No winter breaks, we must get better facilities, clubs big or small pay fortunes in wages etc. so why can't the f.a grant them loans or whatever to buy undersoil heating.

Its 2012 not 1912, surely with todays technology its not that expensive to installs and run? I bet for the price of installation and the running costs,clubs pay more in agent fees.

You've got a fair point there Hydy.

While I'm on my soap box, how much did Fabio cappello get paid? How many systems could that have paid for?

The weather is too unpreditable. What if you have your winter break in February and the freeze comes in December. The fixture conjestion would be made 10 times worse rather than better with a winter break, same number of games with less time to play them in.

i said this on another thread recently the standard of facilities in uk is appauling from most clubs. surely somt as crucial as undersoil heating should be compulsary in professional football?

with a climate like we have^

its like walking into a shopping mall in bangkok in april 110 degrees farenheit with no air conditioning. it just wouldnt happen/be allowed.

Hydy, good point. However, like a friend of mine stated, the players are not good enough. It's not always the manager's fault, not a Crapello fan either. I blame the influx of foreign players to the premier league, our players have not improved, as promised, when the Premier League was sold to the masses!


You wouldn't have less time to play them in Boooothy, whatever the time period the break would be, it would be added to the season end.

An eight week break should cover any bad frosts.

That would mean the winter break is longer than the summer one! May as well go the whole way and make it summer football which would be excellent! Not much to look forward to in winter though.

Summer football it is then, any international tournaments to be played in the winter months in the Med!

What about this. The Premier League stays as it is with all the underground heating and facilities and not messing up the World Cup etc. But the Football League plays during the summer, football all year round, attendances would boom, everyones happy.

Obvious issues with relegation/promotion to the Premier League but sure that could be sorted.

Your all missing the point, PROMOTION, if we get up only a handfull of games get called off, lets get up, I couldn't give 2 hoots about tinpot clubs!

Its not just the'tinpot' clubs who dont have undersoil heating...Stade de France hasn't either, and that's a brand spanking new-ish Stadium.


There is enough money floating around football for the FA to get a grip(excuse the pun) of this. Calling games off because of frost in 2012 is a joke. A Winter break would not work 'cos who knows when it's going to be freezing cold..no one ! There is scope in the fixture list for several mid week games, plus teams like Stevenage who have suprisingly progressed in the FA Cup and have had several league games postponed because of this.

Sheff Utd thread will be up this afternoon...subject to the weather !!!!

Jacko

When was the last time we had a game called off at the Galph/McA ?
Exactly....we are in the wrong league, our ground is Championship, our club is championship, our fans are certainly top of the championship.....Just need a team & management team that can get us there....

Quick question...If we have summer football for the every league outside the prem, but then have the prem with a summer break, how do you get promotion from the championship into the prem? Cos when our season ends in November, you'd have to wait till the following August to join the prem???/ Not gonna work is it chaps....

Games only get called off in the crappy lgs....it's the price we have to pay for being part of them lgs for so long, i say blame Clark.

I can remember a game being called off at the last minute at the galph/Mac there was a monsoon about two hours before kick off,water logged pitch.

Can't remember who against,but I was fairly young.

The winter break, to work, would include all the leagues, including the Premier League. It could help keeping injuries down too.

No to a winter break, No to summer football, Games have always been called off and always will be when the weather is pants, What has happened to the "newspaper appeals for fans help" ? Why is straw not used anymore, At one time a lot of clubs used straw to cover the pitch providing a great insulation for the playing surface, Fans helped cover the pitch, And then helped remove it, All for the price of a ticket ! Is it simply because of the price of straw, Cos we dont produce enough anymore, Now replaced by covers that simply dont work cos they dont provide the insulation required,, Why is there no longer a call to arms to the fans ? Health and safety reasons, Just incase somebody slips and sues, Or is it because most clubs owners dont recognise their fans in the way they once did ?? Plenty of people out of work doing nothing.

I get your point LV, and agree having games called of in this day and age is confusing...
But our winter frosts can happen from any time from November through to May (at least that's what my mum used to say..don't plant in the garden till after May day)...
I think there is some advantage in having a one month winter break for to help the groundsmen a chance to bring the pitches back up to condition, and to help with mid season injuries. And most muscle tendon injuries occur on bad surfaces....
Every team needs to buy one of them solar light machines like they have at the emirates, to help the grass grow in the winter imo...just saying

The game called off for rain was against York City. By 3 o'clock the sun was out cracking the flags!

They could also recoup some money by cultivating cannabis using those very same lights Myth, A hardy variety would do ok, It would also counter act the "smoke shortage" that is about to happen in Hudd due to the mill cellar being turned over by the fuzz.

You'd have thought in this day and age that someone would have invented some kond of pitch covering material that actually works ! All this space technology that cascades down to things like teflon pans, I mean to say it's not rocket science is it !! ha ha..

Good idea that bryce....They could grow that "hawaiian gold" that bootsy seems to take, for medicinal reasons that is....