I agree with JPB. Suarez's racism was caught on camera, we could even see exactly what Suarez was saying. But in the Terry case they were only going by what Evra said so no real evidence in my opinion.
ok. wrong about what ? what have i stated that is wrong, and why is it wrong ?
Hitler was provoked into killing lots of Jews by the Jews being Jewish, so can honestly see where JPB is coming from.
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im not talking about evidence of what happened, im talking about what happened or is alleged to have happened.
that's perfectly clear from my posts.
suarex is alleged to have instigated an attack to try to get a player sent off.
terry is alleged to have responded from an attack, propably designed to try to get him sent off.
therefore suarze's bahaviour is akin to ferdinand's and not terry's.
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Hitler was provoked into killing lots of Jews by the Jews being Jewish, so can honestly see where JPB is coming from.
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that's such an ill informed comment and ignorant comment.
jews were killed because hitler hated jews. terry's comment was not made because terry hated black people, it was made because he had been attacked by ferdinand.
do you also really think that someone saying the word "black" can be equated to the murder and persecution of millions of people ?
only in a mind twisted by a very large batch of bad narcotics.
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that;s just an utter futile comment of no argumentative value whatsoever.
you appear to be unable to make any meaningful or sensible response to the point that i have made.
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maybe. what has that got to do with john terry's guilt or innocence, or the similarity between him and suarez though ? absoloutely nothing so far as i can see.
Yeah I agree JPB, if Terry was a racist surely he would respond to this person giving him abuse by referring to that person's colour. Luckily he didn't do that and was respectful of his race.
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"A very nice white man" is how Terry responded if I am not incorrect. Would a racist make a comment like that JPB? I doubt it. So stop calling Terry racist!
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Hippo don't question Forza
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Yeah I agree JPB, if Terry was a racist surely he would respond to this person giving him abuse by referring to that person's colour. Luckily he didn't do that and was respectful of his race.
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because you hide behind sarcasm, it's not actually clear what the point you are trying to make is, other than that you do not agree with some aspect of my point.
you seem to be implying though that terry is racist because he said the word "black" to a black person.
in your previous post you equated thisaction to the holocaust. im not sure whether you are still arguing that saying the word "black" to a black person is similar to the holocaust or not (it clearly has no semblance of a similarity), but i dont see how the use of the word proves that the person is racist.
in fact a court has declared him not guilty even of making a racially abusive remark after days of testimony from witness of fact and expert witnesses. he was not even charged with racism, and it seems to have been widely accepted by the court that he is not racist.
even if saying the word "black" to a black person however meant that someone was racist (which it clearly does not), our discussion wasnt about that. the discussion was about whether terry;s behaviour was distinguishable from suarez's.
it clearly is for the reasons that i have stated.
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Just don't see why you are being so harsh on John Terry JPB, surely if he was racist he would not just swear at his opponent, but would also make specific reference to his colour. And I'm pretty sure he didn't. So your claim that he is racist and was caught on TV being racist, is fatally flawed.
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Hippo I don't remember. You?
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I agree with JPB. Suarez's racism was caught on camera, we could even see exactly what Suarez was saying. But in the Terry case they were only going by what Evra said so no real evidence in my opinion.
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ok. wrong about what ? what have i stated that is wrong, and why is it wrong ?
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Hitler was provoked into killing lots of Jews by the Jews being Jewish, so can honestly see where JPB is coming from.
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im not talking about evidence of what happened, im talking about what happened or is alleged to have happened.
that's perfectly clear from my posts.
suarex is alleged to have instigated an attack to try to get a player sent off.
terry is alleged to have responded from an attack, propably designed to try to get him sent off.
therefore suarze's bahaviour is akin to ferdinand's and not terry's.
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Hitler was provoked into killing lots of Jews by the Jews being Jewish, so can honestly see where JPB is coming from.
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that's such an ill informed comment and ignorant comment.
jews were killed because hitler hated jews. terry's comment was not made because terry hated black people, it was made because he had been attacked by ferdinand.
do you also really think that someone saying the word "black" can be equated to the murder and persecution of millions of people ?
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only in a mind twisted by a very large batch of bad narcotics.
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that;s just an utter futile comment of no argumentative value whatsoever.
you appear to be unable to make any meaningful or sensible response to the point that i have made.
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maybe. what has that got to do with john terry's guilt or innocence, or the similarity between him and suarez though ? absoloutely nothing so far as i can see.
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Yeah I agree JPB, if Terry was a racist surely he would respond to this person giving him abuse by referring to that person's colour. Luckily he didn't do that and was respectful of his race.
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"A very nice white man" is how Terry responded if I am not incorrect. Would a racist make a comment like that JPB? I doubt it. So stop calling Terry racist!
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Hippo don't question Forza
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Yeah I agree JPB, if Terry was a racist surely he would respond to this person giving him abuse by referring to that person's colour. Luckily he didn't do that and was respectful of his race.
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because you hide behind sarcasm, it's not actually clear what the point you are trying to make is, other than that you do not agree with some aspect of my point.
you seem to be implying though that terry is racist because he said the word "black" to a black person.
in your previous post you equated thisaction to the holocaust. im not sure whether you are still arguing that saying the word "black" to a black person is similar to the holocaust or not (it clearly has no semblance of a similarity), but i dont see how the use of the word proves that the person is racist.
in fact a court has declared him not guilty even of making a racially abusive remark after days of testimony from witness of fact and expert witnesses. he was not even charged with racism, and it seems to have been widely accepted by the court that he is not racist.
even if saying the word "black" to a black person however meant that someone was racist (which it clearly does not), our discussion wasnt about that. the discussion was about whether terry;s behaviour was distinguishable from suarez's.
it clearly is for the reasons that i have stated.
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Just don't see why you are being so harsh on John Terry JPB, surely if he was racist he would not just swear at his opponent, but would also make specific reference to his colour. And I'm pretty sure he didn't. So your claim that he is racist and was caught on TV being racist, is fatally flawed.
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Hippo I don't remember. You?
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