Arshavin and Cazorla are totally different players. Only reason they are being compared is because they are both short.
No I haven't.
Arshavin has never been as good as Cazorla. End of.
Both are short. Both like to dribble with the ball. Arshavin was more of second striker type of player (better version of Kagawa). While Cazorla is a playmaker ala Silva.
"No I haven't.
Arshavin has never been as good as Cazorla. End of."
Because you say so. Guess that makes things concrete. Said it before, you have this issue with favoritism. You can't be objective in your opinion. Pathetic really.
Ooh shut up you idiot. Every day you come up with the same ****.
I have favourism?
You basically suck Arteta's **** on daily basis.
Cazorla is a more talented player than Arshavin.
Arsh was good at beating his man and shooting but Santi has better close control, passing, creativity and vision not too mention he's completely either footed
If things continue like they are then when wilshere returns this will be the team:
---------------Arteta-----------------Diaby------------------
--------------------------Cazorla-------------------------------
---Ox--------------------------------------------Podolski----
-------------------------Giroud--------------------------------
Why? Because Diaby is a different type of player to Jack, who's natural competitor is Arteta. Mikl has been on form for this and last season. He won't be dropped. The team stays the same.
Didn't you say Arteta is better than Thiago and Martinez the other day (something like that)? That's the most delusional thing I've ever heard. More delusional than saying Downing is a good player.
Carzorla looks class as does Podolski.
Giroud im not sure about.
Yes. It's true. Hence why you're throwing insults my way. As they say; truth hurts.
Arteta? How is he relevant to the subject at hand? I rate him highly. But if someone states e.g. Alonso's better, you wouldn't see me disagree. You on the other hand place your Godfather on a pedestal with no one coming close to them (even though the said players are on par).
"Didn't you say Arteta is better than Thiago and Martinez the other day (something like that)? That's the most delusional thing I've ever heard. More delusional than saying Downing is a good player."
Arteta is better than Thiago and Martinez.
Ah. Following my debates closely it seems. And you label other people 'stalker'.
Martinez? So? Good player. But it's debatable.
Thiago is a good player too. But he ain't that good. Just cause he plays for Barca you think he's outta this world.
Kamran - KingKoscielny (U1204)
posted 15 minutes ago
Arteta Diaby
Cazorla Wilshere Podolski
Giroud
That would be an incredible team.
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I think we may let in a few goals though with no defence or Goalie Kamran.......but your right even 6 v 11 on the pitch and no goalie or defence we will win 7-5 or 9-7 most games.........
Martinez is in the Spain squad Arteta isn't so that debate is closed
"Yes. It's true. Hence why you're throwing insults my way. As they say; truth hurts."
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No, it's most certainly not true.
"Arteta? How is he relevant to the subject at hand? I rate him highly. But if someone states e.g. Alonso's better, you wouldn't see me disagree. You on the other hand place your Godfather on a pedestal with no one coming close to them (even though the said players are on par)."
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Arteta is irrelevant to the subject?
What about Iniesta and Messi? Are they relevant? Because you just mentioned them out of nowhere.
And here comes Batmanu to start today's rimjob.
Martinez is clearly better than Arteta. That's not debatable.
And Thaigo is a fantastic young player, I rate him because of his ability, not because of the club he plays for.
"Martinez is in the Spain squad Arteta isn't so that debate is closed"
Silva is in ahead of Cesc and Cazorla, he must be better.
Javi Martinez? The Defensive Midfielder/Central Defender, right?! And you're comparing him to Arteta how exactly?
"Martinez is clearly better than Arteta. That's not debatable. "
It is debatable, you pleb. I have no problem with you thinking Martinez is ahead of him.
It just isn't as clear cut as you make it.
And therein lies your problem. You place one guy up there, and the other guy down there, even though they come close.
"And Thaigo is a fantastic young player, I rate him because of his ability, not because of the club he plays for."
Yes. He is a great player. But at this time Arteta is better than him.
He will probably go ahead of him in a few years.
Silva is in ahead of Cesc and Cazorla, he must be better.
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Silver is a better winger than both so no debate there
"It is debatable, you pleb. I have no problem with you thinking Martinez is ahead of him.
It just isn't as clear cut as you make it.
And therein lies your problem. You place one guy up there, and the other guy down there, even though they come close."
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It is very clear cut, you door handle.
I love Arteta, but Martinez is clearly a better player than him.
"Yes. He is a great player. But at this time Arteta is better than him.
He will probably go ahead of him in a few years."
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Dear god, how is Arteta better than Thiago? Are mental?
"It is very clear cut, you door handle.
I love Arteta, but Martinez is clearly a better player than him. "
How is it "clear cut"? You need to learn how to debate. At least explain what Martinez does better than Arteta, or his superior attributes. Are you capable of that?
"Dear god, how is Arteta better than Thiago? Are mental?"
Another fantastic rebuttal.
Thiago has fantastic touch and dribbling. He is very skillful.
He can play a ball here and there too.
But I don't think I could rely on him, the same way I do Arteta. He is smarter and more solid.
They're different players anyway. Thiago should be compared to Cazorla. He's an attacking mid, while Arteta's a central mid.
"How is it "clear cut"? You need to learn how to debate. At least explain what Martinez does better than Arteta, or his superior attributes. Are you capable of that?"
===
Martinez is younger, more versatile, works harder, he's a better tackler, stronger in the air and probably a better passer. They're different players do it's difficult to compare their attributes. Martinez is certainly the more valued player around the world, and rightly so.
"Another fantastic rebuttal.
Thiago has fantastic touch and dribbling. He is very skillful.
He can play a ball here and there too.
But I don't think I could rely on him, the same way I do Arteta. He is smarter and more solid.
They're different players anyway. Thiago should be compared to Cazorla. He's an attacking mid, while Arteta's a central mid."
===
Like I said, it's hard to compare two players who play in different positions.
Thiago is far more talented than Arteta and has achieved a lot more in his career.
Arteta has better defensive qualities, but Thiago is a better attacking player, and by some distance.
totally agree dubbed.
Thank goodness for Carzola or we might be watching arshavin point and jog about the pitch
I like arteta but lets face it, for a spaniard he is limited, del bosque and argones are no mugs, but he can do a great job for us.
"Martinez is younger, more versatile, works harder, he's a better tackler, stronger in the air and probably a better passer. They're different players do it's difficult to compare their attributes. Martinez is certainly the more valued player around the world, and rightly so."
Younger and versatile improve quality of a player now? You sound like a Liverpool fan when they're arguing a case for Gerrard.
Works harder. Another quality which no doubts places Martinez light years ahead of that peasant Arteta.
Probably a better passer? So you're not even sure about this?
More valued? Because Bayern splashed the cash on him. Hardly means he's more valued around the world. You really don't know what you're on about, do you?
Arteta is technically better than him. Smarter and more creative too.
Apart from strength, there's little else Martinez has over him.
"Thiago is far more talented than Arteta and has achieved a lot more in his career. "
Achievements? Fletcher has achieved more than Arteta, he must be better too. Idiotic argument to bring forward.
He may be more technically talented than him. But that's it.
As I said, I'd be more inclined to rely on Arteta over Thiago, who's still unproven.
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posted on 6/9/12
Arshavin and Cazorla are totally different players. Only reason they are being compared is because they are both short.
posted on 6/9/12
No I haven't.
Arshavin has never been as good as Cazorla. End of.
posted on 6/9/12
Both are short. Both like to dribble with the ball. Arshavin was more of second striker type of player (better version of Kagawa). While Cazorla is a playmaker ala Silva.
posted on 6/9/12
"No I haven't.
Arshavin has never been as good as Cazorla. End of."
Because you say so. Guess that makes things concrete. Said it before, you have this issue with favoritism. You can't be objective in your opinion. Pathetic really.
posted on 6/9/12
Ooh shut up you idiot. Every day you come up with the same ****.
I have favourism?
You basically suck Arteta's **** on daily basis.
posted on 6/9/12
Cazorla is a more talented player than Arshavin.
Arsh was good at beating his man and shooting but Santi has better close control, passing, creativity and vision not too mention he's completely either footed
posted on 6/9/12
If things continue like they are then when wilshere returns this will be the team:
---------------Arteta-----------------Diaby------------------
--------------------------Cazorla-------------------------------
---Ox--------------------------------------------Podolski----
-------------------------Giroud--------------------------------
Why? Because Diaby is a different type of player to Jack, who's natural competitor is Arteta. Mikl has been on form for this and last season. He won't be dropped. The team stays the same.
posted on 6/9/12
Didn't you say Arteta is better than Thiago and Martinez the other day (something like that)? That's the most delusional thing I've ever heard. More delusional than saying Downing is a good player.
posted on 6/9/12
Carzorla looks class as does Podolski.
Giroud im not sure about.
posted on 6/9/12
Yes. It's true. Hence why you're throwing insults my way. As they say; truth hurts.
Arteta? How is he relevant to the subject at hand? I rate him highly. But if someone states e.g. Alonso's better, you wouldn't see me disagree. You on the other hand place your Godfather on a pedestal with no one coming close to them (even though the said players are on par).
posted on 6/9/12
"Didn't you say Arteta is better than Thiago and Martinez the other day (something like that)? That's the most delusional thing I've ever heard. More delusional than saying Downing is a good player."
Arteta is better than Thiago and Martinez.
posted on 6/9/12
Ah. Following my debates closely it seems. And you label other people 'stalker'.
Martinez? So? Good player. But it's debatable.
Thiago is a good player too. But he ain't that good. Just cause he plays for Barca you think he's outta this world.
posted on 6/9/12
Kamran - KingKoscielny (U1204)
posted 15 minutes ago
Arteta Diaby
Cazorla Wilshere Podolski
Giroud
That would be an incredible team.
--------------------------------------------------------
I think we may let in a few goals though with no defence or Goalie Kamran.......but your right even 6 v 11 on the pitch and no goalie or defence we will win 7-5 or 9-7 most games.........
posted on 6/9/12
Martinez is in the Spain squad Arteta isn't so that debate is closed
posted on 6/9/12
"Yes. It's true. Hence why you're throwing insults my way. As they say; truth hurts."
===
No, it's most certainly not true.
"Arteta? How is he relevant to the subject at hand? I rate him highly. But if someone states e.g. Alonso's better, you wouldn't see me disagree. You on the other hand place your Godfather on a pedestal with no one coming close to them (even though the said players are on par)."
===
Arteta is irrelevant to the subject?
What about Iniesta and Messi? Are they relevant? Because you just mentioned them out of nowhere.
And here comes Batmanu to start today's rimjob.
posted on 6/9/12
Martinez is clearly better than Arteta. That's not debatable.
And Thaigo is a fantastic young player, I rate him because of his ability, not because of the club he plays for.
posted on 6/9/12
"Martinez is in the Spain squad Arteta isn't so that debate is closed"
Silva is in ahead of Cesc and Cazorla, he must be better.
posted on 6/9/12
Javi Martinez? The Defensive Midfielder/Central Defender, right?! And you're comparing him to Arteta how exactly?
posted on 6/9/12
"Martinez is clearly better than Arteta. That's not debatable. "
It is debatable, you pleb. I have no problem with you thinking Martinez is ahead of him.
It just isn't as clear cut as you make it.
And therein lies your problem. You place one guy up there, and the other guy down there, even though they come close.
"And Thaigo is a fantastic young player, I rate him because of his ability, not because of the club he plays for."
Yes. He is a great player. But at this time Arteta is better than him.
He will probably go ahead of him in a few years.
posted on 6/9/12
Silva is in ahead of Cesc and Cazorla, he must be better.
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Silver is a better winger than both so no debate there
posted on 6/9/12
"It is debatable, you pleb. I have no problem with you thinking Martinez is ahead of him.
It just isn't as clear cut as you make it.
And therein lies your problem. You place one guy up there, and the other guy down there, even though they come close."
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It is very clear cut, you door handle.
I love Arteta, but Martinez is clearly a better player than him.
"Yes. He is a great player. But at this time Arteta is better than him.
He will probably go ahead of him in a few years."
==
Dear god, how is Arteta better than Thiago? Are mental?
posted on 6/9/12
"It is very clear cut, you door handle.
I love Arteta, but Martinez is clearly a better player than him. "
How is it "clear cut"? You need to learn how to debate. At least explain what Martinez does better than Arteta, or his superior attributes. Are you capable of that?
"Dear god, how is Arteta better than Thiago? Are mental?"
Another fantastic rebuttal.
Thiago has fantastic touch and dribbling. He is very skillful.
He can play a ball here and there too.
But I don't think I could rely on him, the same way I do Arteta. He is smarter and more solid.
They're different players anyway. Thiago should be compared to Cazorla. He's an attacking mid, while Arteta's a central mid.
posted on 6/9/12
"How is it "clear cut"? You need to learn how to debate. At least explain what Martinez does better than Arteta, or his superior attributes. Are you capable of that?"
===
Martinez is younger, more versatile, works harder, he's a better tackler, stronger in the air and probably a better passer. They're different players do it's difficult to compare their attributes. Martinez is certainly the more valued player around the world, and rightly so.
"Another fantastic rebuttal.
Thiago has fantastic touch and dribbling. He is very skillful.
He can play a ball here and there too.
But I don't think I could rely on him, the same way I do Arteta. He is smarter and more solid.
They're different players anyway. Thiago should be compared to Cazorla. He's an attacking mid, while Arteta's a central mid."
===
Like I said, it's hard to compare two players who play in different positions.
Thiago is far more talented than Arteta and has achieved a lot more in his career.
Arteta has better defensive qualities, but Thiago is a better attacking player, and by some distance.
posted on 6/9/12
totally agree dubbed.
Thank goodness for Carzola or we might be watching arshavin point and jog about the pitch
I like arteta but lets face it, for a spaniard he is limited, del bosque and argones are no mugs, but he can do a great job for us.
posted on 6/9/12
"Martinez is younger, more versatile, works harder, he's a better tackler, stronger in the air and probably a better passer. They're different players do it's difficult to compare their attributes. Martinez is certainly the more valued player around the world, and rightly so."
Younger and versatile improve quality of a player now? You sound like a Liverpool fan when they're arguing a case for Gerrard.
Works harder. Another quality which no doubts places Martinez light years ahead of that peasant Arteta.
Probably a better passer? So you're not even sure about this?
More valued? Because Bayern splashed the cash on him. Hardly means he's more valued around the world. You really don't know what you're on about, do you?
Arteta is technically better than him. Smarter and more creative too.
Apart from strength, there's little else Martinez has over him.
"Thiago is far more talented than Arteta and has achieved a lot more in his career. "
Achievements? Fletcher has achieved more than Arteta, he must be better too. Idiotic argument to bring forward.
He may be more technically talented than him. But that's it.
As I said, I'd be more inclined to rely on Arteta over Thiago, who's still unproven.
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