I don't care who we sit behind. I care about forth and that is the problem. Who occupies the spots above or below us, doesn't matter.

think if we are still in this situation next season we might have problems, we can still get 4th this season, but i think we are now relying on others to drop points and us not to, nothing wrong with most of the performances this season, just finishing has been our Achilles heal this season.

we are rebuilding a squad, we now have a better squad than before but first team needs improving, 1-2 players in key areas and quality signings and we should be back in top 4 next season, if we buy the right players, striker is a must.

4th is gone and it's all Kenny's fault.

A quality strike force and Liverpool certainly would be right in there with all the problems Arsenal and Chelsea have had this season.

An opportunity well and truly wasted.

What I'm trying to say is, that we're actually going backwards! Our performances don't mean one iota, it's results that matter and results that we will be judged and we just hav'nt been getting them.

of course our performances mean something, just means we need a clinical goal scorer and we would be better than we are now.

If we wasn't creating about 20 odd chances a game fair enough,we are going backwards, but we are, we are just not finishing them off, and with a decent striker that wouldn't be a problem.

So it's just incompetence by the manager and technical staff is it jenners, as any old Numpty could have seen that before Christmas and yet nobody was purchased in January to solve the problem?

comment by King Luis Suarez - Bellers 'anyone fancy ... (U1695)
posted 8 minutes ago
What I'm trying to say is, that we're actually going backwards! Our performances don't mean one iota, it's results that matter and results that we will be judged and we just hav'nt been getting them.
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How are we going backwards? We sit seventh, the same place we sat last season but also have a cup to our name and quarter finals of an FA Cup. That is not backwards.

King Luis Suarez - Bellers 'anyone fancy a good nightout boys, I've got some new Callaways!' (U1695)

I'm not sure you understand how football clubs work.

comment by King Luis Suarez - Bellers 'anyone fancy ... (U1695)
posted 7 minutes ago
So it's just incompetence by the manager and technical staff is it jenners, as any old Numpty could have seen that before Christmas and yet nobody was purchased in January to solve the problem?
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This is not football manager. Clubs don't just give you a wad of cash and say, go fro it bro' spend what you like, on what you like.

This is not football manager. Clubs don't just give you a wad of cash and say, go fro it bro' spend what you like, on what you like.
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Which explains the signing of Andy Carroll.

In fact last season it took us 27 games to get the point total we have this season. We now have did it in 26 games.

TOOR

Last season we had one of the worst starts to a season ever, lost arguably one of the best players in world football (at the time) and replaced him with an injured pikey. Yet we still managed to finish 6th afte a very good second half to the season.

This season we have failed to build on the momentum of the second half of last season and are being dragged down to the same level of the likes of stoke, Norwich and other teams. That's how I consider the fact that we are going backwards when I would have thought that this season we would have moved forwards!

Robbing

Please inform me how a football club should work, as I've always thought that the prime objective is to do as well as possible with the means at your disposal and after spending so much money on the Adam, Carroll, Downing, Henderson, Enrique and Suarez. Only the latter two have been any where near the quality of Liverpool players.

I want to be up there with the likes of man utd, man city, Spurs, Chelsea, and Arsenal. Not being over taken by the likes of Newcastle and dragged in to the same position as Stoke!

This is not football manager. Clubs don't just give you a wad of cash and say, go fro it bro' spend what you like, on what you like.
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Then if that's the reason we didn't sign a striker in January, we might have board level issues.
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In fact last season it took us 27 games to get the point total we have this season. We now have did it in 26 games.
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Ok, I have to correct this, it hurts me to read.

HAVE DONE not HAVE DID!!!!

In fact last season it took us 27 games to get the point total we have this season. We now have did it in 26 games.
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Hodgson wasted around 12 of those games and kenny coming back improved the performances. See what I mean?

King Luis Suarez - Bellers 'anyone fancy a good nightout boys, I've got some new Callaways!' (U1695)

For a start the manager does not decide how much to spend on players.

All managers want to spend money on strikers but it's the board who decide whether we can. You act like we did not sign a striker in Jan through stubbourness of the manager.

You are exceptionally arrogant to suggest we should not be around certain teams.

I don't think you understand what players we could bring in after finishing 7th.

I don't think you understand a lot of things.

In fact last season it took us 27 games to get the point total we have this season. We now have did it in 26 games.
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That shows how pathetic we've been in the league this season. Taking into consideration last season's start to the league and the £100m spent on players, we should be FAR better than that!

This is not football manager. Clubs don't just give you a wad of cash and say, go fro it bro' spend what you like, on what you like.
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Really? So spending £20 million on Downing was a good long term investment? No, Chelsea got a great investment in Mata for £23 million and they will always make a profit on him. Spending £20 million on Henderson was a good long term investment? Maybe, but what would have been a much better long term investment would have been getting Javi Martinez for a bit more money!

comment by King Luis Suarez - Bellers 'anyone fancy ... (U1695)
posted 6 minutes ago
TOOR

Last season we had one of the worst starts to a season ever, lost arguably one of the best players in world football (at the time) and replaced him with an injured pikey. Yet we still managed to finish 6th afte a very good second half to the season.

This season we have failed to build on the momentum of the second half of last season and are being dragged down to the same level of the likes of stoke, Norwich and other teams. That's how I consider the fact that we are going backwards when I would have thought that this season we would have moved forwards!
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Regardless of what you consider going backwards, we aren't. Put simply, we have more points than we did at this stage last year, so have went forwards having also lifted a cup and reached the quarters of another, which we were out of, at this stage last year. This is going forwards, whether it's what you consider or not.

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TOOR

LEARN HOW TO USE YOUR BLOODY TENSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

comment by Fred Bassett and Anfield Cat vs The World - Li... (U3979)
posted 10 minutes ago
This is not football manager. Clubs don't just give you a wad of cash and say, go fro it bro' spend what you like, on what you like.
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Then if that's the reason we didn't sign a striker in January, we might have board level issues.
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if you employed somebody and he bought players, some of which sit on the bench and you were losing and drawing so many games, would you then give that person more money to spend, such a short time after?

Of course you wouldn't. You'd be evaluating his/her position and would be leaving it until the end of the year, at which point you make the decision to back or sack. If you back him, then you give more funds.

It's not board issues, it's intelligence.
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In fact last season it took us 27 games to get the point total we have this season. We now have did it in 26 games.
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Ok, I have to correct this, it hurts me to read.

HAVE DONE not HAVE DID!!!!
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Cheers Fred.

Robbing

If I'm arrogant in suggesting that we should not be around the same level as Stoke and Norwich, then so be it and as for the comment.

(For a start the manager does not decide how much to spend on players. )

Maybe not but he does suggest the players and spending £20 million on Downing was a bad move who ever made it and I do think it was stubbornness of the manager hat we didn't sign a striker in jan. stubbornness to prove that Andy Carroll is good enough to play for us, when he isn't and never will be!

if you employed somebody and he bought players, some of which sit on the bench and you were losing and drawing so many games, would you then give that person more money to spend, such a short time after?

Of course you wouldn't. You'd be evaluating his/her position and would be leaving it until the end of the year, at which point you make the decision to back or sack. If you back him, then you give more funds.

It's not board issues, it's intelligence.
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Depends if you want to rectify the situation or not.

Plus we were continually told that we had money to spend.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/7457972/Ayre-Reds-have-money-to-spend

comment by Fred Bassett and Anfield Cat vs The World - Li... (U3979)
posted 8 minutes ago
In fact last season it took us 27 games to get the point total we have this season. We now have did it in 26 games.
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That shows how pathetic we've been in the league this season. Taking into consideration last season's start to the league and the £100m spent on players, we should be FAR better than that!
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We haven't actually spent 100m though have we? The way you talk it's as if we should improve to the tone of 100m but that's simply not true. We had to sell players to raise most of that 100m. We have improved and in today's market 30 odd million is not a huge amount which will improve a club, trying to break into top four.

Basically we spent money on Carroll and the rest was paid for through sales.

Our problems is not what we've spent on, or the board, it is tactics. Our tactics are poor.

TOOR

I don't care how the £100m is raised, £100m was still spent.

If you can look me in the eye and tell me the money couldn't have been better spent, then you're as deluded as the wums say we are.