I'll be there.
Notice banjo hasnt committed himself yet.
Nice little HOME fixture for him, or should that be AWAY.
Confused dot com
I'll be there managed to get a ticket this afternoon only just found out I could have the time off work.
Judging by Wolves current form you'd have to say they are shït. Only problem is I think we'll be resting a lot of players so this will even out the game which makes it hard to predict. We've done pretty well in the FA cup in the last few seasons, two quater finals and I still can't believe we lost to Portsmouth. Id take any sort of win tomorrow just don't want ET and pens.
ha ha ha, i knew you would pick up on that Zulu...
Or is that Brummie Burger?
So you will be pleased to know that i wont be going... awaits
Reasons well i went to the home leg, the Wolves fans i do from time to time go to games are not going.
And so it would be me on my tod and also i dont have the cash.
Lastly game is on TV.
So thats my excuses and i know Zulu you will have a field day with those, and so yes that makes me a not propper Blues Support that you have a problem with.
And thus why i feel like a hypocrite and judas.
End of the day even if those Dingles was going, i doubt i would not go unless my Brother was going and he is at work untill 8 anyway..
So going on have a bring on the comments
The KiD
Anyway i know its all banter....
But to be honest Wolverhampton is not a bad, place biased Bluenoses are bound to think Birmingham is the dogs danglers... Villa fans say Small Heath is a dive well they not wrong there only how come they think all Bluenoses are from Small Heath.
Walsall is not bad either...
speaking from someone who has lived in the Black Country they are not bad places, Dudley town centre is worse and has less going for its self and West Brom well the place is a propper dive worse than beirut
Thats not saying WBA fans are bad, as many dont just come from West Brom.
One half of West Brom is like New Jack City the other is like the place they filmed Cacoon
Honestly Wolves is not so bad, and hey Grilled Hedgehog ant so bad either..... (PS there are far more Caravans in Brum than Wolvo).
The KiD
You on your Todd
Thought there were over 2000 of us going
You can work these comments out
Maybe a bit overtop Zulu...
Hey we dont agree on stuff but i am sorry for firing off on that.
One thing i cant and will not doubt or question is your loyalty and love for this club, i have not and will never pretend to be a bigger fan than you are.
I had said that yes it would have been easier for me if i was a Wolves fan, i have said that. But back when i was 14 i became a Bluenose and although maybe not the most devoted of Bluenoses, i do not support any other club more.
I will go to see other clubs play but that dont mean i support them, i supported Blues since they was in worse position than we are now and i will support them even if we end up playing in much lower leagues.
Had my Parents not moved to Birmingham when i was less than 18 months old i would indeed had been most likely a Wolves fan but would not have had any problems supporting my most local club and thats Walsall no matter how poor they are thats not the point.
Although i do support Blues, i do not claim or never have had claimed that i have more rights to views than the many truely loyal Bluenoses out there.
Hopefully we can brush any misunderstandings under the carpet and start a fresh.
Each season my aim is always to make sure i can go to see 50% of Blues home games but financially for me thats sometimes not always possible.
And i guess a counter argument would be that if i did not go to Wolves games thats one extra Blues game i would be able to see, but i used to go to games as part of a agreement and thats one week i would go to Wolves with my Brother and another to Blues with him.
He has stopped going often over last 12 months, so Wolves games i went with a mate and a few of his friends and family only a few of that crowd found out i was a Bluenose and i dont get made feel welcome and so i have not been that often to Wolves this season either.
To be honest i felt at WBA their fans never seem to have the negative portion that i see at Blues and Wolves and their fans do not boo the team as often as what Blues, Villa and Wolves seem to do. (thats not all fans just those certain selection of them).
I was born in West Brom... so maybe should be a Baggie lol.
The KiD
"Maybe a bit overtop Zulu......."
Meant to say maybe i was a bit over the top
Anyway hope you enjoy the game, i do wish i was going and hey have a good day and have a for me
The KiD
Banjo you don't have to justify how loyal you are to other people on here. Im sure we'd all go to every game home and away if we had the chance and the money but this isn't the case. Everyone's situation is different. So what if you have to alternate between blues and wolves its better than not bothering at all. No idea why people are getting on your back for it.
Comments by Banjo.
" many truely loyal Bluenoses out there."
" financially for me thats sometimes not always possible."
If you mean those who go to every game home and away then it mainly comes down to cost. I work long hours and even if I had the time to spare I probably wouldn't have the cash.
So if your analogy is correct then only the most affluent are the most loyal.
I'm going to the Wolves game, it's one of a couple of away games this season with Peterborough being the other. Does this make me more loyal than anyone who has been to 1 or less away games or just more fortunate ? I think the latter.
Quite a few went abroad on our European Tour, I never went to any of those away games, I don't own a passport, am I less loyal ?
I've been going down Blues since I was 4. I had a season ticket for 10 of the next 14 years then moved back to London. Over the next 30 year's or so I travelled the motorways to watch Blues, mainly at St Andrews but some 'away' games which were closer for me, like the Fulhams QPRs and the like. Did this make me more or less loyal ?
I have mates with ST's who haven't been away for donkeys, are they more loyal than those who go to half the home games and half the away games ?
In my hallway, it's like a shrine according to my daughter. Blues players pictures, aerial photo's of St Andrews, Blues Clocks, rosettes, autographs in small frames of Sir Alf, John Bond, Freddie Goodwin and Trevor Francis. Am I more loyal ? No.
In all honesty, I believe your club chooses you, not the other way around. If it was, I would undoubtedly support Spurs. I have a soft spot for them as I do for Walsall but despite that I'm a Bluenose until the day I die.
Just like you are Banjo Kid. Despite everything, you are a Bluenose. If you weren't, you'd still be going down the Dingles patch week in week out.
How exactly does anyone define loyalty ?
What i meant by that is that i dont pretend to be as loyal as season ticket holders.
I never meant that someone who goes to the most games as most loyal, sorry if you misunderstood me
What i am saying is there are others who have been going for years and going to every game they can, that could be season ticket holders, it could be some who only go to 50% or 75% of home games.
There could be reasons for not going such as working on weekend, or indeed working away long distances or even not living local for example Bluenoses who live in London.
What i meant is although finances have meant i cant afford to go all the time, if say in a season i went to 8 Blues games but 6 Wolves games then in essence i could have gone to 14 Blues games instead so by that i am not the most loyal fan in that respect.
Also while i am a Bluenose i dont eat, sleep, drink as a Bluenose? Not sure thats the right saying
What i mean is i dont put being a Bluenose above everything, some people work hard to go to a lot of games and spend fortunes on transport and drinks etc.
some people go drinking 3-4 days a week and can spend £200 a week on Booze, for me even i had money to spend like that, although i like a drink for me drinking 2 days a week would be plenty for me.
What i am saying is even if i say had £400 a week to spend, i would still not go every away game as i would spend money on other things and thats usually not on myself.
But i dont have the fortune of having that kind of cash, i quit my job ended up with hassle being able to sign on and still looking for work while doing voluntary work.
The job i did have was as and when required and seamed i was used to do the weekend shifts no one else wanted to do, i would had been asked to work all over Xmass, knowing after that it would be back to 1-2 days a week so thought S0D that
The KiD
So sorry if i came accross as that loyality is by amount of games that you go to.
I agree with everything you said, there are reasons why some cant go every game, and as you said does someone who goes to 10 away and 10 home games be more loyal than somone who goes to 19-23 home games. I never meant that.
I guess loyality or lack of could be those who have the means, time and money to go but do not go and simply keep look at Skysports news for watch TV games.
Like some plastics around the area who where Ma Utd tops but then dont even watch every Man Utd game on telly
That kind of defines less loyality.
I would say i have grown to be a more casual fan, i cant say i am one of those who support the club by going as often as possible but again i am not a Armchair fan either. so i guess i sit somewhere inbetween.
Crowds are down, but that dont mean that every empty seat is a fan who is not loyal, there could be reasons for not going, like how Villa fans are not going because of McLeish.
Hopefully the club will rise from the mess the Chinese put us in and be back in the Prem and i am sure we would see the feel good factor and higher gates come along.
Everyone who still goes has my upmost respect but that dont mean i have no respect for those who should be in the empty seats.
The KiD
Well said Banjo.
A successful club [or one on the brink] should/would fill the seats.
Man Utd is a prime example as they have been very successful over the last few years, Chelsea is the same [to a lesser extent] and then Arsenal.
However I did notice some empty seats at the Man City/L'pool game which surprised me especially as it was a semi-final [1st leg].
My first thought was/is fickle fans, but there is something obscene when you have people who love their club [and may well have lost their job or be close] and have to pick and choose which games they can afford to watch.
However they are 'paying' to watch a team that either has a player at GBP250,000/wk[!] who doesn't want to play, or 'giving' money to a team which is willing [rightly or wrongly] to bench a player for infringement(s) rather than cut their losses and offload the player [especially with interested parties being available].
I don't blame people for picking and choosing their games even if one was Villa/Man Utd instead of say Blues/Barnsley because it is all a spectacle now and people want to be entertained and more importantly [in this present day and age] able to say to their friends/family 'Oh, I once saw 'such-and-such' play in the flesh...' etc.
The unfortunate thing is that it is becoming increasingly popular to do these things as a matter of course rather it being out of the ordinary instead of just choosing one plan of action and sticking to it [ie support/watch your team every game come what may].
You only have to look at the pipe dreams this encourages with the demise of teams like Darlington and their 25,000 capacity stadium.
OK banjo
The olive branch is offered.
But i will never understand how people can put money in the coffers of other clubs, when the club they support is not only a short trip down the road and in the financial mire.
Oh Killpage, yes i would go and watch Blues / Barnsley rather than Villa / Man U, because thats the way i am.
As i have said before I understand people can not afford to watch as many games as me and cant afford season tickets.
I have been in that situation, but Blues were my first and only choice.
Banjo, lets come to an agreement.
You dont mention anything about your trips to watch the dingles and i wont broach the subject on here.
Again the olive branch is offered.
BTW I aint Brummieburger (I'm more intelligent and good looking)
Barca is there enough money in beingacock for you to turn pro or are you still entering amateur beingacock competitions? I think you should go for it. If beingacock is ever recognised as an Olympic sport you could be Britain’s main medal hope. Imagine that – all this beingacock just for fun could lead to a glittering career as the UK’s first beingacock gold medallist.
Tatter,
Any idea how many tickets Wolves have sold for tonight ?
Banjo, I wasn't knocking you mate, I was agreeing with you.
You actually bought up an interesting question. What makes one fan more (or less) loyal than another ?
Also, I once went to about ten Southend games in one season. It's not that I stopped supporting Blues, it was because I couldn't afford the travel to Birmingham but I still needed the 'live football fix'. Know what I mean ?
Ask Blueinbarca if he's ever been to local football matches ? Of course he has. You need that 'fix'.
RBC no we've got a sweep going on 12Yards about the attendance and most people reckon about 11,000 but it could be a bit higher.
If the game hadn’t been switched and put on ITV I’d have thought about 15,000 – 16,000.
Agreed about the switch. Surely a half full stadium not on TV is better than a two thirds empty one for all the nation to see.
With all us 'noses landing tonight, there will still be an atmosphere...
Really looking forward to tonight; no pressure whatsoever and a decent away turn out.
Come on you blue boys!
KRO
It will be a very good trun out for blues tonight and we will create a good atmosphere. Can't wait for 3.30 when I finish work and can get in the pub.
Tatter you mention the wander for a drink, if the old bill let us up that way we may pop in for a swift one!
bcfc83 try Rothwells if you can't get in the Wanderer. Always plenty of friendly locals in there.
twatter306
Is that another place where you can be found hiding behind your mates?
RBC
I've been to the Nou Camp many times but the best games are Espanyol v Barca at the Olympic Stadium in Montjuic.
Makes the old "El Classico" Barca v Real look like a training session!
Last one I went to there was 5 sending-offs,2 mini-riots in the stands and a bonfire!
We were sitting with the Espanyol fans and they loved us for not supporting Barca,buying us beers outside the ground and everything,great lads!
Tut tut, such bitterness blueinbalsallheath. Mind you have plenty to be bitter about.
Well we are planning on getting up there early tatter, so I am sure we will bump into a few of locals, we have all had our jabs though so we shouldn't pick up any nasty diseases while we are over there.
There are plenty of places in town you'll get a drink with no trouble bcfc83 - just stay away from anywhere I've suggested!
Work means I won't get into town until around 7.00pm so it'll be a quick one (two if the first one goes down very well) and in for me.
You on official transport or making your own way?
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posted on 17/1/12
I'll be there.
Notice banjo hasnt committed himself yet.
Nice little HOME fixture for him, or should that be AWAY.
Confused dot com
posted on 17/1/12
I'll be there managed to get a ticket this afternoon only just found out I could have the time off work.
Judging by Wolves current form you'd have to say they are shït. Only problem is I think we'll be resting a lot of players so this will even out the game which makes it hard to predict. We've done pretty well in the FA cup in the last few seasons, two quater finals and I still can't believe we lost to Portsmouth. Id take any sort of win tomorrow just don't want ET and pens.
posted on 17/1/12
ha ha ha, i knew you would pick up on that Zulu...
Or is that Brummie Burger?
So you will be pleased to know that i wont be going... awaits
Reasons well i went to the home leg, the Wolves fans i do from time to time go to games are not going.
And so it would be me on my tod and also i dont have the cash.
Lastly game is on TV.
So thats my excuses and i know Zulu you will have a field day with those, and so yes that makes me a not propper Blues Support that you have a problem with.
And thus why i feel like a hypocrite and judas.
End of the day even if those Dingles was going, i doubt i would not go unless my Brother was going and he is at work untill 8 anyway..
So going on have a bring on the comments
The KiD
posted on 17/1/12
Anyway i know its all banter....
But to be honest Wolverhampton is not a bad, place biased Bluenoses are bound to think Birmingham is the dogs danglers... Villa fans say Small Heath is a dive well they not wrong there only how come they think all Bluenoses are from Small Heath.
Walsall is not bad either...
speaking from someone who has lived in the Black Country they are not bad places, Dudley town centre is worse and has less going for its self and West Brom well the place is a propper dive worse than beirut
Thats not saying WBA fans are bad, as many dont just come from West Brom.
One half of West Brom is like New Jack City the other is like the place they filmed Cacoon
Honestly Wolves is not so bad, and hey Grilled Hedgehog ant so bad either..... (PS there are far more Caravans in Brum than Wolvo).
The KiD
posted on 17/1/12
You on your Todd
Thought there were over 2000 of us going
You can work these comments out
posted on 17/1/12
Maybe a bit overtop Zulu...
Hey we dont agree on stuff but i am sorry for firing off on that.
One thing i cant and will not doubt or question is your loyalty and love for this club, i have not and will never pretend to be a bigger fan than you are.
I had said that yes it would have been easier for me if i was a Wolves fan, i have said that. But back when i was 14 i became a Bluenose and although maybe not the most devoted of Bluenoses, i do not support any other club more.
I will go to see other clubs play but that dont mean i support them, i supported Blues since they was in worse position than we are now and i will support them even if we end up playing in much lower leagues.
Had my Parents not moved to Birmingham when i was less than 18 months old i would indeed had been most likely a Wolves fan but would not have had any problems supporting my most local club and thats Walsall no matter how poor they are thats not the point.
Although i do support Blues, i do not claim or never have had claimed that i have more rights to views than the many truely loyal Bluenoses out there.
Hopefully we can brush any misunderstandings under the carpet and start a fresh.
Each season my aim is always to make sure i can go to see 50% of Blues home games but financially for me thats sometimes not always possible.
And i guess a counter argument would be that if i did not go to Wolves games thats one extra Blues game i would be able to see, but i used to go to games as part of a agreement and thats one week i would go to Wolves with my Brother and another to Blues with him.
He has stopped going often over last 12 months, so Wolves games i went with a mate and a few of his friends and family only a few of that crowd found out i was a Bluenose and i dont get made feel welcome and so i have not been that often to Wolves this season either.
To be honest i felt at WBA their fans never seem to have the negative portion that i see at Blues and Wolves and their fans do not boo the team as often as what Blues, Villa and Wolves seem to do. (thats not all fans just those certain selection of them).
I was born in West Brom... so maybe should be a Baggie lol.
The KiD
posted on 17/1/12
"Maybe a bit overtop Zulu......."
Meant to say maybe i was a bit over the top
Anyway hope you enjoy the game, i do wish i was going and hey have a good day and have a for me
The KiD
posted on 17/1/12
Banjo you don't have to justify how loyal you are to other people on here. Im sure we'd all go to every game home and away if we had the chance and the money but this isn't the case. Everyone's situation is different. So what if you have to alternate between blues and wolves its better than not bothering at all. No idea why people are getting on your back for it.
posted on 17/1/12
Comments by Banjo.
" many truely loyal Bluenoses out there."
" financially for me thats sometimes not always possible."
If you mean those who go to every game home and away then it mainly comes down to cost. I work long hours and even if I had the time to spare I probably wouldn't have the cash.
So if your analogy is correct then only the most affluent are the most loyal.
I'm going to the Wolves game, it's one of a couple of away games this season with Peterborough being the other. Does this make me more loyal than anyone who has been to 1 or less away games or just more fortunate ? I think the latter.
Quite a few went abroad on our European Tour, I never went to any of those away games, I don't own a passport, am I less loyal ?
I've been going down Blues since I was 4. I had a season ticket for 10 of the next 14 years then moved back to London. Over the next 30 year's or so I travelled the motorways to watch Blues, mainly at St Andrews but some 'away' games which were closer for me, like the Fulhams QPRs and the like. Did this make me more or less loyal ?
I have mates with ST's who haven't been away for donkeys, are they more loyal than those who go to half the home games and half the away games ?
In my hallway, it's like a shrine according to my daughter. Blues players pictures, aerial photo's of St Andrews, Blues Clocks, rosettes, autographs in small frames of Sir Alf, John Bond, Freddie Goodwin and Trevor Francis. Am I more loyal ? No.
In all honesty, I believe your club chooses you, not the other way around. If it was, I would undoubtedly support Spurs. I have a soft spot for them as I do for Walsall but despite that I'm a Bluenose until the day I die.
Just like you are Banjo Kid. Despite everything, you are a Bluenose. If you weren't, you'd still be going down the Dingles patch week in week out.
How exactly does anyone define loyalty ?
posted on 17/1/12
What i meant by that is that i dont pretend to be as loyal as season ticket holders.
I never meant that someone who goes to the most games as most loyal, sorry if you misunderstood me
What i am saying is there are others who have been going for years and going to every game they can, that could be season ticket holders, it could be some who only go to 50% or 75% of home games.
There could be reasons for not going such as working on weekend, or indeed working away long distances or even not living local for example Bluenoses who live in London.
What i meant is although finances have meant i cant afford to go all the time, if say in a season i went to 8 Blues games but 6 Wolves games then in essence i could have gone to 14 Blues games instead so by that i am not the most loyal fan in that respect.
Also while i am a Bluenose i dont eat, sleep, drink as a Bluenose? Not sure thats the right saying
What i mean is i dont put being a Bluenose above everything, some people work hard to go to a lot of games and spend fortunes on transport and drinks etc.
some people go drinking 3-4 days a week and can spend £200 a week on Booze, for me even i had money to spend like that, although i like a drink for me drinking 2 days a week would be plenty for me.
What i am saying is even if i say had £400 a week to spend, i would still not go every away game as i would spend money on other things and thats usually not on myself.
But i dont have the fortune of having that kind of cash, i quit my job ended up with hassle being able to sign on and still looking for work while doing voluntary work.
The job i did have was as and when required and seamed i was used to do the weekend shifts no one else wanted to do, i would had been asked to work all over Xmass, knowing after that it would be back to 1-2 days a week so thought S0D that
The KiD
posted on 17/1/12
So sorry if i came accross as that loyality is by amount of games that you go to.
I agree with everything you said, there are reasons why some cant go every game, and as you said does someone who goes to 10 away and 10 home games be more loyal than somone who goes to 19-23 home games. I never meant that.
I guess loyality or lack of could be those who have the means, time and money to go but do not go and simply keep look at Skysports news for watch TV games.
Like some plastics around the area who where Ma Utd tops but then dont even watch every Man Utd game on telly
That kind of defines less loyality.
I would say i have grown to be a more casual fan, i cant say i am one of those who support the club by going as often as possible but again i am not a Armchair fan either. so i guess i sit somewhere inbetween.
Crowds are down, but that dont mean that every empty seat is a fan who is not loyal, there could be reasons for not going, like how Villa fans are not going because of McLeish.
Hopefully the club will rise from the mess the Chinese put us in and be back in the Prem and i am sure we would see the feel good factor and higher gates come along.
Everyone who still goes has my upmost respect but that dont mean i have no respect for those who should be in the empty seats.
The KiD
posted on 18/1/12
Well said Banjo.
A successful club [or one on the brink] should/would fill the seats.
Man Utd is a prime example as they have been very successful over the last few years, Chelsea is the same [to a lesser extent] and then Arsenal.
However I did notice some empty seats at the Man City/L'pool game which surprised me especially as it was a semi-final [1st leg].
My first thought was/is fickle fans, but there is something obscene when you have people who love their club [and may well have lost their job or be close] and have to pick and choose which games they can afford to watch.
However they are 'paying' to watch a team that either has a player at GBP250,000/wk[!] who doesn't want to play, or 'giving' money to a team which is willing [rightly or wrongly] to bench a player for infringement(s) rather than cut their losses and offload the player [especially with interested parties being available].
I don't blame people for picking and choosing their games even if one was Villa/Man Utd instead of say Blues/Barnsley because it is all a spectacle now and people want to be entertained and more importantly [in this present day and age] able to say to their friends/family 'Oh, I once saw 'such-and-such' play in the flesh...' etc.
The unfortunate thing is that it is becoming increasingly popular to do these things as a matter of course rather it being out of the ordinary instead of just choosing one plan of action and sticking to it [ie support/watch your team every game come what may].
You only have to look at the pipe dreams this encourages with the demise of teams like Darlington and their 25,000 capacity stadium.
posted on 18/1/12
OK banjo
The olive branch is offered.
But i will never understand how people can put money in the coffers of other clubs, when the club they support is not only a short trip down the road and in the financial mire.
Oh Killpage, yes i would go and watch Blues / Barnsley rather than Villa / Man U, because thats the way i am.
As i have said before I understand people can not afford to watch as many games as me and cant afford season tickets.
I have been in that situation, but Blues were my first and only choice.
Banjo, lets come to an agreement.
You dont mention anything about your trips to watch the dingles and i wont broach the subject on here.
Again the olive branch is offered.
BTW I aint Brummieburger (I'm more intelligent and good looking)
posted on 18/1/12
Barca is there enough money in beingacock for you to turn pro or are you still entering amateur beingacock competitions? I think you should go for it. If beingacock is ever recognised as an Olympic sport you could be Britain’s main medal hope. Imagine that – all this beingacock just for fun could lead to a glittering career as the UK’s first beingacock gold medallist.
posted on 18/1/12
Tatter,
Any idea how many tickets Wolves have sold for tonight ?
Banjo, I wasn't knocking you mate, I was agreeing with you.
You actually bought up an interesting question. What makes one fan more (or less) loyal than another ?
Also, I once went to about ten Southend games in one season. It's not that I stopped supporting Blues, it was because I couldn't afford the travel to Birmingham but I still needed the 'live football fix'. Know what I mean ?
Ask Blueinbarca if he's ever been to local football matches ? Of course he has. You need that 'fix'.
posted on 18/1/12
RBC no we've got a sweep going on 12Yards about the attendance and most people reckon about 11,000 but it could be a bit higher.
If the game hadn’t been switched and put on ITV I’d have thought about 15,000 – 16,000.
posted on 18/1/12
Agreed about the switch. Surely a half full stadium not on TV is better than a two thirds empty one for all the nation to see.
With all us 'noses landing tonight, there will still be an atmosphere...
posted on 18/1/12
Really looking forward to tonight; no pressure whatsoever and a decent away turn out.
Come on you blue boys!
KRO
posted on 18/1/12
It will be a very good trun out for blues tonight and we will create a good atmosphere. Can't wait for 3.30 when I finish work and can get in the pub.
Tatter you mention the wander for a drink, if the old bill let us up that way we may pop in for a swift one!
posted on 18/1/12
bcfc83 try Rothwells if you can't get in the Wanderer. Always plenty of friendly locals in there.
posted on 18/1/12
twatter306
Is that another place where you can be found hiding behind your mates?
posted on 18/1/12
RBC
I've been to the Nou Camp many times but the best games are Espanyol v Barca at the Olympic Stadium in Montjuic.
Makes the old "El Classico" Barca v Real look like a training session!
Last one I went to there was 5 sending-offs,2 mini-riots in the stands and a bonfire!
We were sitting with the Espanyol fans and they loved us for not supporting Barca,buying us beers outside the ground and everything,great lads!
posted on 18/1/12
Tut tut, such bitterness blueinbalsallheath. Mind you have plenty to be bitter about.
posted on 18/1/12
Well we are planning on getting up there early tatter, so I am sure we will bump into a few of locals, we have all had our jabs though so we shouldn't pick up any nasty diseases while we are over there.
posted on 18/1/12
There are plenty of places in town you'll get a drink with no trouble bcfc83 - just stay away from anywhere I've suggested!
Work means I won't get into town until around 7.00pm so it'll be a quick one (two if the first one goes down very well) and in for me.
You on official transport or making your own way?
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