To be honest I want to see Blakeman Play LB before we go sign a new one as if he can do a job their then we are sorted. I also think we need a striker as SKD is not cutting it any more which is a shame, Blake is Blake and Klasnic is also getting on a bit.
I fully expect to see Ricketts in vs Wolves. He'll have another ressie game this week, I think and then Coyle will chuck him in. Probably instead of Robbo. I also expect to see Steinsson at right back. Boyata is rubbish and disinterested.
In all honesty, we weren't that bad yesterday. I think we could've got a point until Coyle made that change.
We were better when we played a higher line. Although N'Gog didn't win much in the air, we were able to get the second ball and play from there. I would keep the same team vs Wolves but play Rockets and Steinsson for Robbo and Boyata.
Special mention for Petrov again. Thought he has had 2 good games since returning for the Blackburn game.
This is a new stance from Coyle..
The team where holding firm til the substitution.. Robinson, Boyata, Knight and Cahill where keeping a clean sheet with the wonderful protection of Muamba and NRC..
To go forth and win the game he had 4 other players to mix about and change the focus of attack...
Worse case a point... Get something from Wolves and it's 3 unbeaten and something to build on...
But no..........
And the rest is history... So now to come out and blame the players is frankly passing the buck..
Owen, I saluted you on Tuesday with a brave line up against Blackburn which paid off.. At least have the self respect to accept the criticism, when the gamble fails..
Only seen highlights cos I was in work.. But can't help but feel neither Boyata nor Robinson are doing anywhere near enough to stop either cross.
In addition, Knight should have done more to stop Ba goal before it reached him and Davies should have kept tight to Ben Arfa. I fully expect Coyle to still be in job in January and I fully expect 2 new defenders and a full back.
HH, Eagles gave the ball away for the first, running down a blind alley and losing it. Then not following his man back. Boyata had to. efend a 2 vs 1 and had no chance of stopping the cross. Mavies might not have tracked back very well, but that isn't his game. Muamba on the other hand...
Same with Robbo. Gave the ball away, Petrov had got back, made a tackle, got up, made a run forward and then Robbo lost it. Obertan was already behind him, got him back peddling and couldn't get in the way of the cross.
Not Knights fault at all, he had to try to mark Ben Arfa. Ba made a clever run behind and then in front of Cahill. Good strikers will always score from that position, and Ba is a good striker.
This is a new stance from Coyle..
The team where holding firm til the substitution.. Robinson, Boyata, Knight and Cahill where keeping a clean sheet with the wonderful protection of Muamba and NRC..
To go forth and win the game he had 4 other players to mix about and change the focus of attack...
Worse case a point... Get something from Wolves and it's 3 unbeaten and something to build on...
But no..........
And the rest is history... So now to come out and blame the players is frankly passing the buck..
Owen, I saluted you on Tuesday with a brave line up against Blackburn which paid off.. At least have the self respect to accept the criticism, when the gamble fails..
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Boom! Couldn't have put it better myself. Have a brownie point for that sir.
Im still of the opinion that asking our defence to not concede for 30+ mins is asking a lot. Also I did not see us creating much down the other end as Klasnic and N'Gog looked isolated at times and at others outnumbered.
Now I will admit I could only watch the first half in full and only got glimpses of the second but unless we had some outlet beyond a long punt and could really worry Newcastle we were always at risk of conceding.
“It leaves a bad taste but it’s got to the point where the same people are not going to make the same mistakes," he said.
************
I hope he was facing a mirror when he came out with that one ......
I've been saying for ages - indeed many of us have - that the players have been letting Coyle down.
Reading the match thread from yesterday a number of posters pointed out that the game was fairly even and that individual mistakes and an unwise substitution cost is the two goals.
So now that Coyle has pointed out that certain players are consistently letting him and us down - which is true - people are jumping on him for pointing this out. Which seems unfair.
I think people are united in believing the substitution was the key moment which lead to a change in system and then bad defending..
He can't waffle on about players mistakes without clearly putting his hand up to what everyone at the Reebok saw..
Taking us for fools..
Manager given two years ... club not really any further forward ... in bottom three, confidence evaporating ... substitution gamble backfires in Christmas holiday period match ... final straw.
There would be a certain symmetry to it wouldn't there?
The buck stops at the manager. End of.
In 1940, when we were takin' a pounding from ' the opposition ' and all looked to be lost ...did we blame the troops? Or the Prime Minister, who ran the show?
Goodbye Neville Coyle ...Hello Winston Whoever
I'm getting really bored of his ramblings, so much so that I didn;t read all of it.
He's alienating so many players so cover up his own faults just to save his job.
The vicous circle has started.
Fans aren't that stupid that they don't know what really went wrong.
He's starting to sound like Steve Kean now, "Im brilliant, it's just that my players are crap!".
No Bricks.... He is sounding like Megson..
He's imitatin' Megson AS WELL AS Sammy Lee?
It's even worse than I thought .........
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posted on 27/12/11
To be honest I want to see Blakeman Play LB before we go sign a new one as if he can do a job their then we are sorted. I also think we need a striker as SKD is not cutting it any more which is a shame, Blake is Blake and Klasnic is also getting on a bit.
posted on 27/12/11
I fully expect to see Ricketts in vs Wolves. He'll have another ressie game this week, I think and then Coyle will chuck him in. Probably instead of Robbo. I also expect to see Steinsson at right back. Boyata is rubbish and disinterested.
In all honesty, we weren't that bad yesterday. I think we could've got a point until Coyle made that change.
We were better when we played a higher line. Although N'Gog didn't win much in the air, we were able to get the second ball and play from there. I would keep the same team vs Wolves but play Rockets and Steinsson for Robbo and Boyata.
Special mention for Petrov again. Thought he has had 2 good games since returning for the Blackburn game.
posted on 27/12/11
*ricketts
posted on 27/12/11
This is a new stance from Coyle..
The team where holding firm til the substitution.. Robinson, Boyata, Knight and Cahill where keeping a clean sheet with the wonderful protection of Muamba and NRC..
To go forth and win the game he had 4 other players to mix about and change the focus of attack...
Worse case a point... Get something from Wolves and it's 3 unbeaten and something to build on...
But no..........
And the rest is history... So now to come out and blame the players is frankly passing the buck..
Owen, I saluted you on Tuesday with a brave line up against Blackburn which paid off.. At least have the self respect to accept the criticism, when the gamble fails..
posted on 27/12/11
Only seen highlights cos I was in work.. But can't help but feel neither Boyata nor Robinson are doing anywhere near enough to stop either cross.
In addition, Knight should have done more to stop Ba goal before it reached him and Davies should have kept tight to Ben Arfa. I fully expect Coyle to still be in job in January and I fully expect 2 new defenders and a full back.
posted on 27/12/11
HH, Eagles gave the ball away for the first, running down a blind alley and losing it. Then not following his man back. Boyata had to. efend a 2 vs 1 and had no chance of stopping the cross. Mavies might not have tracked back very well, but that isn't his game. Muamba on the other hand...
Same with Robbo. Gave the ball away, Petrov had got back, made a tackle, got up, made a run forward and then Robbo lost it. Obertan was already behind him, got him back peddling and couldn't get in the way of the cross.
Not Knights fault at all, he had to try to mark Ben Arfa. Ba made a clever run behind and then in front of Cahill. Good strikers will always score from that position, and Ba is a good striker.
posted on 27/12/11
This is a new stance from Coyle..
The team where holding firm til the substitution.. Robinson, Boyata, Knight and Cahill where keeping a clean sheet with the wonderful protection of Muamba and NRC..
To go forth and win the game he had 4 other players to mix about and change the focus of attack...
Worse case a point... Get something from Wolves and it's 3 unbeaten and something to build on...
But no..........
And the rest is history... So now to come out and blame the players is frankly passing the buck..
Owen, I saluted you on Tuesday with a brave line up against Blackburn which paid off.. At least have the self respect to accept the criticism, when the gamble fails..
-----------------------
Boom! Couldn't have put it better myself. Have a brownie point for that sir.
posted on 27/12/11
Im still of the opinion that asking our defence to not concede for 30+ mins is asking a lot. Also I did not see us creating much down the other end as Klasnic and N'Gog looked isolated at times and at others outnumbered.
Now I will admit I could only watch the first half in full and only got glimpses of the second but unless we had some outlet beyond a long punt and could really worry Newcastle we were always at risk of conceding.
posted on 27/12/11
“It leaves a bad taste but it’s got to the point where the same people are not going to make the same mistakes," he said.
************
I hope he was facing a mirror when he came out with that one ......
posted on 27/12/11
I've been saying for ages - indeed many of us have - that the players have been letting Coyle down.
Reading the match thread from yesterday a number of posters pointed out that the game was fairly even and that individual mistakes and an unwise substitution cost is the two goals.
So now that Coyle has pointed out that certain players are consistently letting him and us down - which is true - people are jumping on him for pointing this out. Which seems unfair.
posted on 27/12/11
I think people are united in believing the substitution was the key moment which lead to a change in system and then bad defending..
He can't waffle on about players mistakes without clearly putting his hand up to what everyone at the Reebok saw..
Taking us for fools..
posted on 27/12/11
Manager given two years ... club not really any further forward ... in bottom three, confidence evaporating ... substitution gamble backfires in Christmas holiday period match ... final straw.
There would be a certain symmetry to it wouldn't there?
posted on 27/12/11
The buck stops at the manager. End of.
In 1940, when we were takin' a pounding from ' the opposition ' and all looked to be lost ...did we blame the troops? Or the Prime Minister, who ran the show?
Goodbye Neville Coyle ...Hello Winston Whoever
posted on 27/12/11
I'm getting really bored of his ramblings, so much so that I didn;t read all of it.
He's alienating so many players so cover up his own faults just to save his job.
The vicous circle has started.
Fans aren't that stupid that they don't know what really went wrong.
He's starting to sound like Steve Kean now, "Im brilliant, it's just that my players are crap!".
posted on 27/12/11
No Bricks.... He is sounding like Megson..
posted on 27/12/11
He's imitatin' Megson AS WELL AS Sammy Lee?
It's even worse than I thought .........
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