I would love a link to these articles.

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Sure

Telegraph Article onf Contract refusal at 150k because yaya Toure had just arrived at City for 180k, and he apparently had told folks, I want some of that, lol

Man U Forum of new contract, so your fans stating the 200k a week not me.
http://community.manutd.com/forums/t/133501.aspx

Woops links to Telegraph article

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/rooney-refuses-to-sign-new-contract-at-united-2109564.html

Gonz

All RvP was asking for was the going rate for one of the best strikers in Europe.

It's not his fault that afc employ a wage policy that is financially inept.


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And I have never turned on RVP. I just dont see why Man U folk come on here saying why have we turned on him when the very same folk turned on Rooney.

Hypocracy. Yes, f3ck ing smell that shi too

They sound like your lot now.

That telegraph article states he was given a second contract offer with more money?

Hypocracy. Yes, f3ck ing smell that shi too

Did someone wee in your coffee?

That article is from before he signed anything. How does it prove you right in the slightest?

Gonz

Not sure of your point here. Rooney's situation completely different than RvP's. In any case United held on to him.

We (Arsenal) have been losing our best players year after year after year, and have not reinvested.

Had the club not wasted tens of millions on average players wages then the club may have been in a position to pay RvP the going market rate.

He doesn't need links. He lives in London and that's where all United fans, even closet ones like himself, are from.

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On your Oyster lad, Glory seeker, your the one being told the facts about your club and players from a Gooner. Poor form, expected, typical Utd fan. Surely you should be debating whether you are buying a City or Chelsea shirt this season, then be on a AFC board partaking on discussions about AFC players.

Yeah, and I am the closest utd fan, b1t ch please, I aint posting on a afc thread.

Gonz, I certainly never turned on him, I was hopeful he'd sort it out purely because of how good a footballer he is, yes there were mixed opinions, but those who slated him then still slate him now!!

Yeah, and I am the closest utd fan, b1t ch please, I aint posting on a afc thread.

You're the closest united fan?

Gonz

Not sure of your point here. Rooney's situation completely different than RvP's. In any case United held on to him.

We (Arsenal) have been losing our best players year after year after year, and have not reinvested.

Had the club not wasted tens of millions on average players wages then the club may have been in a position to pay RvP the going market rate.

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Please read my response.

"And I have never turned on RVP. I just dont see why Man U folk come on here saying why have we turned on him when the very same folk turned on Rooney.

Hypocracy. Yes, f3ck ing smell that shi too"

I am not debating about players leaving. And re-investment. hear this all the time, its getting a bit boring frankly.

AFC will never pay 200k a week, to a player, well not in the current AFC setup. We will not be held to ransom. And for that yes players will leave. Thsi is the reality, and this will not change. This same policy has won us trophys and allowed us to compete. If you want a sugar daddy owner your supporting to wrong clubs. AFC will not be like this and not be like this for the forseable future.

regardless, I will stand by wenger, and I will stand by AFC.

Gonz

We all know why afc will not compete with the elite - however the club, some fans and the board do not want change and are happy for the club to plod along as also rans.

What was the point of moving to the Emirates?

What is the sole purpose of a football club if not to win football matches?

The point is that how far does the club have to decline before it changes.

I suspect a few seasons without CL revenue will turn a few heads. Until then expect mediocracy.

That article is from before he signed anything. How does it prove you right in the slightest?


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Obvioulsy, he haded in a transfer request.

Man, do you need to learn English as well.

He refused to sign contract.

"A United spokesman said yesterday that claims Rooney was unwilling to sign a deal were "nonsense". But Rooney has 20 months to run on his current £80,000-a-week contract, becoming a free agent in June 2012, and it does seems that he has made the club aware in the past week that he does not intend to sign a new one. The new deal was expected to take his salary to around £150,000-a week, though it is understood that he has told friends that the offer is not as good as he would like. With players such as Yaya Touré arriving at Manchester City on huge sums, even the figure United are offering seem less appealing."

he then signed contract.

"the Mail on Sunday can reveal the crucial talks on Thursday and Friday between Rooney, his representatives and United centred on two areas that tipped Rooney into agreeing to a new contract worth £200,000 a week."

In between the first and second article and Transfer request had occured.

Now do I need to spell sh1 out to you. Notice the 50k difference. 150k offer, refused, and hands in transfer request. New offer mader, And he signs a 200k a week deal. Whats so hard about that????

Jezus f3cking cr1st, do you need someone to hold your kn0b while you read.

Gonz

We all know why afc will not compete with the elite - however the club, some fans and the board do not want change and are happy for the club to plod along as also rans.

What was the point of moving to the Emirates?

"More ticket sales, season tickets, and more money, for us to compete better in the FUTURE, simple economics"

What is the sole purpose of a football club if not to win football matches?

"Under wenger we have won 3 Premier League titles and 4 FA Cups, yes we havent won anything in the last 7 yrs, but the Emirates move along with finaces have and will hinder that."



The point is that how far does the club have to decline before it changes.

"Decline only the last 7 years? What about before?"


I suspect a few seasons without CL revenue will turn a few heads. Until then expect mediocracy.

"And until that happens, we can expect CL football, under wenger we have qualified year in year out"

Gooner forever.

COYG

In between the first and second article and Transfer request had occured.

Now do I need to spell sh1 out to you. Notice the 50k difference. 150k offer, refused, and hands in transfer request. New offer mader, And he signs a 200k a week deal. Whats so hard about that????
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The first and second article are from completely different sources. Neither of which actually know how much Rooney is on, because this kind of information is not disclosed. I could probably find an article that says he is on £220k a week. Which one would you believe then?

The only reliable info on this matter is that the club made clear his original contract offer and the one he eventually signed were the same.

What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)

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I wouldnt worry tooo much about AFC right now, the biggest crisis is Man U.

Glazers to float MUFC on NYSE.

Raise 400m, 200m to Debts, and 200m (Glazer family Pocketed) PARRRRRTTTTYYYYYYYY MoNAAAAYYYYYY.

200m pocketed DAMN, you can understand, fans anger.

Mind I doubt the MUFC fans on this thread will have a clue. Too busy on the AFC forum, to read MUFC articles lol

Gonz

The Emirates was sold to fans on the basis that we could compete financially with the elite.

Even after stadium debt commitments, the club post large profits year in year out. There is over £130m in the club's cash reserve and while I do not expect it to be solely used on squad development, some of it should be.

However (like many others) I suspect it is being used for the rainy day when we fail to qualify for the CL.

Where has the Queensland development money gone? Not into the squad that's for sure.

At the same time the trusted custodian's of our club sell their millions worth of shares for personal gain.

AW is still living in past glory and refuses to change his ideals both on and off the pitch - even though if they have been proven to be flawed.

If in 2006 the club found itself in the position it is now, something would have been done by now. However as the decline has been gradual many accept it as the status quo.

The first and second article are from completely different sources. Neither of which actually know how much Rooney is on, because this kind of information is not disclosed. I could probably find an article that says he is on £220k a week. Which one would you believe then?

The only reliable info on this matter is that the club made clear his original contract offer and the one he eventually signed were the same.

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Obviously they are different sources, they occured at different times, yes there are articles out there stating 220, some saying 190. Though a MUFC News Board would have thought was fairly acurate about their own club, lol.

"The only reliable info on this matter is that the club made clear his original contract offer and the one he eventually signed were the same."

If you beleive that you are deluded. And Man U are doing and saying so much to beleive that. Carry on beleiving in that.

But sorry mate, it doesnt work like that. It prob was the same contract but the money offered in it changed from one amount to an amount that was more.

Make of what you want of that, but in the black and white world, he refused to sign a contract at 150k and singed another at more. In my books that isnt the same contract, and in my books is 'holding the club to ransom, and WINNING'

Gonz

Agree that the MUFC situation is fairly dire but as a football fan I think what the Glazers are doing is disgusting.

The floatation will save MUFC circa £5m a year on interest payments. However the Glazers will use 50% of the monies raised for their own gain. Probably to refit some of their malls in Nevada.

By far the greatest team the Caymen Islands have ever seen....

Gonz, you really are quite stupid. As everybody has already told you he signed the origional contract and the Sun, Mail and the rest of the garbage papers then said he is on 200\250 a week.

What these fail to mention is this includes bonus and image right which hadn't changed from the origional offer.

What part of this do you not understand?

So you give us 2 different sources with no quotes from the club and you think you're right? Genius.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
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It's not in the cayman islands, it's in Delaware which is far shadier.

"Make of what you want of that, but in the black and white world, he refused to sign a contract at 150k and singed another at more."

See, you call me deluded for believing the club. Maybe I am, but there is no way you could possibly know that the above statement is true, is there? Which means you are merely speculating, which makes you just as deluded/stupid, no?

Gonz

The Emirates was sold to fans on the basis that we could compete financially with the elite.

Even after stadium debt commitments, the club post large profits year in year out. There is over £130m in the club's cash reserve and while I do not expect it to be solely used on squad development, some of it should be.

However (like many others) I suspect it is being used for the rainy day when we fail to qualify for the CL.

Where has the Queensland development money gone? Not into the squad that's for sure.

At the same time the trusted custodian's of our club sell their millions worth of shares for personal gain.

AW is still living in past glory and refuses to change his ideals both on and off the pitch - even though if they have been proven to be flawed.

If in 2006 the club found itself in the position it is now, something would have been done by now. However as the decline has been gradual many accept it as the status quo.

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You are stating the same things I heave been hearing for the last 3 years bud, ?

Look, I appreciate your views, those same words have been re-interated on a weekly bases mostly posted by the likes of Lowrento, etc etc week in week out for the last 3 years.

Its does get boring. I look forward and dont look back. We have 'Giroud' and 'podolski' and you might now say, well they come from poor leagues, and are not proven.

Look at AFC legends, did any of them actually or were they proven?

Henry who was a Juve reject, Fabregas a Barca B Squad boy, Adebuyor a frech unknown, Nasri the same again.

And how is the club to change? Change manager to who? AVB, Capello, Keegan? please, lol.

I dont like IG and Kronke, but he is in charge and unless he sells there is nowt we can do.