I hate to tell you this but CL is huge money
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Shame you've had none of it for the last 2 years then - soon to be 3...............
Shame you've had none of it for the last 2 years then - soon to be 3...............
.....
Yet we're still a juggernaut
Super investment
Lucrative kit sponsor
Lucrative kit manufacturer
FFP coming in - chelsea screwed, Arsenal dont have pulling power.
United and liverpool set to thrive
We, who the hell is we
As if your input, watching the TV changes anything
/\ assumptions assumptions.
That's why beating you is easy.
Just use facts sonny jim - you might land a jab one day
What's the point in having all that revenue and being a juggernaut if you have nothing to show for it?
I think you should put a call in to the RAC, because it looks like your expensive juggernaut has broken down in a lay-by.
In fact while we're on an automotive theme and given recent incidents, I'm going to rename LFC as LOTUS.
Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious.
What's the point in having all that revenue and being a juggernaut if you have nothing to show for it?
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I think the last 10 years has been very good and as far as marketing is concerned then the club have managed some fantastic kit/sponsor deals.
Their epic 2005 win in Istanbul was a marketing dream.
When investors come in they don't look at immediate - they look at a plan
You have absolutely zero business/financial acumen
no surprise you're a blue
Still living in the past metro?
In 2005 I was playing cricket at County league level, and bowling at a fair pace. Since then my knees have given in and I can't do that any more. So I am no longer at the standard I was then.
I think it's a useful analogy.
Oh dear Metro lad - I feel embarassed for you. Your question was what success our little spending in the transfer market had brought us. I rightly pointed out that it basically in the last 5 years brought us the same as you - both clubs have played in competitions that neither of us have won. You've simply generated more money as played at the top table (last time was three seasons ago) and yet what have you done with that extra revenue - spent it all on players - and achieved what? You might win the league cup - winning a cup that the top teams in the premier league play their second teams in? For a club like Liverpool, with all their history, to say that winning what the best teams in the premier league now consider two bob it's a bit of a come down isn't it. That my friend is a knockout blow - your view that success is finishing fourth and a league cup final - that must really hurt - now you know how we felt in the late 80's - the thing is we've come to terms with it now - the longer you hold on the more bitter you'll become. I imagine the Liverpool fans will be leading the calls for Arry to be the next England manager in the vain hope it sends Tottenham in Free fall. Even then, you'd have to finish above Arsenal and Chelsea which I just can't see. Face it mate, you lot are the new Tottenham and Villa from a few years ago, chasing the 5th and 6th spot.
So let me reiterate as I'm concerned that you may not understand:
Liverpool generated more money than Everton these last five years and spent much much more money. Trophies won - none, Champions league - three seasons ago, Uefa cup appearances.
Everton - earned far less money than Liverpool, spent far far less money than Liverpool in the last 5 years
Trophies won - none, Champions league apps - none, uefa cup appearances.
So, just let me ask you to clarify so that we can all be sure, are you suggesting the fact that you played in the champions league twice in the last 5 seasons and none in the last three and the fact you are competing to finish in a uefa cup spot and in the league cup final a successful season?
Ha ha HM, I'm the same - 6 years ago I was getting paid a fairly handsome sum to play rugby, I still turn out now and get some petrol money but can't lift my head of the pillow on a Sunday because my neck is ruined. But, because I still get a sniff of playing semi pro and in the national leagues does that mean I'm still a big hitter and successful? No mate, I'm a has been, 'the older I get the better I was'. Yes I might win the odd 2nd xv merit league trophy (or league cup) but I know that only a few first team players play in that so it doesn't really get celebrated.
Well said Keioc.
Time was we used to fret about them winning leagues and european cups.
League cup ?
I say,how the mighty have fallen
Once again
you've decided to ignore the analogy that I provided.
Successful teams operate at a higher level.
It's rather quite simple why has this escaped you.
The team won an awful lot from 2000-2006 - then the team started to change. Some players moved to pastures new, others retired etc etc.
It's called rebuilding - something that the juggernauts have to do every now and again.
You comapre our stats to Everton from 2006-2011 but you don't ever state that Liverpool are 95% of the time in a better position to challenge for trophies than EFC.
Why else would Evertonians be seeking investment - for fun???
Been rebuilding for 7 years now have you?
A better position to challenge for trophies? This year is the first in how many years that you have reached a final of any kind, whist we made the FA cup final in 2009.
Utter toss.
That1s the spirit lads.
Tally Ho
Been rebuilding for 7 years now have you?
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Nope - got to CL final in 2007.
Most of the rebuilding was done post that.
In those years we still secured lucrative kit deals - sponsor and manufacturer and now we can start feeding that into the team - and here we are within 12 months of that income getting to a final straight away
Get in
Tally ho is it ?
Got to the final in 2007 ?
Surely you have been slagging the chaps orf for mentioning "getting to finals" ?
Surely you have been slagging the chaps orf for mentioning "getting to finals" ?
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but we're focusing on income and expenditure now.
that was a while ago - where on earth have you been ?
Oh yeah - blocked for chomping
As was your w... better not,you may snitch
You keep saying "we" a lot....
yes, the evidence is in the thread.
WE were talking about rebuilding and comparing income expenditure
You cherry picker you
'but we're focusing on income and expenditure now.'
Making money and making questionable moral decisions more important than winning football matches these days?
Making money and making questionable moral decisions more important than winning football matches these days?
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unfortunately money talks these days
besides, we've won far more games than you
so I win on both counts
great stuff
"those years we still secured lucrative kit deals - sponsor and manufacturer and now we can start feeding that into the team"
Now that's you talking about "we" again....who is we?
/\ artful dodger
actually, just a dodger
A simple question......who is we?
Or are we going to have to try another subject change, we hardly get anywhere when we have one....won't we all agree
A simple question......who is we?
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Liverpool. It's not uncommon for a supporter to say 'we' to represent their loyalty to a club.
Tell me, when a bitter rings up the phone in and says 'we should have won today' - do you ring in and ask who is 'we'
nice divert though
Now, back to belittling you - rookie
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posted on 8/2/12
I hate to tell you this but CL is huge money
-----------------------------------------------------
Shame you've had none of it for the last 2 years then - soon to be 3...............
posted on 8/2/12
Shame you've had none of it for the last 2 years then - soon to be 3...............
.....
Yet we're still a juggernaut
Super investment
Lucrative kit sponsor
Lucrative kit manufacturer
FFP coming in - chelsea screwed, Arsenal dont have pulling power.
United and liverpool set to thrive
posted on 8/2/12
We, who the hell is we
As if your input, watching the TV changes anything
posted on 8/2/12
/\ assumptions assumptions.
That's why beating you is easy.
Just use facts sonny jim - you might land a jab one day
posted on 9/2/12
What's the point in having all that revenue and being a juggernaut if you have nothing to show for it?
I think you should put a call in to the RAC, because it looks like your expensive juggernaut has broken down in a lay-by.
In fact while we're on an automotive theme and given recent incidents, I'm going to rename LFC as LOTUS.
Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious.
posted on 9/2/12
What's the point in having all that revenue and being a juggernaut if you have nothing to show for it?
--------
I think the last 10 years has been very good and as far as marketing is concerned then the club have managed some fantastic kit/sponsor deals.
Their epic 2005 win in Istanbul was a marketing dream.
When investors come in they don't look at immediate - they look at a plan
You have absolutely zero business/financial acumen
no surprise you're a blue
posted on 9/2/12
Still living in the past metro?
In 2005 I was playing cricket at County league level, and bowling at a fair pace. Since then my knees have given in and I can't do that any more. So I am no longer at the standard I was then.
I think it's a useful analogy.
posted on 9/2/12
Oh dear Metro lad - I feel embarassed for you. Your question was what success our little spending in the transfer market had brought us. I rightly pointed out that it basically in the last 5 years brought us the same as you - both clubs have played in competitions that neither of us have won. You've simply generated more money as played at the top table (last time was three seasons ago) and yet what have you done with that extra revenue - spent it all on players - and achieved what? You might win the league cup - winning a cup that the top teams in the premier league play their second teams in? For a club like Liverpool, with all their history, to say that winning what the best teams in the premier league now consider two bob it's a bit of a come down isn't it. That my friend is a knockout blow - your view that success is finishing fourth and a league cup final - that must really hurt - now you know how we felt in the late 80's - the thing is we've come to terms with it now - the longer you hold on the more bitter you'll become. I imagine the Liverpool fans will be leading the calls for Arry to be the next England manager in the vain hope it sends Tottenham in Free fall. Even then, you'd have to finish above Arsenal and Chelsea which I just can't see. Face it mate, you lot are the new Tottenham and Villa from a few years ago, chasing the 5th and 6th spot.
So let me reiterate as I'm concerned that you may not understand:
Liverpool generated more money than Everton these last five years and spent much much more money. Trophies won - none, Champions league - three seasons ago, Uefa cup appearances.
Everton - earned far less money than Liverpool, spent far far less money than Liverpool in the last 5 years
Trophies won - none, Champions league apps - none, uefa cup appearances.
So, just let me ask you to clarify so that we can all be sure, are you suggesting the fact that you played in the champions league twice in the last 5 seasons and none in the last three and the fact you are competing to finish in a uefa cup spot and in the league cup final a successful season?
posted on 9/2/12
Ha ha HM, I'm the same - 6 years ago I was getting paid a fairly handsome sum to play rugby, I still turn out now and get some petrol money but can't lift my head of the pillow on a Sunday because my neck is ruined. But, because I still get a sniff of playing semi pro and in the national leagues does that mean I'm still a big hitter and successful? No mate, I'm a has been, 'the older I get the better I was'. Yes I might win the odd 2nd xv merit league trophy (or league cup) but I know that only a few first team players play in that so it doesn't really get celebrated.
posted on 9/2/12
Well said Keioc.
Time was we used to fret about them winning leagues and european cups.
League cup ?
I say,how the mighty have fallen
posted on 9/2/12
Once again
you've decided to ignore the analogy that I provided.
Successful teams operate at a higher level.
It's rather quite simple why has this escaped you.
The team won an awful lot from 2000-2006 - then the team started to change. Some players moved to pastures new, others retired etc etc.
It's called rebuilding - something that the juggernauts have to do every now and again.
You comapre our stats to Everton from 2006-2011 but you don't ever state that Liverpool are 95% of the time in a better position to challenge for trophies than EFC.
Why else would Evertonians be seeking investment - for fun???
posted on 9/2/12
Been rebuilding for 7 years now have you?
A better position to challenge for trophies? This year is the first in how many years that you have reached a final of any kind, whist we made the FA cup final in 2009.
Utter toss.
posted on 9/2/12
That1s the spirit lads.
Tally Ho
posted on 9/2/12
Been rebuilding for 7 years now have you?
--------
Nope - got to CL final in 2007.
Most of the rebuilding was done post that.
In those years we still secured lucrative kit deals - sponsor and manufacturer and now we can start feeding that into the team - and here we are within 12 months of that income getting to a final straight away
Get in
Tally ho is it ?
posted on 9/2/12
Got to the final in 2007 ?
Surely you have been slagging the chaps orf for mentioning "getting to finals" ?
posted on 9/2/12
Surely you have been slagging the chaps orf for mentioning "getting to finals" ?
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but we're focusing on income and expenditure now.
that was a while ago - where on earth have you been ?
Oh yeah - blocked for chomping
posted on 9/2/12
As was your w... better not,you may snitch
posted on 9/2/12
You keep saying "we" a lot....
posted on 9/2/12
yes, the evidence is in the thread.
WE were talking about rebuilding and comparing income expenditure
You cherry picker you
posted on 9/2/12
'but we're focusing on income and expenditure now.'
Making money and making questionable moral decisions more important than winning football matches these days?
posted on 9/2/12
Making money and making questionable moral decisions more important than winning football matches these days?
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unfortunately money talks these days
besides, we've won far more games than you
so I win on both counts
great stuff
posted on 9/2/12
"those years we still secured lucrative kit deals - sponsor and manufacturer and now we can start feeding that into the team"
Now that's you talking about "we" again....who is we?
posted on 9/2/12
/\ artful dodger
actually, just a dodger
posted on 9/2/12
A simple question......who is we?
Or are we going to have to try another subject change, we hardly get anywhere when we have one....won't we all agree
posted on 9/2/12
A simple question......who is we?
--------
Liverpool. It's not uncommon for a supporter to say 'we' to represent their loyalty to a club.
Tell me, when a bitter rings up the phone in and says 'we should have won today' - do you ring in and ask who is 'we'
nice divert though
Now, back to belittling you - rookie
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