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comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
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comment by minididi (U17584)
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comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
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I remain unconvinced that this clamp-down on all of our liberties will have the desired effects.
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100% agree. I'm also concerned that we don't have a solid "exit plan" for the lockdown outside of waiting for a vaccine that may take 12-18 months. In Lombardy they've banned all outside activity (even for exercise). Has anyone even considered the long-term negative health effects of such a policy?
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Nope.

My guess is this will work the same way a fridge would to regulate its temperature...

The government will have a line where official NHS capacity gets overstretched. If the number of cases gets close to that line the government will impose social distancing measures, and more and more restrictions.

Then if the numbers go down and stabilise at a lower level for say, a month, it will start lifting restrictions, before then imposing them again as the numbers rise - hopefully at a slower rate than the first time.

Basically until a vaccine is found I expect 12-18 months of going in and out of various stages of lockdown.

There may be 5-6 breaks where pubs and restaurants and high street retailers can get some trade done. However, I think in such gaps it will be much harder to release films that really want a three month guarantee for distribution and football probably won't come back on in those spaces.

I think it is possible we wont get football again until next spring with this season becoming 2019-2021 tbh.
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That would be the most sensible option. 12-18 months of the current situation is essentially unenforceable unless an effective police state was imposed (which I don't think we have the numbers to properly carry out other than in a few main cities).

Though it would be interesting to see how disciplined people remain after each consecutive break. Also, with the amount of social contact there'd be after allowing people to socialise for the first time in 2-3 months, I wouldn't be surprised if the number of infections absolutely explode soon after social distancing measures are lifted.

If the football season is to be completed this year, I'm almost certain it'd be behind closed doors. Stadiums are essentially hotbeds for transmission and I don't think any club would want to take such a significant risk.

Hope everyone and their families are doing okay through this period

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comment by Oscar. 2019 YEAR OF THE MACK! #TeamFury (U12980)
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comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
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comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
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And war time rationing was due to there not being the resource capacity to produce enough food. That is not the issue here at all. Supemarkets just need to control and slow down the flow of outgoing stock. That should be quite easy to do if they limit all purchases to card payments only and create a database that logs purchases agst the card.

Yes it would not be full proof, but it would have some affect in slowing down the outflow of items from the stores.
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Yeah, apparently in Spain they’re not struggling with food supply on shelves, they just have really strict measures in place to control shoppers. Apparently it works that most large supermarkets have security who only allow a set number of people in the shop at any one time, keep a cap of items per person, and additionally also clean baskets and trollers after use and force people to queue 2 metres apart.


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pretty much, my mum lives in spain. They're not even allowed out the house other than to even put bins in the garbage dumpster or walk their dogs but to walk their dogs they have to fill in a form and they will get allocated a time each day once a day.

Not even allowed out for a 5 min stroll, this is the problem worse than prison and if you don't lose your mind from going stir crazy your body will end up shutting down from lack of natural air and oxygen and stimulation plus obviously not getting enough natural light etc getting it from a window or balcony isn't enough. It's unhealthy and is going to make so many of these people unhealthy.

The effects of lockdown and the effects of the economy and the world is going to be so much more severe. It will help save realistically about 25k-40k lives, but will probably end up killing 100,000 from the after effects
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I do wonder whether some countries are indeed going into ‘overkill’ with their measures to enforce lockdown. It is a very good point maybe not talked about enough from what I’ve seen that while it’s important to protect health from COVID-19 there’s also a balance with protecting other major public health/social concerns that could be a problem if too strict a lockdown is enforced. I read that Northern Italy are banning even exercising alone, is the risk:benefit for that appropriate?

I can still appreciate that this is very much a case of no one still really knows what to do and it’s unprecedented, but still striking a balance would be an important factor

Ah I see you guys were just discussing it above lol

comment by Blue in the face (U22288)
posted 4 minutes ago
Thank you Joaquin, I hope yours are doing well and likewise to everyone else on this thread.
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I've been okay overall. I was unwell last week but most of the symptoms matches a cold though, although having tinnitus because of what seems to be a sinus infection wasn't much fun.

I'm hoping to go into work tomorrow, but it's a little up in the air at the moment!

comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 15 seconds ago
Ah I see you guys were just discussing it above lol
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It's such a complicated issue and I appreciate that it puts governments in a very difficult situation. There probably isn't a "correct" answer but I feel there does need to be a lot more discussion in the media about the potential long-term effects of a lockdown (economic, physical and mental). At the moment it feels like everyone is still stuck in "war-mode". But to be fair, even during times of war, governments rarely place this level of restriction on the movement of the general public. Though, of course, it's a very different context.

Talking of effects this pandemic will have when it’s gone, do people think a lot of companies will continue to work from home? I’ve never worked in a job like that but how have people found it?

I was thinking about it and actually in this day and age, why do we need to work in an office? Everyone can get access to a computer and work from home. Make yourselves always available 9-5/whatever working hours to get things done. Video conferencing/calls when needed. Maybe get same productivity without the commuting time and office rent

comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 12 seconds ago
Talking of effects this pandemic will have when it’s gone, do people think a lot of companies will continue to work from home? I’ve never worked in a job like that but how have people found it?

I was thinking about it and actually in this day and age, why do we need to work in an office? Everyone can get access to a computer and work from home. Make yourselves always available 9-5/whatever working hours to get things done. Video conferencing/calls when needed. Maybe get same productivity without the commuting time and office rent
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Productivity would definitely be a big thing for companies to look at. I assume that if they don't plummet, they'd probably start considering allowing people to work from home on a more permanent basis. There's likely a lot of costs that can be saved by doing so. And as long as everyone has the equipment, I'd imagine video conferencing/calls would be more convenient than face-to-face meetings anyways.

England on the WUM with beer garden weather

Probably just the lack of social contact

You can defo work from home though, I’ve got everything done and I’ve just been working odd and less lol hours like 7am-9am and 5pm-7pm and a bit of 1pm-2pm

Going on middle of the day when 800 other khunts are online just makes everything slow cos of the bandwidth so cba

Tbh truth be told I could do 60% of my work on my work mobile as well

russia population of 146 million has 367 cases Lol yeh.. least make it believable

146m very sparely populated though

comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 2 minutes ago
146m very sparely populated though
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Yep, the closest areas to China are pretty much large areas of wilderness.

Apparently if you eat food with coronavirus droplets on you'll be fine because your stomach will kill it and you can't catch it that way.

Surely if we all ate a bowl of it we'd be immune from it?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5351640/pneumonia-deadly-infection-flu-trigger/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/03/hospitalisations-flu-10-fold-higher-last-year-official-figures/

So in January only 3,152 people in the UK had been hospitalised with the flu so say 5k as of now. So yeh corona is definitely a lot worse

Apparently our seafront was fackin rammed today....

🤔

https://www.instagram.com/p/B97QPGKnRfv/?igshid=1d0c56fytxo70

A bowl of corona, everyone’s favourite new breakfast cereal

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
Apparently our seafront was fackin rammed today....
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Yeh loads were yesterday as I said people need to wisen up instead of treating it as a holiday. Got 42 days of this coming and on a huge scale from Friday at the latest.

Weather don’t help, would be glad if it rained for 42 days take the option out of these mugs hands

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