desailly (in his prime)
adams
campbell
ferdinand
carvalho
Iwrin has to be in it, simply the best full back the premier league has ever had....on either side, and boy he couldn't half take a free kick! But Adams was the best central defender.
Desailly
Vidic
Stam
Carvalho
Alex
Neville (G)
Irwin
Woodgate
Have all been hugely under-rated as defenders in their relevant EPL eras.
A Cole
Campbell
Carragher
Bruce
Terry
Have all been hugely over-rated respectively
Vidic
Stam
Adams
Rio
Campbell
no particular order...
terry
adams
campbell
carragher
vidic
got to have John Terry in there too...
year upon year of solid defending !!
Sami Hypia was so underrated in my opinion, whenever Liverpool were struggling they would stick Carragher at full back, Sami would come in and sort out the defence and Liverpool (generally) got back on track, top player
Des Walker and Paul McGrath were top quality defenders, although maybe their best was pre-Premiership.
I would say those two, Tony Adams, Marcel Desailly and Rio Ferdinand.
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
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Paul McGrath, great shout there mate, i think he won the player of the year in '92/93, how good could he have been if he'd been able to train and wasn't hungover every saturday?
Stam
A.cole
hyypia
Radebe
Woodgate (in his time at newcastle)
Sami Hypia was so underrated in my opinion, whenever Liverpool were struggling they would stick Carragher at full back, Sami would come in and sort out the defence and Liverpool (generally) got back on track, top player
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when houllier was in charge of liverpool, he had a great record against arsenal and hyypia was one of the reasons why. even though we always outperformed them in terms of league positions, whenever we played liverpool we struggled to even score goals against them because hyypia was unbeatable at the back. and his partnership with henchoz was frighteningly good.
Wing/full backs
A Cole
D Irwin
G Nev
B Sagna
L Dixon ?
CB's
Stam
Ferdinand
Vidic
Adams
Carvalho/ Terry /Cambell possibly Gallas as well...
Did Desially really have his peak in the premeirship ?
Did Desially really have his peak in the premeirship ?
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No, but that doesn't mean he wasn't one of the top 5 defenders in PL history...
Did Desially really have his peak in the premeirship ?
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if what we saw in the premiership counts as decline then i would have hated facing him at his peak.
Well it would be the one that played in the premeirship that we base this on not what he was previously.. In Italy I assume..
Well it would be the one that played in the premeirship that we base this on not what he was previously.. In Italy I assume..
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You misunderstand. Desailly was not at his peak when he came to England but he was still one of the best CBs to have played in the PL.
I think it an opinion held by many.
Your opinion seems very limited to Man Utd and Arsenal players of the last 10 years.
Theres a reason why they won so much.... and looking back over the lists his name is certainly not universal in them...
Looking back at the lists you see a lot of people with very limited range.
Unless I am much mistaken the Premier League started in 93, not 2003 as the lists in the main seem to suggest.
When I said it is an opinion held by many I was referring to those outside JA606 as much as the posters on here.
He maybe won't be in every ones top 5, but to suggest, as you seem to be, that he was over the hill and poor in the Premier League, is very much mistaken.
If we're counting "the best defenders ever to play in the Premiership" then you're gonna have to put Larry White in. He was bobbins when he came to United, but before then... what a player!
Colin Hendry, Jaap Stam, Tony Adams, Sol Campbell, Ryan Nelsen
DJeezus all I asked was "was he at his peak when he came to the premeirship" which just sugtgests he wasn't. I was by no means calling him rubbish if anything I was hinting that Desially at his peak was a possible entry on the list...
Ohh and in fairness over time the Premeirship has got alot better that is why later players could feature more often...
For example Pallister and Bruce. Both great defenders for United but the ones who came after like Stam, Vidic and Rio are better...
Hendry is a good shout...
Actually, swap Nelsen for Desailly. It's a close call but Desailly was slightly better.
It was more your
...in your opinion...
comment that suggested I was completely wrong when I said "Desailly...he was still one of the best CBs to have played in the PL."
And yes, the Premier League has got better, but you judge players on when they played. Paul McGrath, I think, is one of only two defenders to have won the PFAs Players Player of the Year award in PL history, and as such certainly deserves a mention on that alone , even if you are not as old as me and cannot remember his excellence.
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posted on 28/10/11
desailly (in his prime)
adams
campbell
ferdinand
carvalho
posted on 28/10/11
Iwrin has to be in it, simply the best full back the premier league has ever had....on either side, and boy he couldn't half take a free kick! But Adams was the best central defender.
posted on 28/10/11
Desailly
Vidic
Stam
Carvalho
Alex
Neville (G)
Irwin
Woodgate
Have all been hugely under-rated as defenders in their relevant EPL eras.
A Cole
Campbell
Carragher
Bruce
Terry
Have all been hugely over-rated respectively
posted on 28/10/11
Vidic
Stam
Adams
Rio
Campbell
posted on 28/10/11
no particular order...
terry
adams
campbell
carragher
vidic
posted on 28/10/11
got to have John Terry in there too...
year upon year of solid defending !!
posted on 28/10/11
Sami Hypia was so underrated in my opinion, whenever Liverpool were struggling they would stick Carragher at full back, Sami would come in and sort out the defence and Liverpool (generally) got back on track, top player
posted on 28/10/11
Des Walker and Paul McGrath were top quality defenders, although maybe their best was pre-Premiership.
I would say those two, Tony Adams, Marcel Desailly and Rio Ferdinand.
posted on 28/10/11
D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
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Paul McGrath, great shout there mate, i think he won the player of the year in '92/93, how good could he have been if he'd been able to train and wasn't hungover every saturday?
posted on 28/10/11
Stam
A.cole
hyypia
Radebe
Woodgate (in his time at newcastle)
posted on 28/10/11
Sami Hypia was so underrated in my opinion, whenever Liverpool were struggling they would stick Carragher at full back, Sami would come in and sort out the defence and Liverpool (generally) got back on track, top player
==========
when houllier was in charge of liverpool, he had a great record against arsenal and hyypia was one of the reasons why. even though we always outperformed them in terms of league positions, whenever we played liverpool we struggled to even score goals against them because hyypia was unbeatable at the back. and his partnership with henchoz was frighteningly good.
posted on 28/10/11
Wing/full backs
A Cole
D Irwin
G Nev
B Sagna
L Dixon ?
CB's
Stam
Ferdinand
Vidic
Adams
Carvalho/ Terry /Cambell possibly Gallas as well...
Did Desially really have his peak in the premeirship ?
posted on 28/10/11
Did Desially really have his peak in the premeirship ?
========
No, but that doesn't mean he wasn't one of the top 5 defenders in PL history...
posted on 28/10/11
Did Desially really have his peak in the premeirship ?
==========
if what we saw in the premiership counts as decline then i would have hated facing him at his peak.
posted on 28/10/11
Well it would be the one that played in the premeirship that we base this on not what he was previously.. In Italy I assume..
posted on 28/10/11
Well it would be the one that played in the premeirship that we base this on not what he was previously.. In Italy I assume..
===========
You misunderstand. Desailly was not at his peak when he came to England but he was still one of the best CBs to have played in the PL.
posted on 28/10/11
....In your opinion...
posted on 28/10/11
I think it an opinion held by many.
Your opinion seems very limited to Man Utd and Arsenal players of the last 10 years.
posted on 28/10/11
Theres a reason why they won so much.... and looking back over the lists his name is certainly not universal in them...
posted on 28/10/11
Looking back at the lists you see a lot of people with very limited range.
Unless I am much mistaken the Premier League started in 93, not 2003 as the lists in the main seem to suggest.
When I said it is an opinion held by many I was referring to those outside JA606 as much as the posters on here.
He maybe won't be in every ones top 5, but to suggest, as you seem to be, that he was over the hill and poor in the Premier League, is very much mistaken.
posted on 28/10/11
If we're counting "the best defenders ever to play in the Premiership" then you're gonna have to put Larry White in. He was bobbins when he came to United, but before then... what a player!
posted on 28/10/11
Colin Hendry, Jaap Stam, Tony Adams, Sol Campbell, Ryan Nelsen
posted on 28/10/11
DJeezus all I asked was "was he at his peak when he came to the premeirship" which just sugtgests he wasn't. I was by no means calling him rubbish if anything I was hinting that Desially at his peak was a possible entry on the list...
Ohh and in fairness over time the Premeirship has got alot better that is why later players could feature more often...
For example Pallister and Bruce. Both great defenders for United but the ones who came after like Stam, Vidic and Rio are better...
Hendry is a good shout...
posted on 28/10/11
Actually, swap Nelsen for Desailly. It's a close call but Desailly was slightly better.
posted on 28/10/11
It was more your
...in your opinion...
comment that suggested I was completely wrong when I said "Desailly...he was still one of the best CBs to have played in the PL."
And yes, the Premier League has got better, but you judge players on when they played. Paul McGrath, I think, is one of only two defenders to have won the PFAs Players Player of the Year award in PL history, and as such certainly deserves a mention on that alone , even if you are not as old as me and cannot remember his excellence.
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