Therefore, i catergorically stand by the fact that people who use physical aggression in the correct way are not idiots, as T K o T suggested.

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Now there's a 'correct way' of being physically violent?
Heavens above! You couldn't make this stuff up

Chicken I think you'll find you're in the minority on this article that think's it's OK to use physical aggression against another human being as an act of masculinity.

LRG,

You're clearly getting confused with the difference between physical aggression & violence.

LRG,

If i'm in the wrong, why are you & "the majority" on the football forum, if you are all against physical aggression?



What about the rubgy board? the boxing board? & all the other sports that use physical aggression. Are they all in the wrong too?

Hey you said yourself you'd rather be punched than spat at. Would you not consider that as an act of violence? Or is that ok because the one throwing the punch is just asserting his masculinity.

There really are inconsistencies in your arguments

I stand by what I've been saying throughout this whole thread. Any bloke that feels they needs to resort to physical aggression (whether pushing, shoving, spitting etc) to try and prove how masculine they are, is an idiot.

LRG,

If i'm in the wrong, why are you & "the majority" on the football forum, if you are all against physical aggression?



What about the rubgy board? the boxing board? & all the other sports that use physical aggression. Are they all in the wrong too?

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You're confusing a contact sport with physical aggression

I don't even know why you're bringing contact sports into the conversation I think your argument is beginning to wear a bit thin

Your saying physical aggression is ok in sport, which is true, no one is arguing that. T k o t also said that in one of his comments its ok in sport. Stop acting as though we are trying to cut physical aggression out of sport, all the comments here have been made against physical aggression in real life accept in cases of self defence. I think somewhere along the line there has been a misunderstanding here

Your saying physical aggression is ok in sport, which is true, no one is arguing that. T k o t also said that in one of his comments its ok in sport. Stop acting as though we are trying to cut physical aggression out of sport, all the comments here have been made against physical aggression in real life accept in cases of self defence. I think somewhere along the line there has been a misunderstanding here

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I've also said contact in sport is fine but violence for the sake of violence is not. I'm not sure where he's got the idea that I think we could ban all contact sports

Sir Wellington I should also add that Chicken has a certain penchant for twisting other people's words to benefit his own opinion. I've seen him do it time and time again

Little_Red_Gunner,

1) Hey you said yourself you'd rather be punched than spat at.

2) You're confusing a contact sport with physical aggression.

3) I don't even know why you're bringing contact sports into the conversation

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1) Yes, i still stand by that. I would prefer neither & dont condone either.

2) You do realise a tackle of any kind or challenging for a header could be done legally in a physical aggressive manner, dont you?

3) Its because this is a sport forum. I would imagine any sport related contact is better suited on here than your personal domestic violence stories . I'd suggest you tell the Police that one instead of all members of JA606.


And sir wellingtonsilva, if you do not think LRG is wanting to cut physical aggression out of sport, you obviously haven't read her post:

"You're confusing a contact sport with physical aggression".

LRG,

If i have quoted something that is incorrect, please feel free to point it out. All the quotes i have made have been copied & pasted accordingly.

If you dont like being "wrongly quoted" then i would suggest you think about what you have written before you post it - that way i cannot wrongly quote you.

And sir wellingtonsilva, if you do not think LRG is wanting to cut physical aggression out of sport, you obviously haven't read her post:

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and Chicken if you think I do want to cut out the physical aggression in sport you obviously haven't read my post. Let me paraphrase.

Contact in sport = ok in my books
Violence for the sake of violence in sport = not ok.

I don't think I can possible make it any clearer than that. I'd ask if you needed me to spell it out for you but as we're on a forum I have to assume you can at least read my comments. Whether you actually pay any attention is another matter entirely

Chicken you're free to have your own opinion. That's one of the nice things about living in a modern society. If you want to stick by your opinion that it's fine for a man to use physical aggression as a way of asserting his masculinity (and I'm talking about outside the field of play which is where this debate originally started) then that's your prerogative.

My opinion is that any guy that thinks it's ok to be physically aggressive just to show how manly their are, is an idiot

LRG,

Let me paraphrase.

Contact in sport = ok in my books
Violence for the sake of violence in sport = not ok.

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Thats not what you put earlier at all.



You're now massively backtracking.

I already quoted you (word for word) what you just wrote. You wrote a one sentence post & it said (this is the whole quote by the way so i have not & cannot edit it). It said:

"You're confusing a contact sport with physical aggression".

Are you now saying that you didn't mean that? Or are you denying ever saying it now?

Or are you saying its okay to have contact in sport as long as its not done in an aggressive manner?

LRG,

My opinion is that any guy that thinks it's ok to be physically aggressive just to show how manly their are, is an idiot

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Again, you're massively backtracking.

Earlier in this debate you said that anyone showing physical aggression, is an idiot. You even gave the comment your thumbs up.

You are entitled to your opinion too, but i think you know you are wrong in this one but are just too stubborn to say so. You've proved this by moving the goalposts on the whole discussion.

Oh & you still haven't explained where i have mis-quoted you.

I think the difference is that our idea of physical aggression in sport is tackling ect, but you chicken seemed to condone ferguson slapping koscielney on the head, which was not the most aggressive act to be fair, but it had nothing to do with sport. You seem to think it made ferguson look masculine, we think it made him look like an idiot

sir wellingtonsilva

You seem to think it made ferguson look masculine

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Where did i ever say that?

Well you condoned it, then you state that certain types of physical aggression are masculine. It being an aggressive act that you think was ok, you can see how it looks like you think it was masculine? i didnt say you directly said it, but it appears to be what you think...

sir wellingtonsilva

you can see how it looks like you think it was masculine

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So now your argument is based upon what you think i'm thinking. Your debating skills are looking desperate.

I dont particularly condone what Ferguson did, but i certainly would not call it physically aggressive or masculine.

But, i would call what Wilshere did (cyber attacking Ferguson) as cowardly.

And that goes for anyone who attacks a fellow pro over the internet, Rio & whoever else included. I actually find the use of twitter pathetic. I appreciate that millions of people use it, so admit i'm in the minority on that one.

I dont even consider the head tapping as violence either. Playground banter, maybe - but not violence.

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So now your argument is based upon what you think i'm thinking. Your debating skills are looking desperate.

are you saying your comments dont reflect what your thinking?

sir wellingtonsilva

are you saying your comments dont reflect what your thinking?

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Well of course. But you said you were basing YOUR comments on what i was thinking, not what i was actually posting, hence i said your debating skills were looking desperate - which they are.

"Well of course. But you said you were basing YOUR comments on what i was thinking, not what i was actually posting, hence i said your debating skills were looking desperate - which they are."



cant you see the massive holes in that statement?

Guys, stick a sock in it.