The so-called special one had moulded a team i his image-dirty and must win at all cost
In my 30yrs or so of following the game, i have not seen a better team like Barcelona.
No one can compete with them technically
On paper I'd say City and Real would be a great game and quite hard to call IMO.
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City-Villarreal in Manchester was a close game and impossible to call until the final minute. That's the same Villarreal that are 2nd from bottom in the Shi'ite league.
itsonlyagame - my team is bigger than your team
You are a Madrid fan right? Would you agree that Barca have a good defence? There seems to be this myth that it is poor.
City-Villarreal in Manchester was a close game and impossible to call until the final minute.
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City are champions league amateurs so its not fair judging them on that, although Spurs did way better.....
its just like how Blackburn beat United, thats why football is a good sport, very unpredictable
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"The goal was let in by the stand in keeper."
Actually pep is testing him for no.1.
"Alves is always out of position, that's because he's so attacking, but defensively he's brilliant. "
you don't see the contradiction in that statement?
"It seems universal that Ronaldo is second only to Messi, yet he can never get the better of their defenders. "
thats because c.ronaldo has some mental block when the pressure is on him. c.ronaldo doesn't do that great in any pressure game for madrid. thats pretty much accepted now in madrid. ask any madrid fans what they think of ronaldo in tough games.
I'll leave it that. you won't convince me that Barca have a great defence and i don't think i can persuade you they don't either.
Iniesta is the second best player in the world, only behind Messi.
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Love the way they mix things up and taking on a man occasionally rather than playing the posession pass.
Iniesta has always been my favourite player.
I still think Madrid will win the league. Barca probably have the better chance in the CL. And anyone who thinks any Premier League team are anywhere close to Madrid is clueless.
Don't say that about Iniesta Batmanu, you
You're overrated.
Jenius99 (U4918)
Fair enough mate. I just don't think it is as poor as people make out. I know poor defending as well, I've been watching Phil Jones and Evra this season.
For me:
Messi
Ronaldo
Xavi
Iniesta
Bale.......
Iniesta is very good, however, he cannot control the game as good as Xavi, and is not as productive as him and Fabregas.
Iniesta's effortless gliding across the pitch almost gets me jizzing my pants but there's no way he's a better player than Ronaldo.
Iniesta = Class
Batman = Lardarse Couch Expert
Iniesta's touch, control, passing, movement is just orgasmic.
He's more talented than Ronaldo imo.
With 6 points ahead in the league I can't see anything but Real Madrid winning it. Barcelona haven't been overly convincing by their own very high standards. It's still very possible Real could walk away with the 2 important trophies this season. I wouldn't bet against it.
enius99 (U4918)
Fair enough mate. I just don't
think it is as poor as people
make out. I know poor
defending as well, I've been
watching Phil Jones and Evra this
season.
For me:
Messi
Ronaldo
Xavi
Iniesta
Bale.......
Iniesta is very good, however, he
cannot control the game as good
as Xavi, and is not as productive
as him and Fabregas.
------
Is something messing with my head or did I just see Bale?
Barca's hunger has to be questioned in terms of the league I think.
With that said when you look at how much the core of their squad has won, it wouldnt be suprising to see them pull their foots off the gas occasionally.
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You are a Madrid fan right? Would you agree that Barca have a good defence? There seems to be this myth that it is poor.
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Yes I am, and of course they're good defenders. No matter how good the guys in front of them are, Puyol and Piqué are a world champion pairing. Pyol's made the UEFA XI about 6 times in his career. Abidal on form is as good in the defensive phase as any LB around. Alves isn't really a RB - most of the time Busquets slots in between the 2 CBs with Puyol fanning out to cover the wing.
The reason they can look bad is the fact that they have to play with 40 yards of space behind their backs. That's a nightmare for any defender, but the ones they have are beautifully suited to the system.
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 4 minutes ago
City-Villarreal in Manchester was a close game and impossible to call until the final minute.
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City are champions league amateurs so its not fair judging them on that, although Spurs did way better.....
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Yeah and Villarreal made the semis in their debut season a few years back, better than either of the above.
Anyhow, I agree, City should give Madrid a game and I'm glad they're out. I was just using your comment to prompt some reflection on what quite a few people here tonight have termed a rubbish league.
mthierry (U7482)
I thought the dots might give away that it's tongue in cheek.
What players in the English game would stand a chance of getting into the Barca team forgetting the defence?
Wilshere and Bale probably.
"And anyone who thinks any Premier League team are anywhere close to Madrid is clueless."
You don't wanna read this then...
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/77194
Stewart Downing would get into the Barca team I think.
Wilshere and Bale probably.
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No chance.
No cm in the world would get into that midfield. They even had to change the system to accomodate Fabregas because they couldn't drop one of Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta.
Silva, Aguero and RVP could get into the front three.
mthierry (U7482)
I thought the dots might give
away that it's tongue in cheek.
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It's been a long day. You certainly had me.
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posted on 18/1/12
The so-called special one had moulded a team i his image-dirty and must win at all cost
In my 30yrs or so of following the game, i have not seen a better team like Barcelona.
No one can compete with them technically
posted on 18/1/12
On paper I'd say City and Real would be a great game and quite hard to call IMO.
---
City-Villarreal in Manchester was a close game and impossible to call until the final minute. That's the same Villarreal that are 2nd from bottom in the Shi'ite league.
posted on 18/1/12
itsonlyagame - my team is bigger than your team
You are a Madrid fan right? Would you agree that Barca have a good defence? There seems to be this myth that it is poor.
posted on 18/1/12
City-Villarreal in Manchester was a close game and impossible to call until the final minute.
---
City are champions league amateurs so its not fair judging them on that, although Spurs did way better.....
its just like how Blackburn beat United, thats why football is a good sport, very unpredictable
posted on 18/1/12
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posted on 18/1/12
"The goal was let in by the stand in keeper."
Actually pep is testing him for no.1.
"Alves is always out of position, that's because he's so attacking, but defensively he's brilliant. "
you don't see the contradiction in that statement?
"It seems universal that Ronaldo is second only to Messi, yet he can never get the better of their defenders. "
thats because c.ronaldo has some mental block when the pressure is on him. c.ronaldo doesn't do that great in any pressure game for madrid. thats pretty much accepted now in madrid. ask any madrid fans what they think of ronaldo in tough games.
I'll leave it that. you won't convince me that Barca have a great defence and i don't think i can persuade you they don't either.
posted on 18/1/12
Iniesta is the second best player in the world, only behind Messi.
----
Love the way they mix things up and taking on a man occasionally rather than playing the posession pass.
Iniesta has always been my favourite player.
posted on 18/1/12
Iniesta So overrated
posted on 18/1/12
I still think Madrid will win the league. Barca probably have the better chance in the CL. And anyone who thinks any Premier League team are anywhere close to Madrid is clueless.
posted on 18/1/12
Don't say that about Iniesta Batmanu, you
You're overrated.
posted on 18/1/12
Jenius99 (U4918)
Fair enough mate. I just don't think it is as poor as people make out. I know poor defending as well, I've been watching Phil Jones and Evra this season.
For me:
Messi
Ronaldo
Xavi
Iniesta
Bale.......
Iniesta is very good, however, he cannot control the game as good as Xavi, and is not as productive as him and Fabregas.
posted on 18/1/12
Iniesta's effortless gliding across the pitch almost gets me jizzing my pants but there's no way he's a better player than Ronaldo.
posted on 18/1/12
Iniesta = Class
Batman = Lardarse Couch Expert
posted on 18/1/12
Iniesta's touch, control, passing, movement is just orgasmic.
He's more talented than Ronaldo imo.
posted on 18/1/12
With 6 points ahead in the league I can't see anything but Real Madrid winning it. Barcelona haven't been overly convincing by their own very high standards. It's still very possible Real could walk away with the 2 important trophies this season. I wouldn't bet against it.
posted on 18/1/12
enius99 (U4918)
Fair enough mate. I just don't
think it is as poor as people
make out. I know poor
defending as well, I've been
watching Phil Jones and Evra this
season.
For me:
Messi
Ronaldo
Xavi
Iniesta
Bale.......
Iniesta is very good, however, he
cannot control the game as good
as Xavi, and is not as productive
as him and Fabregas.
------
Is something messing with my head or did I just see Bale?
posted on 18/1/12
Barca's hunger has to be questioned in terms of the league I think.
With that said when you look at how much the core of their squad has won, it wouldnt be suprising to see them pull their foots off the gas occasionally.
posted on 18/1/12
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 18/1/12
You are a Madrid fan right? Would you agree that Barca have a good defence? There seems to be this myth that it is poor.
---
Yes I am, and of course they're good defenders. No matter how good the guys in front of them are, Puyol and Piqué are a world champion pairing. Pyol's made the UEFA XI about 6 times in his career. Abidal on form is as good in the defensive phase as any LB around. Alves isn't really a RB - most of the time Busquets slots in between the 2 CBs with Puyol fanning out to cover the wing.
The reason they can look bad is the fact that they have to play with 40 yards of space behind their backs. That's a nightmare for any defender, but the ones they have are beautifully suited to the system.
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 4 minutes ago
City-Villarreal in Manchester was a close game and impossible to call until the final minute.
---
City are champions league amateurs so its not fair judging them on that, although Spurs did way better.....
---
Yeah and Villarreal made the semis in their debut season a few years back, better than either of the above.
Anyhow, I agree, City should give Madrid a game and I'm glad they're out. I was just using your comment to prompt some reflection on what quite a few people here tonight have termed a rubbish league.
posted on 18/1/12
mthierry (U7482)
I thought the dots might give away that it's tongue in cheek.
posted on 18/1/12
What players in the English game would stand a chance of getting into the Barca team forgetting the defence?
Wilshere and Bale probably.
posted on 18/1/12
"And anyone who thinks any Premier League team are anywhere close to Madrid is clueless."
You don't wanna read this then...
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/77194
posted on 18/1/12
Stewart Downing would get into the Barca team I think.
posted on 18/1/12
Wilshere and Bale probably.
-----
No chance.
No cm in the world would get into that midfield. They even had to change the system to accomodate Fabregas because they couldn't drop one of Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta.
Silva, Aguero and RVP could get into the front three.
posted on 18/1/12
mthierry (U7482)
I thought the dots might give
away that it's tongue in cheek.
------
It's been a long day. You certainly had me.
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