I read on this forum a supposedly knowledgeable opinion that he was unpaid eh Stretta??
How many millions have been wasted on an over the hill football expert who wasn't really interested in Forest, only Spurs?
The players who joined the club in the last 6 years how many have been successful buys, how many failures ?who bought them, the comtempory manager or Pleat?
Who likes slow midfielders Billy [no] Pleat or McClaren who obviously know nowt about the Championship.
Such an obvious bad move to appoint McClaren and so obviously NOT PLANNED he was sitting in his hotel room having been refused an interview at Aston Villa when who should turn up but the smiling slick opportunity nocks Hughie McArthur. It's just one long well marked trail of COMPLETE INCOMPETANCE.
Who employs the clown = Martha yes Doughnut!
Therefore he must fall on his sword or any other sharp instrument. I just cannot understand how any fan cannot see what is happening and swallow's everthing that Doughty says, when he can be bothered, he makes sure his own PR is spot on though..............DOH
posted on 19/10/11
The only point I was trying to make was that one of the main reasons people had for ND to leave NFFC, which was constantly harped on about , ended up being a load of tosh, and these people should man up and admit they were wrong.
This is completely aside from all other points relating to his tenure and other issues people had with him.
I really liked ND, and wish things had turned out differently, but in the end he made some very bad choices and I think he has made the right decision (ironically).
posted on 19/10/11
When you think about it, it was Doughty's decisions that lost him his own money. He might like us to think he is a superhero and great guy leaving his money in, at the moment, but after ten years of failure, I beg to differ.
posted on 19/10/11
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posted on 19/10/11
I agree with Tree's here. Club communication with it's fan's [Martha's job] is bloody awfull that canot be denied.
Martha does as Doughty tells him, why pay Pleat £120,000 pa as a part time consultant. How many times have I read on this forum a supposedly knowledgeable opinion that he was unpaid eh Stretta??
How many millions have been wasted on an over the hill football expert who wasn't really interested in Forest, only Spurs?
The players who joined the club in the last 6 years how many have been successful buys, how many failures ?who bought them, the comtempory manager or Pleat?
Who likes slow midfielders Billy [no] Pleat or McClaren who obviously know nowt about the Championship.
Such an obvious bad move to appoint McClaren and so obviously NOT PLANNED he was sitting in his hotel room having been refused an interview at Aston Villa when who should turn up but the smiling slick opportunity nocks Hughie McArthur. It's just one long well marked trail of COMPLETE INCOMPETANCE.
Who employs the clown = Martha yes Doughnut!
Therefore he must fall on his sword or any other sharp instrument. I just cannot understand how any fan cannot see what is happening and swallow's everthing that Doughty says, when he can be bothered, he makes sure his own PR is spot on though..............DOH
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RFB, spot on mate.
Whichever way you want to say it, after 12 years in charge of a dreadful period of failure in our history, the only actual logical conclusion has to be he has to be forced to sell the club. I'm staggered at his article on the OS that he is just still in complete cloud cuckoo land abotu the appalling state the club's finances are and he just seems to be unable to acknowledge, as the owner, they are your failures when it goes as spectacularly wrong as we have under his tenure.
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