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posted on 7/9/24

Goal and assist for Zirkzee tonight. He deserves a proper chance.

comment by IAmMe (U18491)

posted on 7/9/24

One glaring and obvious error in that line-up.

Regardless of who else is in the starting line-up (or not) Dalot's inclusion is always going be a big problem for United.

posted on 7/9/24

I like Dalot

posted on 7/9/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 23 minutes ago
Goal and assist for Zirkzee tonight. He deserves a proper chance.
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I believe in Zirkzee. The chances he missed against Liverpool showed me a lot of his ability to get into space. It's better than most we have

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 7/9/24

comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 23 minutes ago
Goal and assist for Zirkzee tonight. He deserves a proper chance.
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I believe in Zirkzee. The chances he missed against Liverpool showed me a lot of his ability to get into space. It's better than most we have
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Agree, I’d rather be was missing chances than getting none, which we’ve seen with Hojlund last season.

posted on 7/9/24

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 23 minutes ago
Goal and assist for Zirkzee tonight. He deserves a proper chance.
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I believe in Zirkzee. The chances he missed against Liverpool showed me a lot of his ability to get into space. It's better than most we have
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Agree, I’d rather be was missing chances than getting none, which we’ve seen with Hojlund last season.
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True. He had 2 chances he should have scored but he hasn’t even played 2 games yet. Some almost writing him off as not good enough already which is foolish.

posted on 7/9/24

I'm certainly not writing Zirkzee off, but I'm a big fan of Rasmus
At some point I'd like to see them playing together.

posted on 7/9/24

ther cant be anybody who is seriously writing Zirkzee off right now.

posted on 7/9/24

I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.

posted on 7/9/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 42 seconds ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
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They would probably have a fair argument.

posted on 7/9/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
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thats a different argument

posted on 7/9/24

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 42 seconds ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
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They would probably have a fair argument.
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Too early to say.

posted on 7/9/24

Zirkzee needs match sharpness.

posted on 7/9/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
I'm certainly not writing Zirkzee off, but I'm a big fan of Rasmus
At some point I'd like to see them playing together.
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For that to happen who would you drop? Bruno?

posted on 7/9/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 42 seconds ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
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They would probably have a fair argument.
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Too early to say.
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We needed better than Hojlund but we signed another one. Nothing against Zirkzee as I’m sure he’s a half decent player but no team that has ambitions on getting back to the top puts its trust in two novice strikers when goals are already an issue.

posted on 8/9/24

comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 42 seconds ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
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They would probably have a fair argument.
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Too early to say.
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We needed better than Hojlund but we signed another one. Nothing against Zirkzee as I’m sure he’s a half decent player but no team that has ambitions on getting back to the top puts its trust in two novice strikers when goals are already an issue.
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So who should we have signed?

Osimhen is the only striker who moved this summer who would be a clear upgrade on Hojlund or Zirkzee imo.

posted on 8/9/24

A box to box midfielder would have been better. (Onana looking good these days). But we need a second striker who offers something different from Rasmus. Zirkzee will be fine.

posted on 8/9/24

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 42 seconds ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
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They would probably have a fair argument.
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Too early to say.
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We needed better than Hojlund but we signed another one. Nothing against Zirkzee as I’m sure he’s a half decent player but no team that has ambitions on getting back to the top puts its trust in two novice strikers when goals are already an issue.
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So who should we have signed?

Osimhen is the only striker who moved this summer who would be a clear upgrade on Hojlund or Zirkzee imo.


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It’s pointless debating these things with you as you’re deluded into thinking Zirkzee is something he’s not. When we finish this season with another record breaking low number of PL goals I’m sure you’ll find ways to excuse our dumb decision to rely on unproven youth which no club with sensible ambitions to return to the top would ever do.

posted on 8/9/24

And if you want a list of strikers we could have bought who’d be better …

Toney
Lautaro Martinez
Gyorkes
Thuram
Zapata
Vlahovic
Osimhen
Openda

And there are many more. Even if we just stuck to the players who outscored Zirkzee in Serie A we’d have a good list

posted on 8/9/24

Ten Hag won’t play Ugarte for a few weeks from the start, seems to take ages to claim new players are fit enough. Even if he’s just played internationally.

posted on 8/9/24

That's s list of who you think would be better. And probably more money.

posted on 8/9/24

Rob

And how many on that list were available for the same price as Zirkzee? Hopefully you don’t get upset again like when you blocked me the other day for laughing at your suggestion we should have bought Guehi when you’ve never mentioned his name before the Euros.

posted on 8/9/24

comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 8 hours, 38 minutes ago
And if you want a list of strikers we could have bought who’d be better …

Toney
Lautaro Martinez
Gyorkes
Thuram
Zapata
Vlahovic
Osimhen
Openda

And there are many more. Even if we just stuck to the players who outscored Zirkzee in Serie A we’d have a good list
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Toney has an average record from play. He wouldn’t have fixed our issues.

We don’t know if any of the rest of those players were for sale or affordable.

posted on 8/9/24

comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 8 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Robb Raygun (U22716)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 42 seconds ago
I’ve seen a few saying we should have signed other players instead.
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They would probably have a fair argument.
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Too early to say.
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We needed better than Hojlund but we signed another one. Nothing against Zirkzee as I’m sure he’s a half decent player but no team that has ambitions on getting back to the top puts its trust in two novice strikers when goals are already an issue.
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So who should we have signed?

Osimhen is the only striker who moved this summer who would be a clear upgrade on Hojlund or Zirkzee imo.


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It’s pointless debating these things with you as you’re deluded into thinking Zirkzee is something he’s not. When we finish this season with another record breaking low number of PL goals I’m sure you’ll find ways to excuse our dumb decision to rely on unproven youth which no club with sensible ambitions to return to the top would ever do.


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I’m not deluded. I’m just saying give the lad a chance.

If we have a remarkably low goal tally again it’s not because of who is at CF.

posted on 8/9/24

comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson... (U12026)
posted 9 hours, 14 minutes ago
A box to box midfielder would have been better. (Onana looking good these days). But we need a second striker who offers something different from Rasmus. Zirkzee will be fine.
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These days?
Onana doesn't look any different to last season, so far.

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