"He does not play a role which is clearly visible. Not great defensively and not the best going forward. He can pass and keep the ball but so can million others"
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jayram is a b3llend, Nan. But you're one too unfortunately. Things balance out in life.
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If you are Dubbed, then i'll take that as a compliment
I wasn't referring to you. Relax.
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Eh? You quoted me.
Anyway, back on topic. Ibra is the best striker in the world
"He does not play a role which is clearly visible. Not great defensively and not the best going forward. He can pass and keep the ball but so can million others"
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Tell me this isn't about Wilshere.
"He does not play a role which is clearly visible.
Not great defensively and not the best going
forward. He can pass and keep the ball but so
can million others"
henrykamp is correct on this one too. I don't know why people are ripping into him. He's done nothing wrong on this thread.
This reminds of what Guardiola said a year ago:
"Wilshere is a top player. He is an excellent player, not just Arsenal, but also for the national team. [But] he is lucky because we have many players in the second team like him."
Tell me this isn't about Wilshere.
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Unfortunately I think it was - some strange, very strange, views abound.
"Eh? You quoted me."
Yes. But then I referred to henrykamp. And made a comment which was general. Trust me. If it was about you, you'd know.
"He does not play a role which is clearly visible. Not great defensively and not the best going forward. He can pass and keep the ball but so can million others"
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Tell me this isn't about Wilshere.
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What world class role does he play in our team?
right then im off and won all my debates as normal
What world class role does he play in our team?
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To remind you - no one has said he is world class.
As for the role he plays - its as a starting central midfielder in a CL team at 20 years old (he actually nailed down a starting spot at 19). He's also a starter for England when fit.
Not bad really.
jayram, you footballing genius.
Please explain to me how Wilshere is superior to Gotze. I'm aching to laugh.
Please explain to me how Wilshere is superior to Gotze. I'm aching to laugh.
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You will have to give me some time , because I am still laughing at your contribution today
Whilst I am composing myself, why dont you let me know why Gotze is so good that Wilshere is 'not fit to lace his boots'
What world class role does he play in our team?
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Okay, I'll bite. He's got unbelievable tekkers for a start which distinguishes him from 99.9999% of all English players. He can dribble past players with ease and picks out the right pass to make with consummate ease meaning he rarely concedes posession. Not only that, but he's got the vision to play those defence-splitting through balls.
Add to that that he has that touch of acceleration that distinguishes the great from the very good, and a feisty combatism to his play which is his English side shining through.
He went toe to toe with the Barcelona midfield at 19 and matched them in every aspect. If he keeps working at his game he has all the attributes to be genuinely world-class. Same as Rooney would be if he worked at his game.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Barcelona-coach-Pep-Guardiola-reckons-Arsenal-starlet-Jack-Wilshere-would-be-in-the-RESERVES-if-he-was-at-the-Spanish-giants-article711691.html
To have his size and to be as good as he is is truly amazing
I rest my case. goodnight
Guardiola trying to psyche us out before a big game? Didn't work too well as I recall.
Guardiola trying to psyche us out before a big game? Didn't work too well as I recall
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Who qualified?
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Barcelona-coach-Pep-Guardiola-reckons-Arsenal-starlet-Jack-Wilshere-would-be-in-the-RESERVES-if-he-was-at-the-Spanish-giants-article711691.html
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Have you actually seen Barcelona's midfield. Even if we were to take Guardiola's comment as gospel, which you seem to want to do as it is something for you to hang on to, being good enough to even be in Barca's set up as a midfielder at 19 years old is actually an accolade
jayram turning the tables on me. What a guy.
Ok.
Gotze:
Better dribbler
Possesses a larger array of passes
More creative
More Intelligent
Quicker
Superior technique (shooting, passing, touch, etc)
Wilshere is probably a harder worker. That's it. And strength is debatable. Though Gotze is harder to push off the ball. It's not even close.
Who qualified?
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Different point - but you seem happy about it
henrykamp - Giroud is awful
(U8418)
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It's a shame that you've scampered because that link that you posted is of little substance.
Who qualified?
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They did courtesy of Van Persie's red card. What sort of an Arsenal fan are you?
"He went toe to toe with the Barcelona midfield at 19 and matched them in every aspect. "
That's a myth.
What was impressive in that game was that he was decent. He kept things ticking. But no way did he outperform or outmatch Xavi or Iniesta. Absolute bull that is.
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posted on 24/6/12
"He does not play a role which is clearly visible. Not great defensively and not the best going forward. He can pass and keep the ball but so can million others"
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posted on 24/6/12
jayram is a b3llend, Nan. But you're one too unfortunately. Things balance out in life.
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If you are Dubbed, then i'll take that as a compliment
posted on 24/6/12
I wasn't referring to you. Relax.
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Eh? You quoted me.
posted on 24/6/12
Anyway, back on topic. Ibra is the best striker in the world
posted on 24/6/12
"He does not play a role which is clearly visible. Not great defensively and not the best going forward. He can pass and keep the ball but so can million others"
----
Tell me this isn't about Wilshere.
posted on 24/6/12
"He does not play a role which is clearly visible.
Not great defensively and not the best going
forward. He can pass and keep the ball but so
can million others"
henrykamp is correct on this one too. I don't know why people are ripping into him. He's done nothing wrong on this thread.
This reminds of what Guardiola said a year ago:
"Wilshere is a top player. He is an excellent player, not just Arsenal, but also for the national team. [But] he is lucky because we have many players in the second team like him."
posted on 24/6/12
Tell me this isn't about Wilshere.
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Unfortunately I think it was - some strange, very strange, views abound.
posted on 24/6/12
"Eh? You quoted me."
Yes. But then I referred to henrykamp. And made a comment which was general. Trust me. If it was about you, you'd know.
posted on 24/6/12
"He does not play a role which is clearly visible. Not great defensively and not the best going forward. He can pass and keep the ball but so can million others"
----
Tell me this isn't about Wilshere.
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What world class role does he play in our team?
posted on 24/6/12
right then im off and won all my debates as normal
posted on 24/6/12
What world class role does he play in our team?
--------------------------------------------------------------
To remind you - no one has said he is world class.
As for the role he plays - its as a starting central midfielder in a CL team at 20 years old (he actually nailed down a starting spot at 19). He's also a starter for England when fit.
Not bad really.
posted on 24/6/12
jayram, you footballing genius.
Please explain to me how Wilshere is superior to Gotze. I'm aching to laugh.
posted on 24/6/12
Please explain to me how Wilshere is superior to Gotze. I'm aching to laugh.
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You will have to give me some time , because I am still laughing at your contribution today
Whilst I am composing myself, why dont you let me know why Gotze is so good that Wilshere is 'not fit to lace his boots'
posted on 24/6/12
What world class role does he play in our team?
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Okay, I'll bite. He's got unbelievable tekkers for a start which distinguishes him from 99.9999% of all English players. He can dribble past players with ease and picks out the right pass to make with consummate ease meaning he rarely concedes posession. Not only that, but he's got the vision to play those defence-splitting through balls.
Add to that that he has that touch of acceleration that distinguishes the great from the very good, and a feisty combatism to his play which is his English side shining through.
He went toe to toe with the Barcelona midfield at 19 and matched them in every aspect. If he keeps working at his game he has all the attributes to be genuinely world-class. Same as Rooney would be if he worked at his game.
posted on 24/6/12
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Barcelona-coach-Pep-Guardiola-reckons-Arsenal-starlet-Jack-Wilshere-would-be-in-the-RESERVES-if-he-was-at-the-Spanish-giants-article711691.html
posted on 24/6/12
To have his size and to be as good as he is is truly amazing
posted on 24/6/12
I rest my case. goodnight
posted on 24/6/12
Guardiola trying to psyche us out before a big game? Didn't work too well as I recall.
posted on 24/6/12
Guardiola trying to psyche us out before a big game? Didn't work too well as I recall
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Who qualified?
posted on 24/6/12
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Barcelona-coach-Pep-Guardiola-reckons-Arsenal-starlet-Jack-Wilshere-would-be-in-the-RESERVES-if-he-was-at-the-Spanish-giants-article711691.html
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Have you actually seen Barcelona's midfield. Even if we were to take Guardiola's comment as gospel, which you seem to want to do as it is something for you to hang on to, being good enough to even be in Barca's set up as a midfielder at 19 years old is actually an accolade
posted on 24/6/12
jayram turning the tables on me. What a guy.
Ok.
Gotze:
Better dribbler
Possesses a larger array of passes
More creative
More Intelligent
Quicker
Superior technique (shooting, passing, touch, etc)
Wilshere is probably a harder worker. That's it. And strength is debatable. Though Gotze is harder to push off the ball. It's not even close.
posted on 24/6/12
Who qualified?
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Different point - but you seem happy about it
posted on 24/6/12
henrykamp - Giroud is awful
(U8418)
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It's a shame that you've scampered because that link that you posted is of little substance.
posted on 24/6/12
Who qualified?
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They did courtesy of Van Persie's red card. What sort of an Arsenal fan are you?
posted on 24/6/12
"He went toe to toe with the Barcelona midfield at 19 and matched them in every aspect. "
That's a myth.
What was impressive in that game was that he was decent. He kept things ticking. But no way did he outperform or outmatch Xavi or Iniesta. Absolute bull that is.
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