I agree until the last paragraph. We don't have a creativity problem at all. We have many players who can create, Gerrard, Johnson, Downing, Suarez, Adam....
Our problem is playing Suarez in the main striker role, which he keeps proving he isn't the type of player to do that role.
I have no doubt this will be changed for the next game and Carroll will start upfront.
We bought Borini to score goals. I was very surprised to see him play so wide. I don't know what it is with this flippin team. Everthing is made so complicated.
How many times last season did Carroll come off and Downing come on? Why is Surez played as a striker when he scores more goals out wide? Why does Henderson always get played on the right side of midfield? Why does Carra get in ahead of Coates? Why did Sterling score a great goal in the friendly and along with Pacheco look comfortable in the new system and on match day they are nowhere to be seen?
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Ok I accept Suarez playing as central striker does not work but again we are pinning too much hope on a 21 year old to score the goals too.
We bought Borini to score goals.
That was foolish.
He's a grafter, not prolific. Kuyt style
In 5 years, Gerrard has gone from giving man of the match performances almost every game to now just having 1 good game in every 4.
We were spoilt. Those days where we could rely on Gerrard to just pull on the shirt and save us are long, long gone and will never return.
I can accept that. What I can't accept is him moping around, poor body language and not doing the basics of pressing, harrying and keeping the ball.
He now only plays in fits and starts. Rogers' possession based ethic requires each player to be at it for the full 90 mins, especially in the position he is played.
A decision will soon be made by the gaffer if he sees any more performances like that from the skipper.
We have many players who can create, Gerrard, Johnson, Downing, Suarez, Adam...
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Downing.....a creator. If you say so
comment by Aggers Right Elbow And His False Nine Eating ... (U3402)
posted 14 minutes ago
We bought Borini to score goals. I was very surprised to see him play so wide. I don't know what it is with this flippin team. Everthing is made so complicated.
How many times last season did Carroll come off and Downing come on? Why is Surez played as a striker when he scores more goals out wide? Why does Henderson always get played on the right side of midfield? Why does Carra get in ahead of Coates? Why did Sterling score a great goal in the friendly and along with Pacheco look comfortable in the new system and on match day they are nowhere to be seen?
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All very good questions which baffle me also.
comment by Smalling_Jones (U13432)
posted 44 seconds ago
We have many players who can create, Gerrard, Johnson, Downing, Suarez, Adam...
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Downing.....a creator. If you say so
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Considering he is one of the top chance creators in the league and has been at the top of the chance creation stats for years, I would say yes. Wouldn't you?
Im talking about creating goals not creating new league records. 0 league assists last season....new record
Well that's what happens we a wide forward is played as a main striker, you miss chances and an assist turns to a chance created. It's not the creator's fault the finisher doesn't finish.
I just dont think any winger who plays 36 league games and finishes with 0 goals and 0 assists can be called creative
comment by Smalling_Jones (U13432)
posted 48 seconds ago
I just dont think any winger who plays 36 league games and finishes with 0 goals and 0 assists can be called creative
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I think when you create chances, one of the most in the league year after year, then the 'create' part of the sentence becomes very important in determining if somebody in fact is a creator.
People's problem with Gerrard isn't getting mark out the game or creativity. We created tons of chances which we couldn't finish. He kept giving the ball away and didn't even bother chasing to win it back.
Gerrard is just one of those players who gets the blame every time we lose.
People have seen him get us out of trouble so many times that when he doesn't do it its his fault, not the fault of other players for getting us in trouble in the first place.
Suarez (missing chances) and Skrtel (shocking dallying on the 2nd penalty) were the main culprits if people have to blame anyone.
Had we scored the first goal I have no doubt we would have won.
Had we not conceded the 2nd penalty to go 2-0 down so quickly, we might have still managed to rescue something in the last half hour only 1-0 down, albeit with 10.
comment by honestlivpool_five_times (U1661)
posted 2 minutes ago
People's problem with Gerrard isn't getting mark out the game or creativity. We created tons of chances which we couldn't finish. He kept giving the ball away and didn't even bother chasing to win it back.
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The body language and willingness to fight for the club is what is disappointing, in my opinion. His general play has been ok but his attitude hasn't and it affects his play being at the peak of what he is capable of.
Perhaps being dropped would give him the determination back.
DOwning is a lot of things but a creator is not one of them in my eyes (and everyone outside of Liverpool's eyes).
But hey, if you think he is then that's something you should hold onto
Gerrard is just one of those players who gets the blame every time we lose.
Er...cos Gerrard has more poor games than the others.
He doesn't though does he.
comment by Smalling_Jones (U13432)
posted 21 seconds ago
DOwning is a lot of things but a creator is not one of them in my eyes (and everyone outside of Liverpool's eyes).
But hey, if you think he is then that's something you should hold onto
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Can you please stop making things up? Everybody knows Downing is a creator, it's highlighted by the fact he is always close to the top in terms of CREATION stats. Just because you're a bit dim, doesn't mean everybody agrees with you, it only means you have a problem understanding the meaning of the word creator. I'll give you the short and easy meaning, it's a person who creates, ie Downing, who creating over 60 chances last season and has been at the top in terms of creation(there's that word again) for years now. In fact, it's his job, if he didn't have that, he wouldn't be a top player as he doesn't excel at much else.
Personally I don't think Downing is close to Liverpool quality and I don't think he's creative. The guy is literally scared of the ball. Players normally want to have the ball but he always wants to get rid of the ball.
It's not about thinking he's created as there's nothing to think, it's a fact that he's creative. A quick Google search can help you out, if you can't see it for yourself.
As I said earlier, he turns up in 1 in 4 games. OK that one game he is usually outstanding but he does go missing all too frequently now. Our new manager will not want that.
Possession based football is about all 11 players (keeper included) coming to the party and playing. Central midfielders disappearing and giving the ball away needlessly is not on Brendan's agenda.
Gerrards role is to play the AM role so it's not entirely his job to run back when we have 2 sitters protecting. That Agger red card incident happened so quick that even if Gerrard was 25 and sprinted back he would have been no where near the play.
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posted on 19/8/12
I agree until the last paragraph. We don't have a creativity problem at all. We have many players who can create, Gerrard, Johnson, Downing, Suarez, Adam....
Our problem is playing Suarez in the main striker role, which he keeps proving he isn't the type of player to do that role.
I have no doubt this will be changed for the next game and Carroll will start upfront.
posted on 19/8/12
his name is Yacob.
posted on 19/8/12
We bought Borini to score goals. I was very surprised to see him play so wide. I don't know what it is with this flippin team. Everthing is made so complicated.
How many times last season did Carroll come off and Downing come on? Why is Surez played as a striker when he scores more goals out wide? Why does Henderson always get played on the right side of midfield? Why does Carra get in ahead of Coates? Why did Sterling score a great goal in the friendly and along with Pacheco look comfortable in the new system and on match day they are nowhere to be seen?
posted on 19/8/12
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posted on 19/8/12
Ok I accept Suarez playing as central striker does not work but again we are pinning too much hope on a 21 year old to score the goals too.
posted on 19/8/12
We bought Borini to score goals.
That was foolish.
He's a grafter, not prolific. Kuyt style
posted on 19/8/12
In 5 years, Gerrard has gone from giving man of the match performances almost every game to now just having 1 good game in every 4.
We were spoilt. Those days where we could rely on Gerrard to just pull on the shirt and save us are long, long gone and will never return.
I can accept that. What I can't accept is him moping around, poor body language and not doing the basics of pressing, harrying and keeping the ball.
He now only plays in fits and starts. Rogers' possession based ethic requires each player to be at it for the full 90 mins, especially in the position he is played.
A decision will soon be made by the gaffer if he sees any more performances like that from the skipper.
posted on 19/8/12
We have many players who can create, Gerrard, Johnson, Downing, Suarez, Adam...
___________________________
Downing.....a creator. If you say so
posted on 19/8/12
comment by Aggers Right Elbow And His False Nine Eating ... (U3402)
posted 14 minutes ago
We bought Borini to score goals. I was very surprised to see him play so wide. I don't know what it is with this flippin team. Everthing is made so complicated.
How many times last season did Carroll come off and Downing come on? Why is Surez played as a striker when he scores more goals out wide? Why does Henderson always get played on the right side of midfield? Why does Carra get in ahead of Coates? Why did Sterling score a great goal in the friendly and along with Pacheco look comfortable in the new system and on match day they are nowhere to be seen?
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All very good questions which baffle me also.
posted on 19/8/12
comment by Smalling_Jones (U13432)
posted 44 seconds ago
We have many players who can create, Gerrard, Johnson, Downing, Suarez, Adam...
___________________________
Downing.....a creator. If you say so
---------------------------------------------
Considering he is one of the top chance creators in the league and has been at the top of the chance creation stats for years, I would say yes. Wouldn't you?
posted on 19/8/12
Im talking about creating goals not creating new league records. 0 league assists last season....new record
posted on 19/8/12
Well that's what happens we a wide forward is played as a main striker, you miss chances and an assist turns to a chance created. It's not the creator's fault the finisher doesn't finish.
posted on 19/8/12
I just dont think any winger who plays 36 league games and finishes with 0 goals and 0 assists can be called creative
posted on 19/8/12
comment by Smalling_Jones (U13432)
posted 48 seconds ago
I just dont think any winger who plays 36 league games and finishes with 0 goals and 0 assists can be called creative
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I think when you create chances, one of the most in the league year after year, then the 'create' part of the sentence becomes very important in determining if somebody in fact is a creator.
posted on 19/8/12
People's problem with Gerrard isn't getting mark out the game or creativity. We created tons of chances which we couldn't finish. He kept giving the ball away and didn't even bother chasing to win it back.
posted on 19/8/12
Gerrard is just one of those players who gets the blame every time we lose.
People have seen him get us out of trouble so many times that when he doesn't do it its his fault, not the fault of other players for getting us in trouble in the first place.
Suarez (missing chances) and Skrtel (shocking dallying on the 2nd penalty) were the main culprits if people have to blame anyone.
Had we scored the first goal I have no doubt we would have won.
Had we not conceded the 2nd penalty to go 2-0 down so quickly, we might have still managed to rescue something in the last half hour only 1-0 down, albeit with 10.
posted on 19/8/12
comment by honestlivpool_five_times (U1661)
posted 2 minutes ago
People's problem with Gerrard isn't getting mark out the game or creativity. We created tons of chances which we couldn't finish. He kept giving the ball away and didn't even bother chasing to win it back.
------------------------------------------
The body language and willingness to fight for the club is what is disappointing, in my opinion. His general play has been ok but his attitude hasn't and it affects his play being at the peak of what he is capable of.
Perhaps being dropped would give him the determination back.
posted on 19/8/12
DOwning is a lot of things but a creator is not one of them in my eyes (and everyone outside of Liverpool's eyes).
But hey, if you think he is then that's something you should hold onto
posted on 19/8/12
Gerrard is just one of those players who gets the blame every time we lose.
Er...cos Gerrard has more poor games than the others.
posted on 19/8/12
He doesn't though does he.
posted on 19/8/12
comment by Smalling_Jones (U13432)
posted 21 seconds ago
DOwning is a lot of things but a creator is not one of them in my eyes (and everyone outside of Liverpool's eyes).
But hey, if you think he is then that's something you should hold onto
-----------------------------
Can you please stop making things up? Everybody knows Downing is a creator, it's highlighted by the fact he is always close to the top in terms of CREATION stats. Just because you're a bit dim, doesn't mean everybody agrees with you, it only means you have a problem understanding the meaning of the word creator. I'll give you the short and easy meaning, it's a person who creates, ie Downing, who creating over 60 chances last season and has been at the top in terms of creation(there's that word again) for years now. In fact, it's his job, if he didn't have that, he wouldn't be a top player as he doesn't excel at much else.
posted on 19/8/12
Personally I don't think Downing is close to Liverpool quality and I don't think he's creative. The guy is literally scared of the ball. Players normally want to have the ball but he always wants to get rid of the ball.
posted on 19/8/12
It's not about thinking he's created as there's nothing to think, it's a fact that he's creative. A quick Google search can help you out, if you can't see it for yourself.
posted on 19/8/12
As I said earlier, he turns up in 1 in 4 games. OK that one game he is usually outstanding but he does go missing all too frequently now. Our new manager will not want that.
Possession based football is about all 11 players (keeper included) coming to the party and playing. Central midfielders disappearing and giving the ball away needlessly is not on Brendan's agenda.
posted on 19/8/12
Gerrards role is to play the AM role so it's not entirely his job to run back when we have 2 sitters protecting. That Agger red card incident happened so quick that even if Gerrard was 25 and sprinted back he would have been no where near the play.
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