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When there's no footie there are weird and wonderful posts, of which I'm guilty.
Donc for a change we are playing Southampton away next, so on the miniscule chance all are fit, what should be team be. I've gone for 4-3-3.
So. Onana
Dalot. Shaw
De Ligt. Martinez
Mainoo, Ugarte Mason
Amad Rasmus Rashford sbubbed for Garnacho when needed.
Of course there are inferior lineups, but I suppose we better hear them.

posted on 8/9/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
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comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 8 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 42 seconds ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
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They would probably have a fair argument.
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Too early to say.
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We needed better than Hojlund but we signed another one. Nothing against Zirkzee as I’m sure he’s a half decent player but no team that has ambitions on getting back to the top puts its trust in two novice strikers when goals are already an issue.
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So who should we have signed?

Osimhen is the only striker who moved this summer who would be a clear upgrade on Hojlund or Zirkzee imo.


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It’s pointless debating these things with you as you’re deluded into thinking Zirkzee is something he’s not. When we finish this season with another record breaking low number of PL goals I’m sure you’ll find ways to excuse our dumb decision to rely on unproven youth which no club with sensible ambitions to return to the top would ever do.


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I’m not deluded. I’m just saying give the lad a chance.

If we have a remarkably low goal tally again it’s not because of who is at CF.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's not all down to the CF position but it does play a huge part.

Bruno Fernandes made the most chances in the PL last season. The reason he didn't back that up with the most assists is because we are truly terrible in front of goal so yeah strikers play a huge part.

Which of the fellow top 7 clubs would swap their forwards with ours? I don't think any of them would.
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Hojlund massively performed his xG last season. I know xG is only a guide but our lack of goals mainly wasn’t his fault.

The lack of cohesion in attack is the biggest issue. Rashford, Bruno and Garnacho as a trio behind the front man will never consistently work imo. None of those 3 can keep the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm definitely not saying it was all his fault. He wasn't always the one missing the chances afterall. Rashford Garnacho and others missed a fair few too.

Our finishing just isn't good enough and that's because we don't have elite forward players.

Villa and Newcastle have better players upfront than we do nevermind the top 3.

I think a top striker should have been a priority this summer which is why I was massively underwhelmed by signing someone who scored 1 goal every 4 games for Bologna.

Just 2 goals scored in 3 PL games so far. Haaland has 7. 😂

posted on 8/9/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 8 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 42 seconds ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They would probably have a fair argument.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Too early to say.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We needed better than Hojlund but we signed another one. Nothing against Zirkzee as I’m sure he’s a half decent player but no team that has ambitions on getting back to the top puts its trust in two novice strikers when goals are already an issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So who should we have signed?

Osimhen is the only striker who moved this summer who would be a clear upgrade on Hojlund or Zirkzee imo.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s pointless debating these things with you as you’re deluded into thinking Zirkzee is something he’s not. When we finish this season with another record breaking low number of PL goals I’m sure you’ll find ways to excuse our dumb decision to rely on unproven youth which no club with sensible ambitions to return to the top would ever do.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not deluded. I’m just saying give the lad a chance.

If we have a remarkably low goal tally again it’s not because of who is at CF.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's not all down to the CF position but it does play a huge part.

Bruno Fernandes made the most chances in the PL last season. The reason he didn't back that up with the most assists is because we are truly terrible in front of goal so yeah strikers play a huge part.

Which of the fellow top 7 clubs would swap their forwards with ours? I don't think any of them would.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hojlund massively performed his xG last season. I know xG is only a guide but our lack of goals mainly wasn’t his fault.

The lack of cohesion in attack is the biggest issue. Rashford, Bruno and Garnacho as a trio behind the front man will never consistently work imo. None of those 3 can keep the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm definitely not saying it was all his fault. He wasn't always the one missing the chances afterall. Rashford Garnacho and others missed a fair few too.

Our finishing just isn't good enough and that's because we don't have elite forward players.

Villa and Newcastle have better players upfront than we do nevermind the top 3.

I think a top striker should have been a priority this summer which is why I was massively underwhelmed by signing someone who scored 1 goal every 4 games for Bologna.

Just 2 goals scored in 3 PL games so far. Haaland has 7. 😂

----------------------------------------------------------------------

When we’ve scored just a handful of goals by Christmas people will wonder why we didn’t go out and buy a striker who can be relied to score goals. There seems to be some transfer strategy from the new team to buy Young which is great and all but even when SAF was trusting in youth he had the likes of Cantona, Keane, Bruce etc to guide them.

Even when we relied on Rooney and Ronaldo in 2006 (and Zirkzee and Hojlund deffo aren’t them) we had the likes of Larrson, Saha and Ole to share the load).

posted on 8/9/24

Zirkzee was outscored by Lukaku and Giroud in Serie A. Even Hakan Calhanoglu (midfielder) scored more

posted on 8/9/24

He was also voted YPOTY in Serie A and wasn't bought just for his scoring ability. We shouldn't be a side that is so relient on one player scoring the bulk of our goals.

posted on 8/9/24

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (U1192)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson... (U12026)
posted 9 hours, 14 minutes ago
A box to box midfielder would have been better. (Onana looking good these days). But we need a second striker who offers something different from Rasmus. Zirkzee will be fine.
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These days?
Onana doesn't look any different to last season, so far.
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Think he's talking about the Villa player mate who was just signed from Everton. Not our Onana. 😂
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Haha woops.

Yes I agree. I wouldn't even put our midfield in the top 10 in the PL. It's w@nk.
Casemiro
Eriksen
Mainoo
Ugarte
Mount

Who would fear that midfield....

posted on 8/9/24

Yes

posted on 8/9/24

comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 6 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 8 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 42 seconds ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They would probably have a fair argument.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Too early to say.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We needed better than Hojlund but we signed another one. Nothing against Zirkzee as I’m sure he’s a half decent player but no team that has ambitions on getting back to the top puts its trust in two novice strikers when goals are already an issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So who should we have signed?

Osimhen is the only striker who moved this summer who would be a clear upgrade on Hojlund or Zirkzee imo.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s pointless debating these things with you as you’re deluded into thinking Zirkzee is something he’s not. When we finish this season with another record breaking low number of PL goals I’m sure you’ll find ways to excuse our dumb decision to rely on unproven youth which no club with sensible ambitions to return to the top would ever do.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not deluded. I’m just saying give the lad a chance.

If we have a remarkably low goal tally again it’s not because of who is at CF.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's not all down to the CF position but it does play a huge part.

Bruno Fernandes made the most chances in the PL last season. The reason he didn't back that up with the most assists is because we are truly terrible in front of goal so yeah strikers play a huge part.

Which of the fellow top 7 clubs would swap their forwards with ours? I don't think any of them would.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hojlund massively performed his xG last season. I know xG is only a guide but our lack of goals mainly wasn’t his fault.

The lack of cohesion in attack is the biggest issue. Rashford, Bruno and Garnacho as a trio behind the front man will never consistently work imo. None of those 3 can keep the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm definitely not saying it was all his fault. He wasn't always the one missing the chances afterall. Rashford Garnacho and others missed a fair few too.

Our finishing just isn't good enough and that's because we don't have elite forward players.

Villa and Newcastle have better players upfront than we do nevermind the top 3.

I think a top striker should have been a priority this summer which is why I was massively underwhelmed by signing someone who scored 1 goal every 4 games for Bologna.

Just 2 goals scored in 3 PL games so far. Haaland has 7. 😂

----------------------------------------------------------------------

When we’ve scored just a handful of goals by Christmas people will wonder why we didn’t go out and buy a striker who can be relied to score goals. There seems to be some transfer strategy from the new team to buy Young which is great and all but even when SAF was trusting in youth he had the likes of Cantona, Keane, Bruce etc to guide them.

Even when we relied on Rooney and Ronaldo in 2006 (and Zirkzee and Hojlund deffo aren’t them) we had the likes of Larrson, Saha and Ole to share the load).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which reliable goal scorer could we have afforded though?

posted on 8/9/24

We will see how they develop.
Anyone remember when we signed Vidic and Evra. We were all underwhelmed at the time, and still were at Christmas. They finished as legends.

posted on 8/9/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 6 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 8 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 42 seconds ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They would probably have a fair argument.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Too early to say.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We needed better than Hojlund but we signed another one. Nothing against Zirkzee as I’m sure he’s a half decent player but no team that has ambitions on getting back to the top puts its trust in two novice strikers when goals are already an issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So who should we have signed?

Osimhen is the only striker who moved this summer who would be a clear upgrade on Hojlund or Zirkzee imo.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s pointless debating these things with you as you’re deluded into thinking Zirkzee is something he’s not. When we finish this season with another record breaking low number of PL goals I’m sure you’ll find ways to excuse our dumb decision to rely on unproven youth which no club with sensible ambitions to return to the top would ever do.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not deluded. I’m just saying give the lad a chance.

If we have a remarkably low goal tally again it’s not because of who is at CF.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's not all down to the CF position but it does play a huge part.

Bruno Fernandes made the most chances in the PL last season. The reason he didn't back that up with the most assists is because we are truly terrible in front of goal so yeah strikers play a huge part.

Which of the fellow top 7 clubs would swap their forwards with ours? I don't think any of them would.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hojlund massively performed his xG last season. I know xG is only a guide but our lack of goals mainly wasn’t his fault.

The lack of cohesion in attack is the biggest issue. Rashford, Bruno and Garnacho as a trio behind the front man will never consistently work imo. None of those 3 can keep the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm definitely not saying it was all his fault. He wasn't always the one missing the chances afterall. Rashford Garnacho and others missed a fair few too.

Our finishing just isn't good enough and that's because we don't have elite forward players.

Villa and Newcastle have better players upfront than we do nevermind the top 3.

I think a top striker should have been a priority this summer which is why I was massively underwhelmed by signing someone who scored 1 goal every 4 games for Bologna.

Just 2 goals scored in 3 PL games so far. Haaland has 7. 😂

----------------------------------------------------------------------

When we’ve scored just a handful of goals by Christmas people will wonder why we didn’t go out and buy a striker who can be relied to score goals. There seems to be some transfer strategy from the new team to buy Young which is great and all but even when SAF was trusting in youth he had the likes of Cantona, Keane, Bruce etc to guide them.

Even when we relied on Rooney and Ronaldo in 2006 (and Zirkzee and Hojlund deffo aren’t them) we had the likes of Larrson, Saha and Ole to share the load).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which reliable goal scorer could we have afforded though?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ffs Process. You want us to resign Ronaldo, we get it….

posted on 8/9/24

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 6 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 8 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 42 seconds ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

They would probably have a fair argument.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Too early to say.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We needed better than Hojlund but we signed another one. Nothing against Zirkzee as I’m sure he’s a half decent player but no team that has ambitions on getting back to the top puts its trust in two novice strikers when goals are already an issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So who should we have signed?

Osimhen is the only striker who moved this summer who would be a clear upgrade on Hojlund or Zirkzee imo.


----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s pointless debating these things with you as you’re deluded into thinking Zirkzee is something he’s not. When we finish this season with another record breaking low number of PL goals I’m sure you’ll find ways to excuse our dumb decision to rely on unproven youth which no club with sensible ambitions to return to the top would ever do.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m not deluded. I’m just saying give the lad a chance.

If we have a remarkably low goal tally again it’s not because of who is at CF.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's not all down to the CF position but it does play a huge part.

Bruno Fernandes made the most chances in the PL last season. The reason he didn't back that up with the most assists is because we are truly terrible in front of goal so yeah strikers play a huge part.

Which of the fellow top 7 clubs would swap their forwards with ours? I don't think any of them would.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hojlund massively performed his xG last season. I know xG is only a guide but our lack of goals mainly wasn’t his fault.

The lack of cohesion in attack is the biggest issue. Rashford, Bruno and Garnacho as a trio behind the front man will never consistently work imo. None of those 3 can keep the ball.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm definitely not saying it was all his fault. He wasn't always the one missing the chances afterall. Rashford Garnacho and others missed a fair few too.

Our finishing just isn't good enough and that's because we don't have elite forward players.

Villa and Newcastle have better players upfront than we do nevermind the top 3.

I think a top striker should have been a priority this summer which is why I was massively underwhelmed by signing someone who scored 1 goal every 4 games for Bologna.

Just 2 goals scored in 3 PL games so far. Haaland has 7. 😂

----------------------------------------------------------------------

When we’ve scored just a handful of goals by Christmas people will wonder why we didn’t go out and buy a striker who can be relied to score goals. There seems to be some transfer strategy from the new team to buy Young which is great and all but even when SAF was trusting in youth he had the likes of Cantona, Keane, Bruce etc to guide them.

Even when we relied on Rooney and Ronaldo in 2006 (and Zirkzee and Hojlund deffo aren’t them) we had the likes of Larrson, Saha and Ole to share the load).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which reliable goal scorer could we have afforded though?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ffs Process. You want us to resign Ronaldo, we get it….
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You got me

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