Moses your a WUM end of story you don't even attend matches.

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And? plenty on here don't, I don't because I am currently at Hull at Uni, I simply can't afford to go to matches ATM.

In the past, I have had a number of season tickets, and get to as many games as I can possibly afford ....

Why is it that some people on here think Wolves and Newcastle are the same team and that every match is the same. Both points are wrong and you can therefore not compare the two games as easily as you think you can.

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I agree that not every match is the same but there are strong similarities between the too games that make them worth comparing at least in my eyes.

"Laughing Boy - did you think Coyle was "tactically useless" this time last year? Was our league position then just by chance?."

No I didn't.

I do now.

That ok?

Another set of selective cut and paste from Mallorca!!!

Now that is priceless!!

Thanks god I understand the game and don't need to lower myself to your inane ramblings.

There are 4 WUMS on our board and myself and Moses aren't in the group.

Can't wait till May. BWFC Forever, Mallorca, Coma and the rest of the flock will be conspicuous by their absence!!!

CEF

Whatever happens fella, I'll have a pair big enough to front up on here with you..

I was arguing with Petrov and Rebel months ago. I have the ability to change my mind.

"Thanks god I understand the game and don't need to lower myself to your inane ramblings."

Are you 12?

"If you don't think Coyle is good enough and should go I can understand that and even to some degree agree with you but at least be consistent on why he is not good enough beyond general comments like Tactically Clueless, tell me why he is tactically clueless and why a player who a few weeks ago was worthless should now play?."

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I'm sorry Hopefull but I'm amazed you ask that question.. Week on week questions have been raised about team line up, subs, comments make.. I'm not going to collate 19 matches of articles, because they are there...

I'm totally amazed I'm asked to justify why I think he's tactically useless..

I'd love you to find my anti Eagles rant though..

Please put a link to it..


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Firstly I never Claimed that you in particular were saying or had said Eagles was rubbish but it is an opinion that has been very prevalent of late and yours was the last comment at the time to mention him saying he should be played.

As for my asking you people to tell me why You/anyone who wants Coyle gone to tell me why is because for the last 19 matches the reasons have been inconsistent or Flawed. For the first 8 or so games the vast majority on here accepted our position got a bit peeved at Norwich game but other than that no issues bar a select few.

However A lot of the comments have been either player a should play but player a was injured so could not play or like we have now saying we should be attacking at home when we are drawing after saying the exact opposite the game before also at home. got to go out now be back in a bit to carry on.

"There are 4 WUMS on our board and myself and Moses aren't in the group."

Moses, having read your views on being called a WUM, what's your views on CEF calling me one?

Is he out of order?

No Mallorca. That is impossible if you read my profile.

I know you will front up, but BWFC Forever has been bang out of order on this thread.

He wasn't even born when I was standing at Roots Hall on Boxing day, at Exeter on a wet Tuesday night, etc.

I could go on all night, but he prob doesn't even know teams exist outside the Prem.

WUM indeed!!!!

Where did I call you a WUM Mallorca. Quote it exactly - go on dare you!!!!

on the positive side.as mallorca said we scored 5 goals against o.k.a poor stoke side but better than wolves,should we not go tinkering around with the team every week and play a settled team with klasnic & eagles up front for a few matches they can and do score goals,klasnic's goals have dried up but i think he as played deeper trying to link things up more,one thing we all want is to get out of the position we are in, thats got to be the aim and in the first half today we did play well and n'gog is creative,if we can get a goalscorer from somewere with a bit more pace than klasnic,if not maybe eagles & n'gog at least we would hav pace

Hopeful

I can look to substitutions, line ups, and league tables to convince me I'm on the right track to thinking I'm right in opinion..

What amazes me are people like Moses and CEF who tell me (CEF) I'll disappear in May due to Coyle changing it about and us staying up. Would it not be better asking those people HOW THEY come to their believes!!!!???

The league table suggests we are going down. We've been here 10 years and seen clubs in this position. They don't get out of it.

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Where did I call you a WUM Mallorca. Quote it exactly - go on dare you!!!!"

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"There are 4 WUMS on our board and myself and Moses aren't in the group."

Ok, name them...

Moses is it right CEF calls anyone a WUM?

It's fine Laughing Boy - but seriously, in my opinion, a manager does not become "tactically useless" one season after doing well the season before in the same league. There are very fine margins in football. If someone had got on the end of one of Petrov's crosses today we wouldn't be bottom of the league. Sacking managers every 18 months is a recipe for disaster. We need stability, not a mangerial merry-go-round. You don't suddenly become a bad manager over night.

As for today, Coyle was right to make changes at right and left back, and he was right to take Klasnic off.

I think we will struggle to avoid relegation - but sacking Coyle will not help our position one bit.

Thanks for clearing that up Mallorca. Knew I hadn't called you a WUM.

Off out now, so again. Happy New Year.

I look forward to 2012 and particularly the 2012-13 season as we kick-off another Premiership Campaign.

Keep the faith guys. All is rosy in the Garden!!!!

"I think we will struggle to avoid relegation - but sacking Coyle will not help our position one bit."

That's the issue Billy, I think a new man would..

Roy Hodgson transformed WBA last year... Replacing a new up and coming manager who liked to try and play it a bit, but didn't organise his defence...

Hmmmm

All the best CEF

I'll assume you're naming the 4 WUMS on 606 tomorrow?

That was a very childish comment directed my way.

I can appreciate many feel that Coyle I all to blame for our troubles.

My own honest opinion is that the injuries have played a huge part. My gripe is with the players on the pitch, it's clear there are some who don't care what happens either way.

Not for one second am I proposing that I will join your hypothetical Owen Coyle is god club, ironically that's what many people were saying about him this time last year before injuries built up. But I am in fact suggesting a 'the players need to buck their ideas up club'.

I myself have said when I think Coyle has done something wrong, when it comes to subs etc or team selections.

Now thr comment comes on the back of me asking how you can criticise for being too attacking one game and not enough in the next. I fell Coyle is being criticised no matter what he does, when there are some players who are getting off lightly.

Look at how much better we defended as a unit with Ticketts than with Robbo? The better players we can choose from the better we can play.

Now I may believe Coyle should stay.. But if Holdeb an Lee etc had been available and we weren't playing Robbo etc.. Then I too would be saying Coyle should go if we were in the same position.

The fact of the matter is, you think Coyle is at fault, I think the players are mainly. Most probably it's actually abit of both, but one things for certain... Coyle isn't going anywhere, but we have a January to bring in new players and hopefully improve it where it's weakest.

"That was a very childish comment directed my way."

Who you talking to??

The one from BWFC Forever. Had a strop because I said Henessey kept wolves in the game and that it's hypocritical to criticise Coyle for everything when the opposite was said the week before.

I liked to think I'm a balanced poster.. Wasn't saying Coyle was mint, just questioning why he could be criticised for trying to win in one game and taking off an ineffective player in Klasnic in the second?

LMB wrote:

"I'm frankly bored of the excuses for Coyle on here now..

Though Moses is making me laugh with his desperate ones.."

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Don't read them then. I don't see why you've gone out of the way to post a comment to say you are bored with reading. You haven't offered your view of anything to do with football.

And you've also adopted the condescending mindset of someone who thinks that anyone who disagrees with you has no sound reason, and is just making excuses for the sake of it. It comes across as really arrogant I'm afraid.

Ironic that you post all that without an opinion on the football?

Practice what you preach..

Someone, the guy who changes his name a lot and I've forgotten the current one, was asking me the other day why I thought it necessary to post an article asking people no to divide the message board into two rival camps.

Well here is an example of just that from BWFC Forever:

" i think you CEF and Moses should form your own Owen Coyle hero worship club as your the only fans left who actually want this man in charge of our club."

Classic MT.

"You haven't offered your view of anything to do with football."

Do I need to quote my opinions on 606 since the match finished? Quite alot on this article..

You?

And here, from the same poster, is an example of someone who is taking his frustrations with Coyle out on other posters:

"MT you cannot have a rational discussion with people who could witness Coyle murder someone in front of them and still then defend his innocence until the bitter end, Moses is only here to cause trouble he is a WUM plain and simple same as CEF as well."

I really think anyone who would write something like this needs to step away and come back another day. It's a load of confrontational nonsense.