Liverpool fans clutching at stolen straws
I would 8 to be Suarez right now.
What Evra do you mean?
Fisher that is a damned hard question to answer
Liverpool fans comments on here tonight.
Just been reminded why I hate them.
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The new statement. Rafa tried playing mind games against Fergie and was always going to lose. But the statement defending a cheating, diving racist cannibal takes it to another level
Nwo stop spamming multiple threads with your joke.
comment by Hippo on Toast (mufc) (U1301)
posted 57 seconds ago
the statement is the most pathetic thing in the history of english football
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actually its man utd
voice
"It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist."
This is from the Liverpool statement.
Now, if you are going to accept the FA verdict that in their opinion Suarez was being racially abusive then fine....but you must also then accept that they themselves, and Evra, have stated that he is not a racist!
So, what is it? You believe their verdict but don't believe their statement that he is not racist? Can you have it both ways?
OK, I'll bite, he's not a racist but used racist abuse to provoke a reaction from a fellow professional. Happy now, BB?
armadillo
Not happy to be honest, it is a shame that people just throw these remarks around without thinking!
Billy, he wasn't charged or being a racist but charged for using racially abusive language. With your multiple posts on the matter as well as belittling Evra and taking cheap shots at him , Utd and Utd fans, will you now apologise??
''I do hope the club appeal and report Evra. .''
rue colours
by terentius1 (U1863) 20 December 2011
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I expect you thought this article would be a statement of how Luis Suarez has been found out, well its not. The 'true colours' refers to the horrible, bitter idiots on here who have been desperate for this moment for ages. The bile you're coming out with is worse than anything Suarez is alleged to have said.
I'm astounded the FA have taken the word of only Evra, another vile man who is a puppet of Ferguson, who saw an opportunity to get at Liverpool and led Evra to the ref's room.
I don't care what any of you say, i think i'll take Liverpool Football Clubs word over anything that comes from the corrupt minds of Evra/Fergie. Read the statement, do you honestly think the club would use such strong wording if they had ANY doubt over Saurez's innocence :-
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Billybob, what are your thoughts on LFC fans like this? It's not just him either, if you look around you'll find many posts from LFC fans saying how they are proud to be a red tonight, which frankly I would find embarrassing.
Now I for one know he's not 'a racist', anyone calling him that does not know their definitions.
However he has thrown racial abuse at Evra, and the FA feels there is sufficient proof of this.
So what are your thoughts on Suarez? Will you be fine with him to serve out his ban and then move on? Do you think the punishment isn't fair? Or do you feel he is not fit to wear the shirt?
daredevil
Why should I apologise? I have my opinion, you have your own opinion, the panel in this case have their own opinion.
Who is right here? Is the verdict 100% proof that Suarez was being racially abusive? No, it's not, it is just their opinion.
Until I see the evidence then it is just speculation on my behalf. However, Liverpool have said that they think he is innocent, do you see an apology from them for insisting that he was innocent throughout this? Nope!
Did you expect, or think it would be right, that all the United fans who suggested that Rooney was wrongfully charged with swearing to apologise after the guilty verdict?
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Sirbubbly
I don't agree with the sentiments, however, I can understand fans backing their player.
My thoughts on Suarez are that if the club do not feel they can win an appeal then he should do the time and try to move on. The punishment is fair imo IF he did it...I would however (if it is true) like to see the FA charge Evra with using insulting language, just for balance!
BiilyBob - Is what Evra called Suarez racist in any way? What did he call him?
Elvis
I don't know what he said, according to the Liverpool statement which referred to certain things that happened at the hearing "he (Evra) admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult."
I've read the statement. But there is no suggestion that what Evra said could be seen as racist. So why should he be charged too?
Elvis
Sorry, I forgot to say that it doesn't matter whether it was racist or not, Suarez was charged with insulting Evra, as per the wording of their charge...
"Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra during the match contrary to FA Rule E3(1);"
Billy, you still haven't apologised for the put downs and character assasinations of a victim of racial abuse.
Now you want Evra punished or using insulting language on the pitch. Wyy stop there? Let's ban everyone who swears on the pitch including refs.
There is a difference between an insult and racial abuse. That's why Suarez was given the ban. It's not rocket science
comment by BillyBobTaunton (U4886)
posted 13 seconds ago
Elvis
Sorry, I forgot to say that it doesn't matter whether it was racist or not, Suarez was charged with insulting Evra, as per the wording of their charge...
"Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra during the match contrary to FA Rule E3(1);"
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You mean like how Rooney was charged for swearing on the pitch? Did you feel at the time that Kenny should have also been charged for swearing on camera?
Billy you are being disingenuous. That is not the entire charge
The Independent Regulatory Commission announced its decision on 20 December 2011, which is as follows:
Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra during the match contrary to FA Rule E3(1);
the insulting words used by Mr Suarez included a reference to Mr Evra's colour within the meaning of Rule E3(2);
Mr Suarez shall be warned as to his future conduct, be suspended for eight matches covering all first team competitive matches and fined the sum of £40,000;
the [penalty] is suspended pending the outcome of any appeal lodged by Mr Suarez against this decision.
The Independent Regulatory Commission will provide written reasons for its decision in due course setting out:
(a) the findings of fact made by it;
(b) the reasons for its decision finding the charge proved; and
(c) the reasons for the penalty.
Mr Suarez has the right to appeal the decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission to an Appeal Board. An appeal must be lodged within 14 days of the date of the written reasons for the decision.
The penalty is suspended until after the outcome of any appeal, or the time for appealing expires, or should Mr Suarez decide not to appeal. The reason for this is to ensure that the penalty does not take effect before any appeal so that Mr Suarez has an effective right of appeal.
daredevil
Why do you keep going on about an apology?
I have my opinion, I still do, until I see the evidence then that will not change.
Oh, and you are right about there being a difference, having said that the FA charged Suarez with both things from what I can see. Using abusive and insulting language contrary to FA rules....and being abusive whilst referring to ethnic origin and colour.
So there is a difference according to the FA and from what I interpret, you can be charged with using abusive and insulting language in isolation.
I feel that if Evra has used abusive and insulting language then the FA should investigate it, isn't that fair? Or is it only fair that Suarez gets done for insulting and abusing someone?
I feel that if Evra has used abusive and insulting language then the FA should investigate it, isn't that fair? Or is it only fair that Suarez gets done for insulting and abusing someone?
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Is it fair that only Rooney was charged for swearing on the pitch/camera?
Elvis
I feel that each case should be looked at individually, Rooney's and Dalglish's case were different imo.
Didn't Fergie swear in an interview both just before and just after Rooney's incident? I'm sure he did, yet he wasn't charged...probably because each case is taken on its own merits, I guess!
As should this case...
comment by BillyBobTaunton (U4886)
posted 3 minutes ago
Elvis
I feel that each case should be looked at individually, Rooney's and Dalglish's case were different imo.
Didn't Fergie swear in an interview both just before and just after Rooney's incident? I'm sure he did, yet he wasn't charged...probably because each case is taken on its own merits, I guess!
As should this case...
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Unless it involves Evra I presume? Otherwise why do u feel the FA should investigate the abuse he aimed at Evra, even though there is no suggestion it was racist?
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posted on 20/12/11
Liverpool fans clutching at stolen straws
posted on 20/12/11
I would 8 to be Suarez right now.
What Evra do you mean?
Fisher that is a damned hard question to answer
posted on 20/12/11
Liverpool fans comments on here tonight.
Just been reminded why I hate them.
posted on 20/12/11
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posted on 20/12/11
The new statement. Rafa tried playing mind games against Fergie and was always going to lose. But the statement defending a cheating, diving racist cannibal takes it to another level
posted on 20/12/11
Nwo stop spamming multiple threads with your joke.
posted on 20/12/11
comment by Hippo on Toast (mufc) (U1301)
posted 57 seconds ago
the statement is the most pathetic thing in the history of english football
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actually its man utd
posted on 20/12/11
voice
"It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist."
This is from the Liverpool statement.
Now, if you are going to accept the FA verdict that in their opinion Suarez was being racially abusive then fine....but you must also then accept that they themselves, and Evra, have stated that he is not a racist!
So, what is it? You believe their verdict but don't believe their statement that he is not racist? Can you have it both ways?
posted on 20/12/11
OK, I'll bite, he's not a racist but used racist abuse to provoke a reaction from a fellow professional. Happy now, BB?
posted on 20/12/11
armadillo
Not happy to be honest, it is a shame that people just throw these remarks around without thinking!
posted on 20/12/11
Billy, he wasn't charged or being a racist but charged for using racially abusive language. With your multiple posts on the matter as well as belittling Evra and taking cheap shots at him , Utd and Utd fans, will you now apologise??
posted on 20/12/11
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posted on 20/12/11
''I do hope the club appeal and report Evra. .''
rue colours
by terentius1 (U1863) 20 December 2011
COMMENT ON THIS ARTICLE
I expect you thought this article would be a statement of how Luis Suarez has been found out, well its not. The 'true colours' refers to the horrible, bitter idiots on here who have been desperate for this moment for ages. The bile you're coming out with is worse than anything Suarez is alleged to have said.
I'm astounded the FA have taken the word of only Evra, another vile man who is a puppet of Ferguson, who saw an opportunity to get at Liverpool and led Evra to the ref's room.
I don't care what any of you say, i think i'll take Liverpool Football Clubs word over anything that comes from the corrupt minds of Evra/Fergie. Read the statement, do you honestly think the club would use such strong wording if they had ANY doubt over Saurez's innocence :-
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Billybob, what are your thoughts on LFC fans like this? It's not just him either, if you look around you'll find many posts from LFC fans saying how they are proud to be a red tonight, which frankly I would find embarrassing.
Now I for one know he's not 'a racist', anyone calling him that does not know their definitions.
However he has thrown racial abuse at Evra, and the FA feels there is sufficient proof of this.
So what are your thoughts on Suarez? Will you be fine with him to serve out his ban and then move on? Do you think the punishment isn't fair? Or do you feel he is not fit to wear the shirt?
posted on 20/12/11
daredevil
Why should I apologise? I have my opinion, you have your own opinion, the panel in this case have their own opinion.
Who is right here? Is the verdict 100% proof that Suarez was being racially abusive? No, it's not, it is just their opinion.
Until I see the evidence then it is just speculation on my behalf. However, Liverpool have said that they think he is innocent, do you see an apology from them for insisting that he was innocent throughout this? Nope!
Did you expect, or think it would be right, that all the United fans who suggested that Rooney was wrongfully charged with swearing to apologise after the guilty verdict?
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Sirbubbly
I don't agree with the sentiments, however, I can understand fans backing their player.
My thoughts on Suarez are that if the club do not feel they can win an appeal then he should do the time and try to move on. The punishment is fair imo IF he did it...I would however (if it is true) like to see the FA charge Evra with using insulting language, just for balance!
posted on 20/12/11
BiilyBob - Is what Evra called Suarez racist in any way? What did he call him?
posted on 20/12/11
Elvis
I don't know what he said, according to the Liverpool statement which referred to certain things that happened at the hearing "he (Evra) admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult."
posted on 20/12/11
I've read the statement. But there is no suggestion that what Evra said could be seen as racist. So why should he be charged too?
posted on 20/12/11
Elvis
Sorry, I forgot to say that it doesn't matter whether it was racist or not, Suarez was charged with insulting Evra, as per the wording of their charge...
"Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra during the match contrary to FA Rule E3(1);"
posted on 20/12/11
Billy, you still haven't apologised for the put downs and character assasinations of a victim of racial abuse.
Now you want Evra punished or using insulting language on the pitch. Wyy stop there? Let's ban everyone who swears on the pitch including refs.
There is a difference between an insult and racial abuse. That's why Suarez was given the ban. It's not rocket science
posted on 20/12/11
comment by BillyBobTaunton (U4886)
posted 13 seconds ago
Elvis
Sorry, I forgot to say that it doesn't matter whether it was racist or not, Suarez was charged with insulting Evra, as per the wording of their charge...
"Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra during the match contrary to FA Rule E3(1);"
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You mean like how Rooney was charged for swearing on the pitch? Did you feel at the time that Kenny should have also been charged for swearing on camera?
posted on 20/12/11
Billy you are being disingenuous. That is not the entire charge
The Independent Regulatory Commission announced its decision on 20 December 2011, which is as follows:
Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra during the match contrary to FA Rule E3(1);
the insulting words used by Mr Suarez included a reference to Mr Evra's colour within the meaning of Rule E3(2);
Mr Suarez shall be warned as to his future conduct, be suspended for eight matches covering all first team competitive matches and fined the sum of £40,000;
the [penalty] is suspended pending the outcome of any appeal lodged by Mr Suarez against this decision.
The Independent Regulatory Commission will provide written reasons for its decision in due course setting out:
(a) the findings of fact made by it;
(b) the reasons for its decision finding the charge proved; and
(c) the reasons for the penalty.
Mr Suarez has the right to appeal the decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission to an Appeal Board. An appeal must be lodged within 14 days of the date of the written reasons for the decision.
The penalty is suspended until after the outcome of any appeal, or the time for appealing expires, or should Mr Suarez decide not to appeal. The reason for this is to ensure that the penalty does not take effect before any appeal so that Mr Suarez has an effective right of appeal.
posted on 20/12/11
daredevil
Why do you keep going on about an apology?
I have my opinion, I still do, until I see the evidence then that will not change.
Oh, and you are right about there being a difference, having said that the FA charged Suarez with both things from what I can see. Using abusive and insulting language contrary to FA rules....and being abusive whilst referring to ethnic origin and colour.
So there is a difference according to the FA and from what I interpret, you can be charged with using abusive and insulting language in isolation.
I feel that if Evra has used abusive and insulting language then the FA should investigate it, isn't that fair? Or is it only fair that Suarez gets done for insulting and abusing someone?
posted on 20/12/11
I feel that if Evra has used abusive and insulting language then the FA should investigate it, isn't that fair? Or is it only fair that Suarez gets done for insulting and abusing someone?
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Is it fair that only Rooney was charged for swearing on the pitch/camera?
posted on 20/12/11
Elvis
I feel that each case should be looked at individually, Rooney's and Dalglish's case were different imo.
Didn't Fergie swear in an interview both just before and just after Rooney's incident? I'm sure he did, yet he wasn't charged...probably because each case is taken on its own merits, I guess!
As should this case...
posted on 20/12/11
comment by BillyBobTaunton (U4886)
posted 3 minutes ago
Elvis
I feel that each case should be looked at individually, Rooney's and Dalglish's case were different imo.
Didn't Fergie swear in an interview both just before and just after Rooney's incident? I'm sure he did, yet he wasn't charged...probably because each case is taken on its own merits, I guess!
As should this case...
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Unless it involves Evra I presume? Otherwise why do u feel the FA should investigate the abuse he aimed at Evra, even though there is no suggestion it was racist?
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