Town matches to me nowadays are just an excuse for a beer with my mates who i wouldnt normally see without going to a game. Its my hometown, My dad took me when i was a kid, I suppose it was free for a couple of years with the old "lift him over" entrance, After which it cost next to nowt, No boring seats, No having to sit down, You knew where your old man stood on the terrace, You met him at the end, In between it was a giant playground, If the game was good it was a bonus if it wasnt you had loads to do with loads of like minded kids, Sit on the wall, Hang off the fence, atop o the st johns dugout roof, If there was some bother you could join in with the rest of the terrace "go on, gerrin to em", Yoo could sit on the wall and nigh on touch Mally Brown n Burkey and getting a wink off Cowling when he took a corner, You knew him, They were Town.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Sadly now there is no swapping ends, no walkaround, no change of view and no atmosphere, No lads end and little excitement on the pitch, As has been said the players dont really give a hoot any more, Its just a wage to em till they get a bigger wage elsewhere, I dont like modern football and the only time i see a game where i think thats awesome, am green with envy is the Bundesliga, Great atmospheres and reasonable entrance prices,,, We pick and choose our away games and if i did not have a cheap season ticket i would only rarely pay the extortionate walk up price,,, As things stand, My wages are getting cut by nigh on 4k a year so unless next years prices are reasonable i will not be buying one, No doubt we will see an increase to match the increased wages we pay, Wages which are not in the real world and wages that i do not agree with. So no, am not like most of you lot, Am at a stage where i feel Towns games aint that important, Long gone are the days when i really thought we could do a "Swansea or a Watford",
brycey..
the bundesliga has never had the disasters we have had/been part of..
the "powers that be" still refuse to take the blame for the "morons" that are just now on the periphary of football...
we will always continue to "beat ourselves up" about racism and the swearing and occasional violence at football, even though compared to the rest of europe we are head and shoulders above all of them in all respects of "cleaning it all up"..
They dont have free legal systems and barristers earning fortunes just to "muddy the waters/win or lose make a sackfull of cash" who wouldnt touch most of the cases with a bargepole if it was "no win no fee for them".. We are the most tolerant society in the world but we still want to flog ourselves and find "john terry guilty" before being proved innocent etc..
We only have ourselves to blame.. we wont be standing at football for a long time, if ever, the establishment thrives on being seen to be doing something and makes gestures which lead to "false popularity" but keeps them "correct" in the eyes of the "loudest minorities"... You and I are football fans and can never be trusted any leeway at a match..
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Just goes to show what different folk get/what/expect from following Town.
I agree with alot that's said about what's wrong with football and this Town team, but come on this is a promotion chasing season. They don't come along every year (well they might if we never get there and Deano keeps pumping in the cash). There are too many seasons to recall where we had sod all to play for even at this early stage. So surely we should be enjoying it?
If we do get the promotion we all want it may be several years before we are even close to doing it again.
Blimey, I'm nearly in tears brycey...but how very true are your words..and it was a giant playground wasn't it...cowshed, main terrace or open end, you could swap and change at will..46,000 packed in for a Wolves cup tie replay one night...pork pies lobbed up and money lobbed back..brass bands playing and collection money thrown not so much into the 'sheet' as at the musicians...all good clean fun..the old magic half time scores that came up on the 'electronic scoreboard'..no segregation so you could have a right good natter with opposing fans and get the low down on what was happening..kids at the front sat on the wall...bog rolls decorating the goalnets when we scored...passion, entertainment, commitment...ah Leeds Road RIP...
Now it's synthetic and sterile...yet we do see german fans, standing on their terraces, beers in hand, happy and noisy, singing, jumping in unison...a real day out and a real match day 'experience'...
And L' Clark had the gall to say .. This was not a 'Propar' Football Club before he came here .. Let him read Bryceys Post and then
dare to open his gob again before thinking n spouting insensitive trash ..
Boooothy .. There's Positivity aplenty in You, I and indeed most of the posting fraternity on here .. It just needs the right regime and set of circumstances to release and unleash it ..
Several False Promo dawns, Reserves Closed down, Little mention or Sight of Local Academy lads coming through for us to get behind ..
Has someone at best unknowingly Ripped The Heart Out of our Club
Ah Bootsie, its not taken long for you to get back to your ' Clarky' bashing has it !
Thy hasn't said how you know our Steve, I'm very intrigued...
Clarks boasts about how much this club has improved since he arrived are approaching egomaniac levels. He takes credit for all the "off the pitch" improvements as well as on the pitch (those improvements are debatable anyway). Surely Clibbens, Hoyle, Jarvis and co should be taking some offence to this!
In case you'd not noticed Wether's thats hardly down to me anymore is it ? FACT is whilst fan dispiritedness is NOT all down to him or his inadequacies .. I think you'd agree he has much to answer for .. .. .. .. .. ..
I've come to the conclusion that it's utterly impossible to please the majority of Town fans, who come on here to have a good moan about anything and everything.
They were moaning when we were perenial mid table strugglers under the influence of "Stan the Man" and other managerial failures, and are now just as critical, if not more so, when we are a top of the table side under the Deano/Clark regime.
We finished sixth in the Table two season's back, third last season and are on course to do even better this season and are the fans happy? - are they f-cking hell as like.
My advice to Deano would be to walk away and spend his brass elsewhere and let some other mug come in and attempt the impossible - trying to appease "our impossible to please fans" who will still be looking for excuses and something to moan about, even when we have secured promotion come May.
I'll bet you lot all share the same favourite painting....
The Mona F-cking Lisa.
An artistic touch Mirf...
In 1970...when town won the 2nd Division title and got into what is now the Premier league, Blackpool were 2nd. Town and Blackpool's history is quite similar, as is the support levels and depths we have both plumbed to..am just watching them wipe the floor with Wednesday at the moment...and while they are in they championship they have had a very creditable season in the Premier League, playing great football, gaining many plaudits...so how come they can do it and we can't ?
Deano has pumped millions into this club over the years as Chairman, but LC has completely buggered it up for him, buying so many players and bringing so many in on loan, only to discard 90% of them as he struggles to understand what he is doing.
Everything is in place for Town to have lift off into greater things, but LC is the wrong man in charge...Neil Adkins, Gus Poyet, even grayson would have had us out of this league by now...he is a liability and has squandered our best opportunity in 40 odd years of hitting the heights again.
I've nowt against LC personally, I don't know the bloke, but he just doesn't cut the mustard considering the massive resources he has had available to him...If deano quites it wont be because of the fans, it'll be because LC has totally and utterly disallusioned him, spent a load of his brass and done damn all !
Neil Adkins? I'd prefare Nigel down at Southampton!
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Mirf, IF and its a big IF we go up then Clark STILL won't get any plaudits from me! We will be up inspite of him NOT because of him, in a really sick twist to our Clark conundrum, how many fans would want us to fail to go up just to get rid? Not me mate, I want to go up, but you know what I mean!
You can talk hydx with your live child!
any of u guys builders/bricklayers?
Huge difference in class from top of the championship to top of league one. Blackpool have trounced Wednesday tonight, 0-3 so far.
IF we go up,we'll need to improve big time.
MIRF..
they raised the expectation level.. dean and lee clark..
the standard of the league, in my opinion, raises the expectation level again.. the spending power of the opposition raises the expectation to silly levels..
I wouldnt expect us to beat blackpool tonight and I didnt expect us to get such a good result at arsenal etc..
I do expect us to do better than we are , in truth i expect us to win most games and draws are what we should get after trying very hard to win the game.. I dont expect loads of tame draws and draws in which we never ever played any part(tranmere) that was unforgivable..
I stick with my belief that if you pay a load more to your starting 11 and have a bench with players earning 10 grand a week warming their ars- on it, then a draw should be making the manager go red in the face with rage and the players admitting they have let the club down, not talking up the opposition and making excuses for only playing the first 20 minutes and the last 5...
When this manager and his team start playing and working hard for the full 90 minutes I might start changing my opinions.. at this time we play in little patches and the graft just isnt there often enough and for long enough...simple..
not moaning, just stating the facts, not stats...
comment by BOOOOTHY (U6194) posted 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
Surely we should be enjoying it !!!
And your so right Boooothy .. We Should !! But the acid fact is FAR TOO MANY are not .. Its not just this forum that forum or even the other .. Go to any of our games now and there seems to be more n more strained faces .. They too are puzzled as to why when we're so near the top of the league that somehow .. it Just Doesn't Feel Like that or indeed right ..
Which kinda tells you another story .. as 38 says its facts not stats
Contrast that feeling with Swindon Town fans (similarly placed) with Paulo Di Canio in command .. They Luv him to bits .. He manages the team with a smile on their face and has them playing some real exhilarating stuff .. and sorry to quote 38 again or was it Cryer .. ?
Its Just Not Rocket Science is it .. ?
A Tasty Thread title for you OR Mirf to follow this one up on might well be .. Why Aren't We Enjoying It .. Could be quite enlightening
It’s almost 58 years since I first watched Huddersfield Town. The team was in the (old) First Division. Playing in the blue and white stripes were the likes of Wheeler, Staniforth, McGarry, Quested, Kelly, (Ken) Taylor, Glazzard, Cavanagh, and Metcalfe… all of whom could “laike a bit”, as they say in the Spen Valley.
During the whole of the 60s, I maybe missed one game… due to an appendectomy! Some of you have referred to attending away games. Well, I was at Ayresome Park when Town clinched promotion to the (old) First Division on the 31st of March 1970, and at Ewood Park when they secured the (old) 2nd Division title on the 4th of April 1970. In contrast, I was at Prenton Park, on the 28th January 2012! The words ‘chalk’ and ‘cheese’ spring to mind.
During that 1969/70 promotion season, seven members of the team (Dennis Clarke, Roy Ellam, Geoff Hutt, Jimmy McGill, Jimmy Nicholson, Terry Poole and Frank Worthington) played every league match. Trevor Cherry missed 2 games, and Jimmy Lawson missed 4. Not much chopping, and very little changing!
I saw Town lose 3-0 at home to Manchester United on the 9th of October 1971, with Law, Best and Charlton getting the goals… the last time the triumvirate scored in the same game for the Red Devils.
In the winter of 1973, with Town were back in the (old) Division 2, I went to an evening game which was a boring 0-0 draw, played out on a cold, dank, misty night. Prior to the game I had had to go and pick up a baby sitter, take my wife to night school, and call for my brother, who didn’t have a car. After the game the procedure was reversed. When I finally got home, I informed my wife that I wasn’t going to any more games, as I reckoned football was dead, and it just wanted burying! She told me she would believe that when she saw it.
During the next 35 years, I went to watch Town play at Leeds Road on maybe four occasions, including the last tears-in-the-eyes game against Blackpool, when I stood with my brother on the Dalton Bank terracing.
I started going again in 2008, when my grandson expressed an interest. I couldn’t believe how poor the standard of play was. It was a shock to the system of seismic proportions! However, my grandson quite liked the sense of occasion, and I wanted him to support Town, so since then we have had season tickets. The things you do for love!
Quite frankly, I can’t see much difference between the fare that was being served up under the management of Andy Ritchie, and the dross dished out by the current regime. I still see professional footballers with very poor skills, I watch a team that appears to have no method, system, or creativity, and I ask myself… how come?
For me, it is indicative of the standard of football in the U.K., that the Wales national team was recently ranked lower than the Faroe Isles, and there appears to be such a paucity of home-grown talent north of the border that the Scottish F.A. awards a full cap to an English Third Division player whose only qualification is that he went to school in Scotland!
Where have all the players gone? Long time passing…
When Paul Lambert was at Colchester, he said, "In my day you had to paint walls, help the groundsman and even wash the manager's car but we can't ask them to do things like that anymore, and there doesn't seem to be that work ethic." Ask them! They should be b-well told!
From the BBC website 23.7.2010… “Scotland will avoid a clash of colours for next month's friendly in Stockholm… despite their new away kit being the same yellow as hosts Sweden. The Swedes will wear their own change strip… of navy blue… for the match.” That just about sums it up for me. There’s something rotten in the state of play!
cryers fav quotes were
'its not rocket science'
or ' u just couldnt make it up'
The thing I miss more than anything else from the old Leeds road days is the smell of cigars.......
Every now and again I get a whiff of a cigar and it immediately takes me back to watching Mally brown and stevey Kindon....... Happy days
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posted on 7/2/12
Town matches to me nowadays are just an excuse for a beer with my mates who i wouldnt normally see without going to a game. Its my hometown, My dad took me when i was a kid, I suppose it was free for a couple of years with the old "lift him over" entrance, After which it cost next to nowt, No boring seats, No having to sit down, You knew where your old man stood on the terrace, You met him at the end, In between it was a giant playground, If the game was good it was a bonus if it wasnt you had loads to do with loads of like minded kids, Sit on the wall, Hang off the fence, atop o the st johns dugout roof, If there was some bother you could join in with the rest of the terrace "go on, gerrin to em", Yoo could sit on the wall and nigh on touch Mally Brown n Burkey and getting a wink off Cowling when he took a corner, You knew him, They were Town.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Sadly now there is no swapping ends, no walkaround, no change of view and no atmosphere, No lads end and little excitement on the pitch, As has been said the players dont really give a hoot any more, Its just a wage to em till they get a bigger wage elsewhere, I dont like modern football and the only time i see a game where i think thats awesome, am green with envy is the Bundesliga, Great atmospheres and reasonable entrance prices,,, We pick and choose our away games and if i did not have a cheap season ticket i would only rarely pay the extortionate walk up price,,, As things stand, My wages are getting cut by nigh on 4k a year so unless next years prices are reasonable i will not be buying one, No doubt we will see an increase to match the increased wages we pay, Wages which are not in the real world and wages that i do not agree with. So no, am not like most of you lot, Am at a stage where i feel Towns games aint that important, Long gone are the days when i really thought we could do a "Swansea or a Watford",
posted on 7/2/12
brycey..
the bundesliga has never had the disasters we have had/been part of..
the "powers that be" still refuse to take the blame for the "morons" that are just now on the periphary of football...
we will always continue to "beat ourselves up" about racism and the swearing and occasional violence at football, even though compared to the rest of europe we are head and shoulders above all of them in all respects of "cleaning it all up"..
They dont have free legal systems and barristers earning fortunes just to "muddy the waters/win or lose make a sackfull of cash" who wouldnt touch most of the cases with a bargepole if it was "no win no fee for them".. We are the most tolerant society in the world but we still want to flog ourselves and find "john terry guilty" before being proved innocent etc..
We only have ourselves to blame.. we wont be standing at football for a long time, if ever, the establishment thrives on being seen to be doing something and makes gestures which lead to "false popularity" but keeps them "correct" in the eyes of the "loudest minorities"... You and I are football fans and can never be trusted any leeway at a match..
posted on 7/2/12
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posted on 7/2/12
Just goes to show what different folk get/what/expect from following Town.
I agree with alot that's said about what's wrong with football and this Town team, but come on this is a promotion chasing season. They don't come along every year (well they might if we never get there and Deano keeps pumping in the cash). There are too many seasons to recall where we had sod all to play for even at this early stage. So surely we should be enjoying it?
If we do get the promotion we all want it may be several years before we are even close to doing it again.
posted on 7/2/12
Blimey, I'm nearly in tears brycey...but how very true are your words..and it was a giant playground wasn't it...cowshed, main terrace or open end, you could swap and change at will..46,000 packed in for a Wolves cup tie replay one night...pork pies lobbed up and money lobbed back..brass bands playing and collection money thrown not so much into the 'sheet' as at the musicians...all good clean fun..the old magic half time scores that came up on the 'electronic scoreboard'..no segregation so you could have a right good natter with opposing fans and get the low down on what was happening..kids at the front sat on the wall...bog rolls decorating the goalnets when we scored...passion, entertainment, commitment...ah Leeds Road RIP...
Now it's synthetic and sterile...yet we do see german fans, standing on their terraces, beers in hand, happy and noisy, singing, jumping in unison...a real day out and a real match day 'experience'...
posted on 7/2/12
And L' Clark had the gall to say .. This was not a 'Propar' Football Club before he came here .. Let him read Bryceys Post and then
dare to open his gob again before thinking n spouting insensitive trash ..
Boooothy .. There's Positivity aplenty in You, I and indeed most of the posting fraternity on here .. It just needs the right regime and set of circumstances to release and unleash it ..
Several False Promo dawns, Reserves Closed down, Little mention or Sight of Local Academy lads coming through for us to get behind ..
Has someone at best unknowingly Ripped The Heart Out of our Club
posted on 7/2/12
Ah Bootsie, its not taken long for you to get back to your ' Clarky' bashing has it !
posted on 7/2/12
Thy hasn't said how you know our Steve, I'm very intrigued...
Clarks boasts about how much this club has improved since he arrived are approaching egomaniac levels. He takes credit for all the "off the pitch" improvements as well as on the pitch (those improvements are debatable anyway). Surely Clibbens, Hoyle, Jarvis and co should be taking some offence to this!
posted on 7/2/12
In case you'd not noticed Wether's thats hardly down to me anymore is it ? FACT is whilst fan dispiritedness is NOT all down to him or his inadequacies .. I think you'd agree he has much to answer for .. .. .. .. .. ..
posted on 7/2/12
Boots absolutley !!
posted on 7/2/12
I've come to the conclusion that it's utterly impossible to please the majority of Town fans, who come on here to have a good moan about anything and everything.
They were moaning when we were perenial mid table strugglers under the influence of "Stan the Man" and other managerial failures, and are now just as critical, if not more so, when we are a top of the table side under the Deano/Clark regime.
We finished sixth in the Table two season's back, third last season and are on course to do even better this season and are the fans happy? - are they f-cking hell as like.
My advice to Deano would be to walk away and spend his brass elsewhere and let some other mug come in and attempt the impossible - trying to appease "our impossible to please fans" who will still be looking for excuses and something to moan about, even when we have secured promotion come May.
I'll bet you lot all share the same favourite painting....
The Mona F-cking Lisa.
posted on 7/2/12
An artistic touch Mirf...
In 1970...when town won the 2nd Division title and got into what is now the Premier league, Blackpool were 2nd. Town and Blackpool's history is quite similar, as is the support levels and depths we have both plumbed to..am just watching them wipe the floor with Wednesday at the moment...and while they are in they championship they have had a very creditable season in the Premier League, playing great football, gaining many plaudits...so how come they can do it and we can't ?
Deano has pumped millions into this club over the years as Chairman, but LC has completely buggered it up for him, buying so many players and bringing so many in on loan, only to discard 90% of them as he struggles to understand what he is doing.
Everything is in place for Town to have lift off into greater things, but LC is the wrong man in charge...Neil Adkins, Gus Poyet, even grayson would have had us out of this league by now...he is a liability and has squandered our best opportunity in 40 odd years of hitting the heights again.
I've nowt against LC personally, I don't know the bloke, but he just doesn't cut the mustard considering the massive resources he has had available to him...If deano quites it wont be because of the fans, it'll be because LC has totally and utterly disallusioned him, spent a load of his brass and done damn all !
posted on 7/2/12
quits...
posted on 7/2/12
Neil Adkins? I'd prefare Nigel down at Southampton!
posted on 7/2/12
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posted on 7/2/12
Mirf, IF and its a big IF we go up then Clark STILL won't get any plaudits from me! We will be up inspite of him NOT because of him, in a really sick twist to our Clark conundrum, how many fans would want us to fail to go up just to get rid? Not me mate, I want to go up, but you know what I mean!
posted on 7/2/12
You can talk hydx with your live child!
posted on 7/2/12
any of u guys builders/bricklayers?
posted on 7/2/12
Huge difference in class from top of the championship to top of league one. Blackpool have trounced Wednesday tonight, 0-3 so far.
IF we go up,we'll need to improve big time.
posted on 7/2/12
I'm good with Lego tez.
posted on 7/2/12
MIRF..
they raised the expectation level.. dean and lee clark..
the standard of the league, in my opinion, raises the expectation level again.. the spending power of the opposition raises the expectation to silly levels..
I wouldnt expect us to beat blackpool tonight and I didnt expect us to get such a good result at arsenal etc..
I do expect us to do better than we are , in truth i expect us to win most games and draws are what we should get after trying very hard to win the game.. I dont expect loads of tame draws and draws in which we never ever played any part(tranmere) that was unforgivable..
I stick with my belief that if you pay a load more to your starting 11 and have a bench with players earning 10 grand a week warming their ars- on it, then a draw should be making the manager go red in the face with rage and the players admitting they have let the club down, not talking up the opposition and making excuses for only playing the first 20 minutes and the last 5...
When this manager and his team start playing and working hard for the full 90 minutes I might start changing my opinions.. at this time we play in little patches and the graft just isnt there often enough and for long enough...simple..
not moaning, just stating the facts, not stats...
posted on 8/2/12
comment by BOOOOTHY (U6194) posted 9 hours, 17 minutes ago
Surely we should be enjoying it !!!
And your so right Boooothy .. We Should !! But the acid fact is FAR TOO MANY are not .. Its not just this forum that forum or even the other .. Go to any of our games now and there seems to be more n more strained faces .. They too are puzzled as to why when we're so near the top of the league that somehow .. it Just Doesn't Feel Like that or indeed right ..
Which kinda tells you another story .. as 38 says its facts not stats
Contrast that feeling with Swindon Town fans (similarly placed) with Paulo Di Canio in command .. They Luv him to bits .. He manages the team with a smile on their face and has them playing some real exhilarating stuff .. and sorry to quote 38 again or was it Cryer .. ?
Its Just Not Rocket Science is it .. ?
A Tasty Thread title for you OR Mirf to follow this one up on might well be .. Why Aren't We Enjoying It .. Could be quite enlightening
posted on 8/2/12
It’s almost 58 years since I first watched Huddersfield Town. The team was in the (old) First Division. Playing in the blue and white stripes were the likes of Wheeler, Staniforth, McGarry, Quested, Kelly, (Ken) Taylor, Glazzard, Cavanagh, and Metcalfe… all of whom could “laike a bit”, as they say in the Spen Valley.
During the whole of the 60s, I maybe missed one game… due to an appendectomy! Some of you have referred to attending away games. Well, I was at Ayresome Park when Town clinched promotion to the (old) First Division on the 31st of March 1970, and at Ewood Park when they secured the (old) 2nd Division title on the 4th of April 1970. In contrast, I was at Prenton Park, on the 28th January 2012! The words ‘chalk’ and ‘cheese’ spring to mind.
During that 1969/70 promotion season, seven members of the team (Dennis Clarke, Roy Ellam, Geoff Hutt, Jimmy McGill, Jimmy Nicholson, Terry Poole and Frank Worthington) played every league match. Trevor Cherry missed 2 games, and Jimmy Lawson missed 4. Not much chopping, and very little changing!
I saw Town lose 3-0 at home to Manchester United on the 9th of October 1971, with Law, Best and Charlton getting the goals… the last time the triumvirate scored in the same game for the Red Devils.
In the winter of 1973, with Town were back in the (old) Division 2, I went to an evening game which was a boring 0-0 draw, played out on a cold, dank, misty night. Prior to the game I had had to go and pick up a baby sitter, take my wife to night school, and call for my brother, who didn’t have a car. After the game the procedure was reversed. When I finally got home, I informed my wife that I wasn’t going to any more games, as I reckoned football was dead, and it just wanted burying! She told me she would believe that when she saw it.
During the next 35 years, I went to watch Town play at Leeds Road on maybe four occasions, including the last tears-in-the-eyes game against Blackpool, when I stood with my brother on the Dalton Bank terracing.
I started going again in 2008, when my grandson expressed an interest. I couldn’t believe how poor the standard of play was. It was a shock to the system of seismic proportions! However, my grandson quite liked the sense of occasion, and I wanted him to support Town, so since then we have had season tickets. The things you do for love!
Quite frankly, I can’t see much difference between the fare that was being served up under the management of Andy Ritchie, and the dross dished out by the current regime. I still see professional footballers with very poor skills, I watch a team that appears to have no method, system, or creativity, and I ask myself… how come?
For me, it is indicative of the standard of football in the U.K., that the Wales national team was recently ranked lower than the Faroe Isles, and there appears to be such a paucity of home-grown talent north of the border that the Scottish F.A. awards a full cap to an English Third Division player whose only qualification is that he went to school in Scotland!
Where have all the players gone? Long time passing…
When Paul Lambert was at Colchester, he said, "In my day you had to paint walls, help the groundsman and even wash the manager's car but we can't ask them to do things like that anymore, and there doesn't seem to be that work ethic." Ask them! They should be b-well told!
From the BBC website 23.7.2010… “Scotland will avoid a clash of colours for next month's friendly in Stockholm… despite their new away kit being the same yellow as hosts Sweden. The Swedes will wear their own change strip… of navy blue… for the match.” That just about sums it up for me. There’s something rotten in the state of play!
posted on 8/2/12
cryers fav quotes were
'its not rocket science'
or ' u just couldnt make it up'
posted on 8/2/12
The thing I miss more than anything else from the old Leeds road days is the smell of cigars.......
Every now and again I get a whiff of a cigar and it immediately takes me back to watching Mally brown and stevey Kindon....... Happy days
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