I'm beginning to get dizzy with this article constantly going around in circles.
What I have been saying the entire time is that spitting, pushing, punching etc are all cowardly acts and anyone that thinks a guy that does any of these things is just showing his masculinity or is just being a bit manly is an idiot. I left contact sports completely out of it until you decided to chime in with comments about how I would suggest all contact sports should be banned.
My view, which I've stated so many times now that it's getting tedious is that contact within a contact sport is fine. It's even to be expected in a sport where tackling is involved. However violence for the sake of violence (and trying to label is as 'physical aggression' is just idiotic) is not fine.
Again you're confusing the idea of a contact sport with physical aggression and trying to draw parallels with it on and off the field of play where there shouldn't even be any.
Your idea of aggression clearly differs from my own which is why you're probably getting confused with the point I've been trying to make. I'd define aggression as anger, hatred, hostility and destructive behaviour etc...
If you want to dress it up and say it's all just part of the sport, then good for you.
P.s you can do your usual routine about my backtracking or whatever but it'll fall on deaf ears...or eyes. I'm done with this now. You're boring me
sir wellingtonsilva,
"Well of course. But you said you were basing YOUR comments on what i was thinking, not what i was actually posting, hence i said your debating skills were looking desperate - which they are."
cant you see the massive holes in that statement?
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No i cant, please explain.
LRG,
What I have been saying the entire time is that spitting, pushing, punching etc are all cowardly acts
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This is what i disagree with. I dont think pushing, punching, head tapping, or anything like that is cowardly. If it was an adult pushing, punching or head tapping a 5yr old child then yes it might be cowardly, but this wasn't.
I wouldn't say pushing, punching or head tapping one of the Klitschko brothers, for example, was cowardly. But mocking one of them over the internet would be.
And lets put this into perspective, the force used by Ferguson should never be put in the physical aggression catergory, neither was it a violent punch or push. Far more goes on in football matches, like defenders pushing strikers in the back, strikers backing into defenders - all off the ball, all of which i again do not consider violent or too physically aggressive.
If any of this stuff offends you, then i think you should find another sport.
I've thought about it & i would like to take back this comment:
"I dont think pushing, punching, head tapping, or anything like that is cowardly".
I think it could be cowardly depending on the circumstances. But i do think that mocking someone on the internet, when you had the chance to make your feelings known at the time, is cowardly.
But i reiterate, i agree that punching & pushing can be cowardly & violent, so i will take that back.
This is so pointless.
In conclusion, the broken arm, the spitting at members of the public, the inability to stand up to people who are the same size - Jack is a nasty piece of work. Well on his way to becoming the new Barton.
Some goons aren't defending him. They are merely trying to justify or 'explain' his actions in a more positive light.
Move on.
RedknappsCoat
To be fair, nobody had touched this debate since over 24 hours ago. So i think we have all moved on.
"So i think we have all moved on."
Yes we had, until coat offered his idiotic thoughts. Broken arm? did wilshere break someones arm? i think not. Did someone break their arm falling over? yes, thats it. As for the spitting there is not enough information, did wilshere spit in his face? did wilshere spit at his feet? did wilshere just spit in his general direction? the only information is that he spat towards a spurs fan who blatantly was paid to make it sound as dramatic as possible. "worst behaviour ive seen" yeah right
Wilshere spat,
Coz he is a pr.....
Just heard about this now. Well played Jack, well played.
The Adventures
So you're condoning this behaviour? We wouldn't expect anything less from you though, to be fair.
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posted on 5/7/11
I'm beginning to get dizzy with this article constantly going around in circles.
What I have been saying the entire time is that spitting, pushing, punching etc are all cowardly acts and anyone that thinks a guy that does any of these things is just showing his masculinity or is just being a bit manly is an idiot. I left contact sports completely out of it until you decided to chime in with comments about how I would suggest all contact sports should be banned.
My view, which I've stated so many times now that it's getting tedious is that contact within a contact sport is fine. It's even to be expected in a sport where tackling is involved. However violence for the sake of violence (and trying to label is as 'physical aggression' is just idiotic) is not fine.
Again you're confusing the idea of a contact sport with physical aggression and trying to draw parallels with it on and off the field of play where there shouldn't even be any.
Your idea of aggression clearly differs from my own which is why you're probably getting confused with the point I've been trying to make. I'd define aggression as anger, hatred, hostility and destructive behaviour etc...
If you want to dress it up and say it's all just part of the sport, then good for you.
posted on 5/7/11
P.s you can do your usual routine about my backtracking or whatever but it'll fall on deaf ears...or eyes. I'm done with this now. You're boring me
posted on 5/7/11
sir wellingtonsilva,
"Well of course. But you said you were basing YOUR comments on what i was thinking, not what i was actually posting, hence i said your debating skills were looking desperate - which they are."
cant you see the massive holes in that statement?
==========================
No i cant, please explain.
LRG,
What I have been saying the entire time is that spitting, pushing, punching etc are all cowardly acts
============================
This is what i disagree with. I dont think pushing, punching, head tapping, or anything like that is cowardly. If it was an adult pushing, punching or head tapping a 5yr old child then yes it might be cowardly, but this wasn't.
I wouldn't say pushing, punching or head tapping one of the Klitschko brothers, for example, was cowardly. But mocking one of them over the internet would be.
And lets put this into perspective, the force used by Ferguson should never be put in the physical aggression catergory, neither was it a violent punch or push. Far more goes on in football matches, like defenders pushing strikers in the back, strikers backing into defenders - all off the ball, all of which i again do not consider violent or too physically aggressive.
If any of this stuff offends you, then i think you should find another sport.
posted on 5/7/11
I've thought about it & i would like to take back this comment:
"I dont think pushing, punching, head tapping, or anything like that is cowardly".
I think it could be cowardly depending on the circumstances. But i do think that mocking someone on the internet, when you had the chance to make your feelings known at the time, is cowardly.
But i reiterate, i agree that punching & pushing can be cowardly & violent, so i will take that back.
posted on 6/7/11
This is so pointless.
In conclusion, the broken arm, the spitting at members of the public, the inability to stand up to people who are the same size - Jack is a nasty piece of work. Well on his way to becoming the new Barton.
Some goons aren't defending him. They are merely trying to justify or 'explain' his actions in a more positive light.
Move on.
posted on 6/7/11
RedknappsCoat
To be fair, nobody had touched this debate since over 24 hours ago. So i think we have all moved on.
posted on 6/7/11
"So i think we have all moved on."
Yes we had, until coat offered his idiotic thoughts. Broken arm? did wilshere break someones arm? i think not. Did someone break their arm falling over? yes, thats it. As for the spitting there is not enough information, did wilshere spit in his face? did wilshere spit at his feet? did wilshere just spit in his general direction? the only information is that he spat towards a spurs fan who blatantly was paid to make it sound as dramatic as possible. "worst behaviour ive seen" yeah right
posted on 6/7/11
Wilshere spat,
Coz he is a pr.....
posted on 9/7/11
Just heard about this now. Well played Jack, well played.
posted on 9/7/11
The Adventures
So you're condoning this behaviour? We wouldn't expect anything less from you though, to be fair.
posted on 9/7/11
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posted on 9/7/11
Kamran,
Oh deary me.
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