Judge ruled that there is a scenario where they can find Mandaric guilty and Redknapp innocent but not vice versa. Spurs cannot win either way. If Harry is innocent the FA will give him the England job, if he is guilty and is given a custodial, Spurs will probably have to fire him. Sad part is the only scenario that would probably benefit THFC is if Harry is found guilty of avoiding tax but given a fine rather than a custodial since the FA couldn't employ a convicted fraudster but Levy could say everyone deserves a 2nd chance!
Scraping the bottom of the barrel I guess...

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Would we have to fire him if found guilty?

Players are found guilty of various offenses and still have a footballing career....

"Hard to see how they can get off. I run my own business and just can't see any way you could explain that kind of thing away."

The IR and courts are well used to pillocks who have little understanding of the realities of tax law, and do not see beyond the pound signs.

Arry is very lucky tis only 70K in tax (THIS time) .
He should be more worried about future IR fishing trips now (and there will be many) .

Galvin, seems you are fooled by Harrys claims of ignorance. He could stand over a dead body, with a bloody knife in his hand, screaming "die you bástard" and you would still think he was innocent...

Naive.

shortbackandsides

I really can't see him getting a sentence at all. Given the amounts we are talking about and his level of naivety business wise i think the judge, if he's found guilty, will er on the soft side. If he was a hard nosed businessman with a level of acumen he'd probably get put away but i'd have to say a custodial sentence is highly unlikely.

Big day for us spurs fans. This could either make us or break us. Just surprised no one else is making a big deal of it. This is the only article today of it's kind but rewind a few days and there were loads about us not signing a striker. Incredible. This is a HUGE day, but it's passing by without attention.

"I really can't see him getting a sentence at all"

THIS time.
Suspended sentence + FUTURE IR fishing trips ...

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I see your point RRP but isn't cheating the public purse just short of treason / killing the queen? Spurs are now hoping to raise cash for the stadium rebuild, doesn't look great that the manager is a convicted fraudster I guess. Nothing would surprise me in footy anymore, moral standards in the gutter.

BackAndSides - Fair point, but lets remember this all happened when he was in charge of Pompy, for us to suffer is harsh. When you look around the footballing world and players like Marlon King are still allowed to earn a fortune in football after his crimes...Harry's mistakes hardly seem like a firing offense to me

At the end of the day you can never predict a jury in a high profile case. The OJ Simpson trial shows that.

The jury is not the problem. The judge decides the punishment.

But the jury decides who is guilty and who is innocent...

How many here want a guilty verdict?

I hate to see it but i think we need it, just not a custodial sentence.

George Graham got sacked,and he handed the cash back,may have got away with it if he had kept quiet.

It all comes down to the nature and type of payment(s) made into the Monaco account. If as the defence suggest, it was made in good faith and agreed as money deposited to fund an investment portfolio to which HR had little or no control over then there is no charge to tax to either party other than on any gains made on such investments using the capital. However, if as the prosecution make out, the payment(s) were indeed a 'bonus' then this is classified as income chargeable to tax under UK law. 'Tis for the jury to decide the nature and type of payments made and thus the outcome.

The prosecution are hanging their hat on the NOTW's solicited comments from HR intimating it was a bonus on player transfers but given the decline and reputation of that particular media outfit, the method and commentary provided to police post Quest (in which HR declared the account voluntarily ) needs serious questioning. MM stated himself, the funds deposited were for a previously mentioned investment portfolio.....this from a man the judge acknowledge as a 'citizen of good standing' and as someone who has paid in excess of £55m to the Treasury over the years........for what it's worth, I reckon a not guilty for both and HMRC going to appeal

In current times, a conviction is necessary (justice must be seen to be done) . The form on this is that the judge will not impose a custodial due to the sums involved.

THIS time.

can't see it...prosecution case is like Swiss cheese..full of holes...throw in the fact it's taken HMRC more than 4/5 years to get the case to court and off the back of what could considered to be self incriminating and thus subjudice evidence from defendants of previous good standing....would make a mockery of justice rather than it seeing to be done...

"throw in the fact it's taken HMRC more than 4/5 years to get the case to court"

Yeah, but that is std IR prosecution machinery (notoriously slow) .

Anyway, will be :

- Surprised to see Arry off free
- Unsurprised to see a conviction + punishments up to custodial
- VERY surprised to see conviction with a custodial

Indeed...and notoriously stupid to hang on to this particular 'bone' for so long on evidence which at best is circumstantial....! Still, we'll all find out soon enough and the wumfest will begin either way

"and notoriously stupid to hang on to this particular 'bone' for so long on evidence"

That too, is classic IR behaviour.

I have no doubt the Arry tax saga has much more to tell.
But not this week.

"Before break judge told jury he was more than halfway through summing up. Looks like jury will start considering verdicts at around 1230."

Classic HMRC behaviour ....equivalent to a lion hunting down a rabbit amongst a heard of wildebeast....

Nice to converse with a fellow Spurs supporter who has seen the ways of the IR themselves (mine comes via the "IR35" legislation mainly) .