Personally, i see United to win it - but not my canter as our CM needs have not be addressed.
Dont really care for the remaining permutations.
"They missed chances, didn't you watch the game? They carved chelsea open on numerous occasions but were wasteful infront of goal."
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So? If we'd taken all of our chances last season, we would be champions.
That's not what the debate is about though. You said their defence was amazing, I described why it wasn't. If they were so good defensively Barca wouldn't have carved them up so easily
A good defence prevents chances, not goals.
Finishing and possibly luck make the actual goal.
Chelsea's defence allowed a lot of chances. Therefore Chelsea didn't defend well.
our park the bus against Barca still worked better than either of United's attempts to do the same
comment by redconn > (U5676)
posted 9 minutes ago
A good defence prevents chances, not goals.
Finishing and possibly luck make the actual goal.
Chelsea's defence allowed a lot of chances. Therefore Chelsea didn't defend well.
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Nail on head, agreeing with a scouser
"That's not what the debate is about though. You said their defence was amazing, I described why it wasn't. If they were so good defensively Barca wouldn't have carved them up so easily"
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Whatever, Barca and Bayern are two of the three best teams in Europe, they'd create plenty of chances against any defence in the world, Chelsea's defence shouldn't be judge based on those two games alone.
Chelsea have the best defence in the league.
Another factually incorrect statement. The best defence in the league concede the least amount of goals and that's not Chelsea.
So please stop posting rubbish. Silly me, it's Kamran
It's not that simple you idiot. I already told you, their defence was made to look average for most of last season because of AVB's tactical nativity. Stop trying to be smart with your stupid little comments, if you have no argument, quit acting like a
Going by your logic, Everton have a better defence than Arsenal and Chelsea because they conceded less goals in the league
Kamran, this may come as a shock to you but the best defence usually concede the least amount of goals. The best attack scores the most goals. The striker with the most amount of goals wins the golden boot.
it's crazy, why use information that way. Why don't they just give accolades to teams for no reason. The team that wins the league as well should be awarded before the season starts. Who cares how many points they achieve.
Why consider goals as well? Just give the 3 points to the team that looks better on paper.
You really are an idiot, by the way if Everton finished the season conceding less goals than your team did, they have a better defence. This really isn't rocket science.
You seriously can't be this stupid.
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posted on 16/7/12
Personally, i see United to win it - but not my canter as our CM needs have not be addressed.
Dont really care for the remaining permutations.
posted on 16/7/12
"They missed chances, didn't you watch the game? They carved chelsea open on numerous occasions but were wasteful infront of goal."
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So? If we'd taken all of our chances last season, we would be champions.
posted on 16/7/12
That's not what the debate is about though. You said their defence was amazing, I described why it wasn't. If they were so good defensively Barca wouldn't have carved them up so easily
posted on 16/7/12
A good defence prevents chances, not goals.
Finishing and possibly luck make the actual goal.
Chelsea's defence allowed a lot of chances. Therefore Chelsea didn't defend well.
posted on 16/7/12
our park the bus against Barca still worked better than either of United's attempts to do the same
posted on 16/7/12
comment by redconn > (U5676)
posted 9 minutes ago
A good defence prevents chances, not goals.
Finishing and possibly luck make the actual goal.
Chelsea's defence allowed a lot of chances. Therefore Chelsea didn't defend well.
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Nail on head, agreeing with a scouser
posted on 16/7/12
"That's not what the debate is about though. You said their defence was amazing, I described why it wasn't. If they were so good defensively Barca wouldn't have carved them up so easily"
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Whatever, Barca and Bayern are two of the three best teams in Europe, they'd create plenty of chances against any defence in the world, Chelsea's defence shouldn't be judge based on those two games alone.
Chelsea have the best defence in the league.
posted on 17/7/12
Another factually incorrect statement. The best defence in the league concede the least amount of goals and that's not Chelsea.
So please stop posting rubbish. Silly me, it's Kamran
posted on 17/7/12
It's not that simple you idiot. I already told you, their defence was made to look average for most of last season because of AVB's tactical nativity. Stop trying to be smart with your stupid little comments, if you have no argument, quit acting like a
Going by your logic, Everton have a better defence than Arsenal and Chelsea because they conceded less goals in the league
posted on 18/7/12
Kamran, this may come as a shock to you but the best defence usually concede the least amount of goals. The best attack scores the most goals. The striker with the most amount of goals wins the golden boot.
it's crazy, why use information that way. Why don't they just give accolades to teams for no reason. The team that wins the league as well should be awarded before the season starts. Who cares how many points they achieve.
Why consider goals as well? Just give the 3 points to the team that looks better on paper.
You really are an idiot, by the way if Everton finished the season conceding less goals than your team did, they have a better defence. This really isn't rocket science.
You seriously can't be this stupid.
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