Ok what about Raumdeuter? Sounds like some kind of illegal activity

Coined for Thomas Muller, means 'space investigator' in German. I first heard it on Tifo.

It's those wingers who are all about aggressive movement to the point where they could be considered a second striker from the wing.

Pedro was one

https://youtu.be/FXrPmJCT9nc?si=BSX5k6xy3sOyv0jm

Babe wake up, 9 minute footage of Cole Palmer fishing just dropped

Interesting. Could Hazard have been considered a Raumdeuter at times ?

Enzo was mostly fine at weekend, he had two crap corners and a scuffed pass in a 10 min horror show second half but I thought he was pretty good vs Brighton and was decent in other games this season. Certainly not a priority problem for me

I thought Raumdeuter meant someone who drifted centrally into positions - like Muller or (when he was good) Dele Alli — and was barely involved with the ball. Another would be Havertz.

Not by my understanding. Hazard came deep for the ball, then turned & cut inside with it. It's like he was a standard inside winger/forward but with a few playmaking characteristics.

Salah is a lot closer as he usually gets the ball higher up, but he runs at the defence a lot more than getting the last pass behind it. Sterling at City maybe but he was positioned too wide.

It's quite niche. Muller certainly & Pedro at Barcelona are the only two players who I can think of that fit what I perceive it to be.

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 8 minutes ago

I thought Raumdeuter meant someone who drifted centrally into positions - like Muller or (when he was good) Dele Alli — and was barely involved with the ball. Another would be Havertz.
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Yep although I associate it with more offensive intent. A wide player who drifts into the half space in front of the defence would be something else in my head.

comment by Our Bald Manager > Yours (U1641)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago

https://youtu.be/FXrPmJCT9nc?si=BSX5k6xy3sOyv0jm

Babe wake up, 9 minute footage of Cole Palmer fishing just dropped
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OK

What's the Disco Volante role then Devil ? Never heard of that one before today

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Our Bald Manager > Yours (U1641)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago

https://youtu.be/FXrPmJCT9nc?si=BSX5k6xy3sOyv0jm

Babe wake up, 9 minute footage of Cole Palmer fishing just dropped
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OK
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At least he’s not talking.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
I think that's what the villain's yacht in Thunderball was called
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Disco Volante...close though...

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
I think that's what the villain's yacht in Thunderball was called
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Disco Volante...close though...
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The Flying Saucer in the remake...Never say Never again...

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago

What's the Disco Volante role then Devil ? Never heard of that one before today
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Just looked up Segundo Volante's origin, it's actually as old as Thunderball, I was wrong.

Volante is basically holding player in Portuguese (translation is steering wheel). Brazil's 1970 World Cup team was the first high profile use of a second holding player, Gerson, going forward to link up with attacking moves. Segundo is second in Portuguese, ergo Segundo Volante.

It's a box to box midfielder basically

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
I think that's what the villain's yacht in Thunderball was called
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Disco Volante...close though...
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Didn't I say that lol ?

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago

What's the Disco Volante role then Devil ? Never heard of that one before today
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Just looked up Segundo Volante's origin, it's actually as old as Thunderball, I was wrong.

Volante is basically holding player in Portuguese (translation is steering wheel). Brazil's 1970 World Cup team was the first high profile use of a second holding player, Gerson, going forward to link up with attacking moves. Segundo is second in Portuguese, ergo Segundo Volante.

It's a box to box midfielder basically
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Yeah I don't think it's going to catch on here

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
I think that's what the villain's yacht in Thunderball was called
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Disco Volante...close though...
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Didn't I say that lol ?
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Yep...didnt read back

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 hours, 55 minutes ago
I think that's what the villain's yacht in Thunderball was called
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Disco Volante...close though...
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Didn't I say that lol ?
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Yep...didnt read back
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And god's honest truth I remembered it without looking it up lol. Think the Disco part is what makes it so memorable

So Cole Palmer just won the England player of the year award for 2024, despite not starting any of the Euros games. 😂

Sounds like everyone just stuck a finger up at good ol Garreth

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted about 9 hours ago
Sounds like everyone just stuck a finger up at good ol Garreth
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You are gonna get the same opportunity with Poch

I knew these cants would come knocking for Palmer at some point. Didn't realise it would be this soon though.

https://www.sportbible.com/football/la-liga/real-madrid/record-transfer-150-million-premier-league-512610-20241007

He's contracted here for many years though so they'd need to break the world transfer record and then some for us to even consider it surely.

Palmer doesn't strike me as the move to Spain type.

Yeah guy can barely speak English.

Same. Something tells me we'll be fine with Palmer, he makes Hazard look like a neurotic person