Tenez Murray himself has admitted to having an injury.
You seem to think federer is a liar.
I think that's sad.
Spurtle he's been playing himself as well as ferrer today.
Let's see how badly he wants to be a slam winner now.
tenez i feel you are being far too kind to murray. I cannot see how he would beat rafa here regardless of todays result.
Jonty yep same problem he's had all his career - playing himself. When is he going to learn to get past it?
Anyway another year another failing.
Why does he save his attacking tennis for when he's up against it?
Spittle I've always said if he doesn't take chance with Lendl then hell never win a slam.
This has to be breakthrough year and he has to control his focus to do it.
Sorry spurtle iPhone spelling!
Whatever Lendl is doing he needs to look into why Muzza has made so many unforced errors
He's not got his service strategy right today nor his match strategy.
He's lost so many second serve points he needed to take a bit off first serve to increase first serve percentage AND he needs to be more aggressive instead of waiting it puts him under pressure.
Murray needs to learn how to keep the ball in.
He's never going to win a GS but we say that every time.
You seem to think federer is a liar.
I think that's sad.
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That's a very stupid comment!
Murray is a physical player a la Djoko and Nadal, without a naturally fit body.
That's why he has been injured most of his career thus far. He put too much emphasis on his fitness and not enough on his technique.
The way he walks or even runs is so unatural. he looks like robocop at times.
Shame cause he has some good patches in his game but too much muscling the ball, not enough loose, well timed shots.
Tenez, you insist federer has an injury do you not?
You also say he was asked about injury in press conf but said he is fine.
So, are you saying he has an injury but lied in his press conference or are you saying that federer didn't lie and you are in fact wrong?
Nothing wrong with his technique it's his mental fragility/focus that is his Achilles heel.
Murray's technique is not on the same level as Federer/Nadal/Djokovic and it shows nearly every time he plays them.
However if he was to develop a mentality like Ferrer he would have a great chance in every slam. He wouldn't give up so easily and fight tooth and nail for every point. That added to his game would surely see a slam or two come his way.
His strategy is never aggressive enough though, he is far too safe and just becomes predictable. Not to mention he has at least 15 mins or so in every single match where he can barely hit a ball and just loses all ability to play the game. This is were the best players tear him to shreds.
Db completely agree with your last 2 paragraphs and partially with your first.
Yes fed and probably Nole have better technique but it's not that that is holding him back just as it wasn't noles technique that was broken through last year to see such an improvement.
Robocop! Ah, yes, perfect comparison. You can see he's making efforts to improve his forehand and to a degree it's working, but even when it looks as though it's firing there's a clunking awkwardness about it.
Jonty
Admittedly, Murray's technique is improving and his forehand has improved quite noticeably under Lendl so maybe that was a little harsh. I'm not convinced he's quite on their level but his technique would be 'enough' to win at least one or two GSs if his mentality improved. As you rightly say Djokovic's breakthrough was more mental than anything else. He feels invincible and fights to the death. Murray just doesn't do this.
Db exactly!
I believe he's got what it takes but he needs the coach to get him to focus to give him that self belief.
I support Murray because I'm a Brit, but almost felt let down in that final set.
So, are you saying he has an injury but lied in his press conference or are you saying that federer didn't lie and you are in fact wrong?
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You a wum? Keeping his cards close to his chest is not lying.
Are you calling him a liar cause in Wimby 10 he said he was "perfect" despite admitting to injuries days later?
You have lost a bot of your credibility here I am afraid.
So let me get this right, lying in a press conference is not lying?
Why can't you just accept that maybe fed is not injured and that's why he says he isn't injured.
Simples.
Yep droogle but again I think he was not fit today.
It's sad to hear that he has had this problem since December and while we were all asking why all players improve, even a 30yo Federer, we could not find a reason why Murray was stuck in his 2008 game. And I think the reson is simple, he plays a defensive, physical tennis with a frame of an attacking player a la Berdych. That puts a lot of strain on his body.
Look at Berdych, he is not scrapping right and left. If he were he would also be full of injuries.
Ok Djoko is tall too but he is thinner and much more flexible than Murray. That's why he can run right and left without having those injuries. Same for Nadal (smaller and very flexible too).
MUrray has the frame (essentially acquired) of an attacking player but is a retriever cause he has not got the guts to play his agressive game constantly.
We can see that when he does, he has great patches of aggressive games, but then it comes with 3 UEs and returns in his shell.
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posted on 6/6/12
Dreadful from Muzza.
posted on 6/6/12
Tenez Murray himself has admitted to having an injury.
You seem to think federer is a liar.
I think that's sad.
posted on 6/6/12
Spurtle he's been playing himself as well as ferrer today.
Let's see how badly he wants to be a slam winner now.
posted on 6/6/12
tenez i feel you are being far too kind to murray. I cannot see how he would beat rafa here regardless of todays result.
posted on 6/6/12
Jonty yep same problem he's had all his career - playing himself. When is he going to learn to get past it?
Anyway another year another failing.
posted on 6/6/12
Why does he save his attacking tennis for when he's up against it?
posted on 6/6/12
Spittle I've always said if he doesn't take chance with Lendl then hell never win a slam.
This has to be breakthrough year and he has to control his focus to do it.
posted on 6/6/12
Sorry spurtle iPhone spelling!
posted on 6/6/12
Whatever Lendl is doing he needs to look into why Muzza has made so many unforced errors
posted on 6/6/12
He's not got his service strategy right today nor his match strategy.
He's lost so many second serve points he needed to take a bit off first serve to increase first serve percentage AND he needs to be more aggressive instead of waiting it puts him under pressure.
posted on 6/6/12
Murray needs to learn how to keep the ball in.
posted on 6/6/12
He's never going to win a GS but we say that every time.
posted on 6/6/12
You seem to think federer is a liar.
I think that's sad.
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That's a very stupid comment!
posted on 6/6/12
Murray is a physical player a la Djoko and Nadal, without a naturally fit body.
That's why he has been injured most of his career thus far. He put too much emphasis on his fitness and not enough on his technique.
The way he walks or even runs is so unatural. he looks like robocop at times.
Shame cause he has some good patches in his game but too much muscling the ball, not enough loose, well timed shots.
posted on 6/6/12
Tenez, you insist federer has an injury do you not?
You also say he was asked about injury in press conf but said he is fine.
So, are you saying he has an injury but lied in his press conference or are you saying that federer didn't lie and you are in fact wrong?
posted on 6/6/12
Nothing wrong with his technique it's his mental fragility/focus that is his Achilles heel.
posted on 6/6/12
Murray's technique is not on the same level as Federer/Nadal/Djokovic and it shows nearly every time he plays them.
However if he was to develop a mentality like Ferrer he would have a great chance in every slam. He wouldn't give up so easily and fight tooth and nail for every point. That added to his game would surely see a slam or two come his way.
His strategy is never aggressive enough though, he is far too safe and just becomes predictable. Not to mention he has at least 15 mins or so in every single match where he can barely hit a ball and just loses all ability to play the game. This is were the best players tear him to shreds.
posted on 6/6/12
Db completely agree with your last 2 paragraphs and partially with your first.
Yes fed and probably Nole have better technique but it's not that that is holding him back just as it wasn't noles technique that was broken through last year to see such an improvement.
posted on 6/6/12
Robocop! Ah, yes, perfect comparison. You can see he's making efforts to improve his forehand and to a degree it's working, but even when it looks as though it's firing there's a clunking awkwardness about it.
posted on 6/6/12
Jonty
Admittedly, Murray's technique is improving and his forehand has improved quite noticeably under Lendl so maybe that was a little harsh. I'm not convinced he's quite on their level but his technique would be 'enough' to win at least one or two GSs if his mentality improved. As you rightly say Djokovic's breakthrough was more mental than anything else. He feels invincible and fights to the death. Murray just doesn't do this.
posted on 6/6/12
Db exactly!
I believe he's got what it takes but he needs the coach to get him to focus to give him that self belief.
posted on 6/6/12
I support Murray because I'm a Brit, but almost felt let down in that final set.
posted on 6/6/12
So, are you saying he has an injury but lied in his press conference or are you saying that federer didn't lie and you are in fact wrong?
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You a wum? Keeping his cards close to his chest is not lying.
Are you calling him a liar cause in Wimby 10 he said he was "perfect" despite admitting to injuries days later?
You have lost a bot of your credibility here I am afraid.
posted on 6/6/12
So let me get this right, lying in a press conference is not lying?
Why can't you just accept that maybe fed is not injured and that's why he says he isn't injured.
Simples.
posted on 6/6/12
Yep droogle but again I think he was not fit today.
It's sad to hear that he has had this problem since December and while we were all asking why all players improve, even a 30yo Federer, we could not find a reason why Murray was stuck in his 2008 game. And I think the reson is simple, he plays a defensive, physical tennis with a frame of an attacking player a la Berdych. That puts a lot of strain on his body.
Look at Berdych, he is not scrapping right and left. If he were he would also be full of injuries.
Ok Djoko is tall too but he is thinner and much more flexible than Murray. That's why he can run right and left without having those injuries. Same for Nadal (smaller and very flexible too).
MUrray has the frame (essentially acquired) of an attacking player but is a retriever cause he has not got the guts to play his agressive game constantly.
We can see that when he does, he has great patches of aggressive games, but then it comes with 3 UEs and returns in his shell.
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