PBN
an idea i would back however not sure about the legal and practical issues?
Very unlikely to even get off the ground.
Aye adios Zico,we will miss you.
I doubt anyone here has either the legal knowledge or other to say whether it would go or not.
As a newco, the only thing preventing us joining the English F.A. without question is the fact we're in Scotland, but that is not without precedent. Plus, being part of the UK and also the financial implications Rangers would bring to the leagues, I don't see it being a dead duck.
I'd hope those with the clout to start a newco and take on Rangers, would consider it.
PBN
do you think a newco joining the english FA is dependant on scotland being part of the UK? what do you think would happen if we gained independance?
Paisley
I have posted this before, the English FA don't and won't allow any of the old firm to join the English leagues. If Rangers do start again then the only place will be Scottish 3rd division as all the clubs will vote against you going straight back into the SPL
I would be very surprised if this didn't happen, but bottom line it gas to be a fair playing field.
English league will never happen
Jinky,
You might never WANT it to happen, that doesn't mean it won't.
HenryRSC
Wee fat Salmond won't get independence, he's angling for more devolved powers and comfortable seat flying around the world meeting and greeting rich Arabs.
jinky
all clubs will vote for less tv income and gate receipts?
really?
dunfermline are friar tucked because of list cash from. 1 rangers game!
No EK, all clubs will vote to maintain the integrity of the league and trim their budgets accordingly. It will only be for 3 years and the impact of this is as yet unclear
Paisley
Be honest here do you honestly think that the English will just let you join the league with writing off your old debts
Sorry mate don't ever see this happening
Jinky
if we go newco then the english FA could not hold our previous financial dealings against us as this would have been a different company
arabian
integrity of the league??? aye very good
all chairmen will only have best interest of their own club t heart. when they vote.
no way will they write off millions as a matter of principal when majority are already on debt.
Jinky
I think you are forgetting this is a newco, although playing at Ibrox and with the history of the team behind them.
Legally they'll judge it on it's merits, and I hope we have someone looking at the arguments for it.
I would have an easier time supporting a newco if it was starting out afresh in the English leagues. We can accept the new chapter in our clubs history.
HenryRSC
Ra'cellick have been turned down umpteen times from entering said leagues. You seriously think they'll stand and wave you off at Carlisle on the justification that you went bust and they didn't? Think again.
"...Wee fat Salmond won't get independence, he's angling for more devolved powers and comfortable seat flying around the world meeting and greeting rich Arabs..."
I know a couple of guys working in Glasgow just now who he could cadge a lift off.
Wee fat Salmond won't get independence, he's angling for more devolved powers and comfortable seat flying around the world meeting and greeting rich Arabs.
That is nothing more than your opinion EK and the sums do not equate to millions. Nowhere near. ALL clubs will survive regardless of whether Rangers phoenix in division 3 and there is no precadent for a club to be voted straight back into a top division.
If you liquidate, by far the most likely outcome is starting at the bottom again. To me that seems fair as that would be the case for any other club so why should you be any different?
In effect Jinky is correct
Why would England want us now and not before.
I would love to go but only Sky COULD SWING THIS.
And they would want THEM joining us
This wont happen.
HenryRSC
Ra'cellick have been turned down umpteen times from entering said leagues. You seriously think they'll stand and wave you off at Carlisle on the justification that you went bust and they didn't? Think again
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IF we go newco and are granted entry by the english FA celtic CAN'T do a thing about it
Ekgersman
Now say the shoe was on the other foot I wouldn't expect Celtic to walk straight back into the SPL it would make a joke to all other teams, 3 years is nit that long if you keep getting promoted.as for loss of revenue I don't know as could make the league more interesting to the smaller team s playing for second or who know could give us a run for our money
Gates gave been down at other clubs because the old firm dominate if they have something to play for gates may improve
arab
its only my opinion?????. everyone else on here stating facts then?
id happily go to div 3 , and watch club after club follow us.
like it or not the spl is nothing without rangers, tv, sponsorship and ticket sales will fall, I look forwrd to your demise as you try and pay your debts off with your integrity!
HRSC
You mean other than instantly announcing their own bankruptcy? And the EFA know it.
jinky
gates are down due to a global recession and people having to prioritise there outgoings.
unfortunately football is a luxary many people now can't afford
if rangers were to go in the 3rd division and start from there do you think clubs, celtic excluded, would maintain there current pricing knowing that they would be losing revenue from 1 half of the OF?? i can't see it myself...
I posted about this before and I for one would love it to happen, especially after the way our club has been treated by other clubs.
Our league is pretty toxic anyway right now.
All the Celtic fans saying it wont happen are merely stating their opinions and hopes and not facts.
As for saying we were rejected before. Yes we were rejected before to join the top divisions also we were rejected as Rangers FC whereby UEFA and FA were against it.
However if we start as a newco we start from day one. Under no FA banner of any country or under UEFA rules of country. We could apply to join the lower leagues of England as we are a fresh start, something the Celtic fans aren't getting.
Especially as the SPL is trying to put in place retrospective punishments (What a joke, would that be acceptable in any countries courts in the world?)
I would rather work my way up the English league and leave the rest to their own devices. We would lose Europe for 3/4 years anyway and promotion chase would be fun. We would probably get the same tv as we do now for our league.
The best of it is Celtic and their fans would be raging and they could not apply to join either unless they went bust.
HRSC
You mean other than instantly announcing their own bankruptcy? And the EFA know it.
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this makes no sense....
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posted on 5/3/12
Bye
posted on 5/3/12
PBN
an idea i would back however not sure about the legal and practical issues?
posted on 5/3/12
Very unlikely to even get off the ground.
posted on 5/3/12
Aye adios Zico,we will miss you.
posted on 5/3/12
I doubt anyone here has either the legal knowledge or other to say whether it would go or not.
As a newco, the only thing preventing us joining the English F.A. without question is the fact we're in Scotland, but that is not without precedent. Plus, being part of the UK and also the financial implications Rangers would bring to the leagues, I don't see it being a dead duck.
I'd hope those with the clout to start a newco and take on Rangers, would consider it.
posted on 5/3/12
PBN
do you think a newco joining the english FA is dependant on scotland being part of the UK? what do you think would happen if we gained independance?
posted on 5/3/12
Paisley
I have posted this before, the English FA don't and won't allow any of the old firm to join the English leagues. If Rangers do start again then the only place will be Scottish 3rd division as all the clubs will vote against you going straight back into the SPL
I would be very surprised if this didn't happen, but bottom line it gas to be a fair playing field.
English league will never happen
posted on 5/3/12
Jinky,
You might never WANT it to happen, that doesn't mean it won't.
HenryRSC
Wee fat Salmond won't get independence, he's angling for more devolved powers and comfortable seat flying around the world meeting and greeting rich Arabs.
posted on 5/3/12
jinky
all clubs will vote for less tv income and gate receipts?
really?
dunfermline are friar tucked because of list cash from. 1 rangers game!
posted on 5/3/12
No EK, all clubs will vote to maintain the integrity of the league and trim their budgets accordingly. It will only be for 3 years and the impact of this is as yet unclear
posted on 5/3/12
Paisley
Be honest here do you honestly think that the English will just let you join the league with writing off your old debts
Sorry mate don't ever see this happening
posted on 5/3/12
Jinky
if we go newco then the english FA could not hold our previous financial dealings against us as this would have been a different company
posted on 5/3/12
arabian
integrity of the league??? aye very good
all chairmen will only have best interest of their own club t heart. when they vote.
no way will they write off millions as a matter of principal when majority are already on debt.
posted on 5/3/12
Jinky
I think you are forgetting this is a newco, although playing at Ibrox and with the history of the team behind them.
Legally they'll judge it on it's merits, and I hope we have someone looking at the arguments for it.
I would have an easier time supporting a newco if it was starting out afresh in the English leagues. We can accept the new chapter in our clubs history.
posted on 5/3/12
HenryRSC
Ra'cellick have been turned down umpteen times from entering said leagues. You seriously think they'll stand and wave you off at Carlisle on the justification that you went bust and they didn't? Think again.
"...Wee fat Salmond won't get independence, he's angling for more devolved powers and comfortable seat flying around the world meeting and greeting rich Arabs..."
I know a couple of guys working in Glasgow just now who he could cadge a lift off.
Wee fat Salmond won't get independence, he's angling for more devolved powers and comfortable seat flying around the world meeting and greeting rich Arabs.
posted on 5/3/12
That is nothing more than your opinion EK and the sums do not equate to millions. Nowhere near. ALL clubs will survive regardless of whether Rangers phoenix in division 3 and there is no precadent for a club to be voted straight back into a top division.
If you liquidate, by far the most likely outcome is starting at the bottom again. To me that seems fair as that would be the case for any other club so why should you be any different?
posted on 5/3/12
In effect Jinky is correct
Why would England want us now and not before.
I would love to go but only Sky COULD SWING THIS.
And they would want THEM joining us
This wont happen.
posted on 5/3/12
HenryRSC
Ra'cellick have been turned down umpteen times from entering said leagues. You seriously think they'll stand and wave you off at Carlisle on the justification that you went bust and they didn't? Think again
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IF we go newco and are granted entry by the english FA celtic CAN'T do a thing about it
posted on 5/3/12
Ekgersman
Now say the shoe was on the other foot I wouldn't expect Celtic to walk straight back into the SPL it would make a joke to all other teams, 3 years is nit that long if you keep getting promoted.as for loss of revenue I don't know as could make the league more interesting to the smaller team s playing for second or who know could give us a run for our money
Gates gave been down at other clubs because the old firm dominate if they have something to play for gates may improve
posted on 5/3/12
Nail on the head Jinky
posted on 5/3/12
arab
its only my opinion?????. everyone else on here stating facts then?
id happily go to div 3 , and watch club after club follow us.
like it or not the spl is nothing without rangers, tv, sponsorship and ticket sales will fall, I look forwrd to your demise as you try and pay your debts off with your integrity!
posted on 5/3/12
HRSC
You mean other than instantly announcing their own bankruptcy? And the EFA know it.
posted on 5/3/12
jinky
gates are down due to a global recession and people having to prioritise there outgoings.
unfortunately football is a luxary many people now can't afford
if rangers were to go in the 3rd division and start from there do you think clubs, celtic excluded, would maintain there current pricing knowing that they would be losing revenue from 1 half of the OF?? i can't see it myself...
posted on 5/3/12
I posted about this before and I for one would love it to happen, especially after the way our club has been treated by other clubs.
Our league is pretty toxic anyway right now.
All the Celtic fans saying it wont happen are merely stating their opinions and hopes and not facts.
As for saying we were rejected before. Yes we were rejected before to join the top divisions also we were rejected as Rangers FC whereby UEFA and FA were against it.
However if we start as a newco we start from day one. Under no FA banner of any country or under UEFA rules of country. We could apply to join the lower leagues of England as we are a fresh start, something the Celtic fans aren't getting.
Especially as the SPL is trying to put in place retrospective punishments (What a joke, would that be acceptable in any countries courts in the world?)
I would rather work my way up the English league and leave the rest to their own devices. We would lose Europe for 3/4 years anyway and promotion chase would be fun. We would probably get the same tv as we do now for our league.
The best of it is Celtic and their fans would be raging and they could not apply to join either unless they went bust.
posted on 5/3/12
HRSC
You mean other than instantly announcing their own bankruptcy? And the EFA know it.
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this makes no sense....
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