just wanna gauge some overall opinion on who will leave and who we will sign
IMO
Outs:
Santa Cruz
Bridge
Adebayor
guidetti and weiss (on loan)
johnson
tevez
savic
INS
hazard
van persie/cavani
and i expect we will sign a young-ish centre back to replace savic and provide cover/challenge lescott, possibly vertonghen of ajax?
thoughts?
expected ins/outs
posted on 15/5/12
add yaya to the list of players leaving..
posted on 15/5/12
I have a gut feeling that Savic will eventually come good, it would be a waste to sell him now anyway.
I've no real interest in RVP as he obviously doesn't want to leave Arsenal.
posted on 15/5/12
Agreed on Savic Boris, hes a young player, he needs a chance, not in the deep end yet...
You with the latin name, if the tabloids were accurate we wouldn't have a squad left. The guy was quoted as saying he loved Barca and would like to finish his career there. Are you thick or sensationalist?
posted on 16/5/12
sensationalist:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7759664/Agent-Toure-open-to-offers
posted on 16/5/12
I've no problem with Savic whatsoever. Yes, he made some mistakes, but I feel that they were magnified by the attention he got as a result of Kompany's suspension and Lescott's injury (ie. people hoping/expecting him to mess up). Take the Swansea game, for example - he made one mistake to give the ball away, largely as a result of poor movement from his team-mates, and even then the danger had actually been dealt with before they scored, the goal coming in a second phase of play. Silva gave the ball away countless times in that game and no-one slated him for that.
There were also a number of games in which Savic played well, particularly the home game against Bayern Munich. I think his size is just working against him at the moment with regards to playing as centre-half, but once he's fully adjusted to the English game and has bulked up a bit he'll be fine.
Anyway, my list of ins/outs:
Outs:
Santa Cruz
Bridge
Adebayor
A.Johnson
Tevez
M.Johnson
Balotelli (too much of a distraction, not convinced he'll ever grow up despite his promises)
Ins:
Guidetti (deserves a chance now)
Hazard
A decent centre-half (not so easy, as its rare for a team to have three good centre-halfs!)
posted on 16/5/12
Getting the right CB could be a real problem as any established player isn't going to join us just to play second fiddle to Lezza and VK. We need to develop Savic and/or Boyata or look for an up and coming youngster with a bit of patience.
posted on 16/5/12
Thats why i thick Martinez would be a great purchase he can cover centre half and DM . Hargreaves as proved worthless this season and will be on his way.
posted on 16/5/12
*think
posted on 16/5/12
Agreed. Centre-halfs aren't like forwards and midfielders - you can't have a rotation policy with them, as partnership is so important. Any decent centre-half will want to play week-in, week-out, and would probably rather play regularly for a mid-table club than occasionally for a top club.
Utd are the only team I can think of who have an abundance of adequate centre-halfs. Vidic is great, Rio and Evans are good enough, and Smalling and Jones are at least half-decent. So, getting a third 'top' centre-half is wishful thinking, and we should instead work to ensure that Savic and Boyata can at least become good enough to step-in for the odd game.
posted on 16/5/12
Utd are the only team I can think of who have an abundance of adequate centre-halfs. Vidic is great, Rio and Evans are good enough, and Smalling and Jones are at least half-decent.
They are well spaced out age-wise,. barring injury or an unbelievable drop in form, Vinny is going to be one of our CB's for at least the next 6 years.