Atleast this is a more believable statement than John's assertion that Giroud will score more goals than RVP
I'm not sad enough to bookmark, so yeah.
Has anyone got the balls to disagree?
I disagree. I think they will do very well to score 30 goals between them. Extremely well.
Giroud will never score a league goal for arsenal.
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I wouldn't put any money on that OP
Disagree. Useless article anyway. The number of goals is not the criterium for a goal scorer, it is the goal ratio over a season. I do not believe that either one will finish with a goal ratio greater than 0.5.
I disagree. Unless Podolski gets 20 alone no chance. I'm hoping there is more to what I know of Giroud right now, I know he's only arrived but he has to face the pressure and the more RVP scores the more he will need to I'm afraid.
Also it doesn't take 'adapting' to finish or distribute some of the opportunities he has already had it takes a brain which he doesn't seem to have.
The hell?
Giroud has been far better than Podolski in the two games.
"I know he's only arrived but he has to face the pressure and the more RVP scores the more he will need to I'm afraid."
What does RVP have to do with Arsenal? Whether RVP scores 1 or 100 goals this season will have no relevance on us or Giroud whatsoever.
i disagree kam. Think the midfield will chip in with more goals this season though and hopefully the goalscoring burden will be spread throughout the forwards and attacking mids in generally.
Grand Theft
Yes it will psychologically actually, do you remember Wenger being asked about how RVP would have finished Giroud's chance on the first day? Well while RVP sticks them away at United Giroud is the man that HAS to make us accept and move on from him.
I'm sure you remember how long we we were dwelling on Vieira's departure until Flamini came in a few years later, it's like that. So that is what RVP still has to do with us. Also he is playing for a rival a team we are trying to compete with right? So him scoring for them does have quite an affect I can tell you
As long as we score I don't really care who scores. As Greengr said I would appreciate that different players score.
Kamran you are so deluded. No way will they get more than 37 goals, in 3 seasons let alone this season
No Inventor, I completely disagree. What RVP does at United is irrelevant. However what he HAS DONE for us is very relevant which is why the pressure will always be on Giroud's shoulders, unfairly I should add.
People have forgotten that last season we had not scored in our first 2 games, by the time RVP scored his first goal we are 6-1 do to United. And I remember RVP being part of the team in 08/09 that went 4 consecutive league matches without a goal!!!
All the 'RVP would have scored that' nonsense is just that, nonsense. RVP is not here anymore so speculating what he might or might not do is pointless.
we were* 6-1 down* to United
So wait what if I said 'what Aguero does at City is irrelevant to United' well last season proved that wrong. RVP will boost United who are now much stronger than us so it is relevant and like I said earlier, mentally RVP getting off to a flyer and Giroud doing nothing is effecting us and him.
I credit you for being optimistic and trying to move on from him which you should do but unfortunately as circumstances currently stand that whole transfer scenario puts a grey cloud on us, meaning we need to replace RVP's goals ASAP
Like I used the Vieira example before it's similar but what was better is that Vieira went to Italy and only returned once while out there we lost a great player and that was that but with RVP we lost one and gave him to a rival, that will be very hard to forget if he and United succeed in competitions we are involved in!
The thing with Aguero and United is that Aguero plays for a rival club. Realistically we are not rivals with United, the only time we should be worried about him scoring is when he plays against us.
Also I am not optimistic at all, but there is no point in thinking 'what if'. You will just kill yourself speculating, we are stuck with Giroud now so we have to support him, not add to the massive pressure already on his shoulders.
I am not talking local rivalry I mean title-rivals unless you accept that title challenging shouldn't be our intentions anymore because we had good reason to think that high before we sold RVP, the more he scores for them leads to points so it really has significant relevance, every player that helps other challengers win is relevant in a way.
I agree and really I blame Wenger for pinning our hopes on Giroud when he is not good enough to rely on, it was wrong to bring a 'decent' forward that is different from our style and then in his first EPL season tell him his job is to fill the boots of the world class player who just departed. I supported Chamakh and even Park but thankfully they weren't so relied on, at a club of our stature he will have to accept pressure we have objectives and will need him to help us fulfil them whether he likes it or not! I liked him as a signing when I believed he'd come off the bench because Chamakh was that man last year but when I discovered he was RVP's replacement I could tell we were doomed from there. Only time (which we really don't have) will tell I guess.
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League goals or overall?
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Overall.
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Atleast this is a more believable statement than John's assertion that Giroud will score more goals than RVP
posted on 1/9/12
I'm not sad enough to bookmark, so yeah.
posted on 1/9/12
Has anyone got the balls to disagree?
posted on 1/9/12
I disagree.
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i disagree.
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Bookmarked
posted on 1/9/12
I disagree. I think they will do very well to score 30 goals between them. Extremely well.
posted on 1/9/12
Giroud will never score a league goal for arsenal.
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posted on 1/9/12
I wouldn't put any money on that OP
posted on 1/9/12
Disagree. Useless article anyway. The number of goals is not the criterium for a goal scorer, it is the goal ratio over a season. I do not believe that either one will finish with a goal ratio greater than 0.5.
posted on 1/9/12
I disagree. Unless Podolski gets 20 alone no chance. I'm hoping there is more to what I know of Giroud right now, I know he's only arrived but he has to face the pressure and the more RVP scores the more he will need to I'm afraid.
Also it doesn't take 'adapting' to finish or distribute some of the opportunities he has already had it takes a brain which he doesn't seem to have.
posted on 1/9/12
The hell?
Giroud has been far better than Podolski in the two games.
posted on 1/9/12
"I know he's only arrived but he has to face the pressure and the more RVP scores the more he will need to I'm afraid."
What does RVP have to do with Arsenal? Whether RVP scores 1 or 100 goals this season will have no relevance on us or Giroud whatsoever.
posted on 1/9/12
i disagree kam. Think the midfield will chip in with more goals this season though and hopefully the goalscoring burden will be spread throughout the forwards and attacking mids in generally.
posted on 1/9/12
Grand Theft
Yes it will psychologically actually, do you remember Wenger being asked about how RVP would have finished Giroud's chance on the first day? Well while RVP sticks them away at United Giroud is the man that HAS to make us accept and move on from him.
I'm sure you remember how long we we were dwelling on Vieira's departure until Flamini came in a few years later, it's like that. So that is what RVP still has to do with us. Also he is playing for a rival a team we are trying to compete with right? So him scoring for them does have quite an affect I can tell you
posted on 1/9/12
As long as we score I don't really care who scores. As Greengr said I would appreciate that different players score.
posted on 1/9/12
Kamran you are so deluded. No way will they get more than 37 goals, in 3 seasons let alone this season
posted on 1/9/12
No Inventor, I completely disagree. What RVP does at United is irrelevant. However what he HAS DONE for us is very relevant which is why the pressure will always be on Giroud's shoulders, unfairly I should add.
People have forgotten that last season we had not scored in our first 2 games, by the time RVP scored his first goal we are 6-1 do to United. And I remember RVP being part of the team in 08/09 that went 4 consecutive league matches without a goal!!!
All the 'RVP would have scored that' nonsense is just that, nonsense. RVP is not here anymore so speculating what he might or might not do is pointless.
posted on 1/9/12
we were* 6-1 down* to United
posted on 1/9/12
So wait what if I said 'what Aguero does at City is irrelevant to United' well last season proved that wrong. RVP will boost United who are now much stronger than us so it is relevant and like I said earlier, mentally RVP getting off to a flyer and Giroud doing nothing is effecting us and him.
I credit you for being optimistic and trying to move on from him which you should do but unfortunately as circumstances currently stand that whole transfer scenario puts a grey cloud on us, meaning we need to replace RVP's goals ASAP
posted on 1/9/12
Like I used the Vieira example before it's similar but what was better is that Vieira went to Italy and only returned once while out there we lost a great player and that was that but with RVP we lost one and gave him to a rival, that will be very hard to forget if he and United succeed in competitions we are involved in!
posted on 1/9/12
The thing with Aguero and United is that Aguero plays for a rival club. Realistically we are not rivals with United, the only time we should be worried about him scoring is when he plays against us.
Also I am not optimistic at all, but there is no point in thinking 'what if'. You will just kill yourself speculating, we are stuck with Giroud now so we have to support him, not add to the massive pressure already on his shoulders.
posted on 1/9/12
I am not talking local rivalry I mean title-rivals unless you accept that title challenging shouldn't be our intentions anymore because we had good reason to think that high before we sold RVP, the more he scores for them leads to points so it really has significant relevance, every player that helps other challengers win is relevant in a way.
I agree and really I blame Wenger for pinning our hopes on Giroud when he is not good enough to rely on, it was wrong to bring a 'decent' forward that is different from our style and then in his first EPL season tell him his job is to fill the boots of the world class player who just departed. I supported Chamakh and even Park but thankfully they weren't so relied on, at a club of our stature he will have to accept pressure we have objectives and will need him to help us fulfil them whether he likes it or not! I liked him as a signing when I believed he'd come off the bench because Chamakh was that man last year but when I discovered he was RVP's replacement I could tell we were doomed from there. Only time (which we really don't have) will tell I guess.
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