On the positive side for Sunderland and Villa he has been prolific, no better England finisher on his day.
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say's it all on his day, and how often does he have those kind of days?
Quite often really - 31 in 68 for Charlton
32 in 58 for Sunderland and
15 in 31 so far for Villa.
That suggests he has quite a few good days, pretty much one goal in two games all over - still stick to what I said above though.
Lucas Leiva is a class act
He has done better than I thought, what about when he was at Spurs.
He did struggle at Spurs though, who are probably the best team he has played for. Perhaps he needs to be the 'main man' to get the best out of him. At Spurs he was far from a guaranteed starter. Could we guarantee him enough games?
Agree, should of mentioned his failure at Spurs in my article, he did not get the game play he dersved there but still wasn't good enough.
Like I said, wouldn't want him for anything more than £15m, and would much prefer the three others mentioned.
BTW RIP Gary Ablett - So sad
One big plus for Bent is his pace, which would suit Liverpools style of play.
Yes and purely the fact he's proved he can be a goalscorer - with the bladddy amount of chances we create but don't finish...
Lucas Leiva is a class act
I dont want to start a Carroll debate, but I dont think he is the typical striker you see at Liverpool, for me you you are at your best when play fast attacking football keeping the ball on the floor, which the exception of a couple of your managers has been the liverpool trademark. Carroll for me could be another Crouch.
RED666
Agree really, I feel the one positive in the Carroll situation is Stevie G - his service will be invaluable as saw when Andy hit the bar v Newcastle.
Also like has been mentioned with Suarez out, Carroll will HAVE to step up, I can see the two of them playing together successfully with Stevie in behind. Andy just needs a couple of goals, I am not one of his haters though, have quite a bit of faith in him.
You're right about Bent's playing style for us though, just think we need someone who can score when they're having an off-day and really do not believe that is him.
I would agree with RED666 there Carroll seems to struggle to fit into our style however with Gerrard back maybe that will change. Bent pace would be a massive bonus for us and he is a player who is capable of scoring all kinds of goals which again is very useful. For 15 million I agree with the OP I would take him but no more no cash than that. I think perhaps Huntelaar or Solado would be better options but if we cant get those in jan then yes I would take Bent confidence player or not he can finish well.
One thing Bent does well is hold his line with the final defender and he makes some good runs, so you never know?
I have to say Liverpool are starting to look like the Liverpool of old
I have to say Liverpool are starting to look like the Liverpool of old
Cheers RED It's nice to have serious debate with a Man U fan once in a while.
Chris - GREAT shout with Soldado - completely missed him off my list and Valencia do need the money, he is a great player and I'd love to think that could happen.
There is a limit to the players we can attract at the moment.
The question is could he bring enough to propel us into the top four? On balance I think we could. The price tag would then be worth it.
Lucas Leiva is a class act
cheers fella, I do have my moments though, but I guess we all do.
Aggers - You'd be happy with Bent for £24m? I wouldn't be completely annoyed, but possibly better spent on two players, one £15mish striker and maybe somewhere else.
& RED666 - I've saw seen with my own eyes , here is to this morning though!
Lucas
Goalgetters are always at a real premium, there are so few about. Bent has proved it in the Premiership and I think he's in the all time top ten Premiership scorers in goals to game ratio.
If we can get back in the CL it's a different matter we would be able to attract even more quality.
I felt that Villa overpaid for him, but to sell my guess is that would at least want to recoup the transfer fee they paid.
I wanted us to sign Bent as backup for Torres a few seasons back. At £24m I would hope we give him a wide berth. He scores goals but I have never found him an east player to watch and he can go missing ib games.
He's not exactly the sort of player foreigners are going to dream of playing with
Red666:
"... for me you you are at your best when play fast attacking football keeping the ball on the floor, which the exception of a couple of your managers has been the liverpool trademark. Carroll for me could be another Crouch."
Spot on Red666, and thanks for a reasoned and well though out post, kudos.
Ever since we signed Carroll we seem to revert to hitting long balls to him in hope, without having anyone get into the box to profit from the balls he wins.
Carroll has a good shot on him and we need to start using him as a striker by passing balls to his feet, instead of just lumping high balls at him when his back is to goal and expecting him to perform miracles.
redboychris:
Solado...good shout, I think he would be perfect for us!
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posted on 2/1/12
On the positive side for Sunderland and Villa he has been prolific, no better England finisher on his day.
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say's it all on his day, and how often does he have those kind of days?
posted on 2/1/12
Quite often really - 31 in 68 for Charlton
32 in 58 for Sunderland and
15 in 31 so far for Villa.
That suggests he has quite a few good days, pretty much one goal in two games all over - still stick to what I said above though.
posted on 2/1/12
Lucas Leiva is a class act
He has done better than I thought, what about when he was at Spurs.
posted on 2/1/12
He did struggle at Spurs though, who are probably the best team he has played for. Perhaps he needs to be the 'main man' to get the best out of him. At Spurs he was far from a guaranteed starter. Could we guarantee him enough games?
posted on 2/1/12
Agree, should of mentioned his failure at Spurs in my article, he did not get the game play he dersved there but still wasn't good enough.
Like I said, wouldn't want him for anything more than £15m, and would much prefer the three others mentioned.
BTW RIP Gary Ablett - So sad
posted on 2/1/12
One big plus for Bent is his pace, which would suit Liverpools style of play.
posted on 2/1/12
Yes and purely the fact he's proved he can be a goalscorer - with the bladddy amount of chances we create but don't finish...
posted on 2/1/12
Lucas Leiva is a class act
I dont want to start a Carroll debate, but I dont think he is the typical striker you see at Liverpool, for me you you are at your best when play fast attacking football keeping the ball on the floor, which the exception of a couple of your managers has been the liverpool trademark. Carroll for me could be another Crouch.
posted on 2/1/12
RED666
Agree really, I feel the one positive in the Carroll situation is Stevie G - his service will be invaluable as saw when Andy hit the bar v Newcastle.
Also like has been mentioned with Suarez out, Carroll will HAVE to step up, I can see the two of them playing together successfully with Stevie in behind. Andy just needs a couple of goals, I am not one of his haters though, have quite a bit of faith in him.
You're right about Bent's playing style for us though, just think we need someone who can score when they're having an off-day and really do not believe that is him.
posted on 2/1/12
I would agree with RED666 there Carroll seems to struggle to fit into our style however with Gerrard back maybe that will change. Bent pace would be a massive bonus for us and he is a player who is capable of scoring all kinds of goals which again is very useful. For 15 million I agree with the OP I would take him but no more no cash than that. I think perhaps Huntelaar or Solado would be better options but if we cant get those in jan then yes I would take Bent confidence player or not he can finish well.
posted on 2/1/12
One thing Bent does well is hold his line with the final defender and he makes some good runs, so you never know?
I have to say Liverpool are starting to look like the Liverpool of old
posted on 2/1/12
I have to say Liverpool are starting to look like the Liverpool of old
Cheers RED It's nice to have serious debate with a Man U fan once in a while.
Chris - GREAT shout with Soldado - completely missed him off my list and Valencia do need the money, he is a great player and I'd love to think that could happen.
posted on 2/1/12
There is a limit to the players we can attract at the moment.
The question is could he bring enough to propel us into the top four? On balance I think we could. The price tag would then be worth it.
posted on 2/1/12
Lucas Leiva is a class act
cheers fella, I do have my moments though, but I guess we all do.
posted on 2/1/12
Aggers - You'd be happy with Bent for £24m? I wouldn't be completely annoyed, but possibly better spent on two players, one £15mish striker and maybe somewhere else.
& RED666 - I've saw seen with my own eyes , here is to this morning though!
posted on 2/1/12
Lucas
Goalgetters are always at a real premium, there are so few about. Bent has proved it in the Premiership and I think he's in the all time top ten Premiership scorers in goals to game ratio.
If we can get back in the CL it's a different matter we would be able to attract even more quality.
posted on 2/1/12
I felt that Villa overpaid for him, but to sell my guess is that would at least want to recoup the transfer fee they paid.
I wanted us to sign Bent as backup for Torres a few seasons back. At £24m I would hope we give him a wide berth. He scores goals but I have never found him an east player to watch and he can go missing ib games.
posted on 2/1/12
He's not exactly the sort of player foreigners are going to dream of playing with
posted on 2/1/12
Red666:
"... for me you you are at your best when play fast attacking football keeping the ball on the floor, which the exception of a couple of your managers has been the liverpool trademark. Carroll for me could be another Crouch."
Spot on Red666, and thanks for a reasoned and well though out post, kudos.
Ever since we signed Carroll we seem to revert to hitting long balls to him in hope, without having anyone get into the box to profit from the balls he wins.
Carroll has a good shot on him and we need to start using him as a striker by passing balls to his feet, instead of just lumping high balls at him when his back is to goal and expecting him to perform miracles.
redboychris:
Solado...good shout, I think he would be perfect for us!
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