I agree with you OP. There is no way in the world that Evra is completely blameles for the handshake fiasco, his hand was by his side ffs. Was Suarez meant to literally grab his hand from his side and force the handshake?
The media were already well against Suarez at that point though having already labelled him a racist.
Evra's hand was their to be shaken. Perhaps a few inches lower than it was for the previous player, but still there to be shaken.
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Isn't this exactly what the article is suggesting? I noticed this when I first saw the incident and thought it demonstrated a reluctance to shake Suarez' hand
comment by phil neville has three left feet (U13806)
posted 16 minutes ago
Was JFK killed by Lee Harvey Oswald or was it a conspiracy/
Makes it kinda relevent to discuss. Was he or wasn't he?
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I have my opinions on that. Why don't you make a thread and we can talk about it.
Does anybody know who killed Archie?
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Well, I know that Archie Duke shot an ostrich. Is that any help?
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I can't believe they wouldn't shake hands!
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Both had the opportunity to 'make' the handshake happen as the passed each other.
Both waited for the other to do it and/or chose not to be the initiator.
The end.
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posted 8 minutes ago
Did Neil Armstrong really go to the moon?
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There's a thread for that already you numpty!!!
comment by 5x (U5488)
posted 1 minute ago
I agree with you OP. There is no way in the world that Evra is completely blameles for the handshake fiasco, his hand was by his side ffs. Was Suarez meant to literally grab his hand from his side and force the handshake?
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It wasn't at his side, it was still in front of him, if not a little lower than when shaking with other players. However, his hand does come up to meet Suarez's, who continues to raise his hand having shook with the mascot and goes right over Evra's hand.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Discuss.
Jesus some very bitter people on here. I'm relatively new to the site as far as posting goes but it drives me mad by the subject police on here.
This guy is more than fine talking about a football related issue. I agree some what with what he is saying. Suarez certainly is a media panto villain. In the same way Ronaldo was. And I think it's 6 and 2 threes.
In answer to your question, yes I think Evra was going to shake his hand, but DID move his hand back. That much is clear. I think he wanted to Suarez to move to him, in a power move kinda way. We all do it subconsciously or not. Suarez I then think in a split second changed his mind and decided against shaking his hand.
But as somebody else has said, RAP I think, this would have been more appropriate months ago. Or at least writing a comparison article about the Terry / Ferdinand issue
comment by TheDude (U14300)
posted 3 minutes ago
dont defend a racist red mamba
suarez = racist
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Eh? Racism? That hasn't been the topic here and I've defended no racist. Sheeeesh....seriously????
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comment by redconn > (U5676)
posted 1 minute ago
Both had the opportunity to 'make' the handshake happen as the passed each other.
Both waited for the other to do it and/or chose not to be the initiator.
The end.
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Evra did try to initiate it though, albeit a bit late. Why did Suarez then shake him off? Why not just shake then?
could it be, perhaps, that he had no intention of shaking in the first place?
I hope they shake hands and get it over and done with. Then we won't have to be reading any more threads on the matter.
I agree with you OP. There is no way in the world that Evra is completely blameles for the handshake fiasco, his hand was by his side ffs. Was Suarez meant to literally grab his hand from his side and force the handshake?
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Total rubbish
Evra even grabbed him nad Suarez deliberatly ignored him and shook him away
Suggesting any different is daft
Evra's hand were just slightly lower than they were when he was shaking other LFC players hands but his hands were clearly moving forward towrads Suarez's hands
To suggest Evra didnt attempt to shake his hand is just daft. He forcably tried ffs
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Evra did try to initiate it though, albeit a bit late. Why did Suarez then shake him off? Why not just shake then?
could it be, perhaps, that he had no intention of shaking in the first place?
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When De Gea and Paddy tried to get him to shake his hand Suarez deliberatly completely ignored it
I thought John Terry and Ashley Cole were out of order for refusing to shake Anton Ferdinand's hand too
After all this I hope Buttner starts
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posted 27 seconds ago
I thought John Terry and Ashley Cole were out of order for refusing to shake Anton Ferdinand's hand too
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Ronaldo was a panto villain because he dived a lot. Suarez is a just a villain because he's racially abused a peer and then refused to shake his hand. Can't quite understand the correlation there.
I still want to know what came first. The chicken or the egg? It's more interesting than this total heap.
Same here. Only difference is I will say something if I think a Pool player is being mistreated.
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So why couldn't you have added your two cents worth back when it happened instead of bringing it up again now?
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After all this I hope Buttner starts
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That's one way to settle it.
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posted on 17/9/12
I agree with you OP. There is no way in the world that Evra is completely blameles for the handshake fiasco, his hand was by his side ffs. Was Suarez meant to literally grab his hand from his side and force the handshake?
The media were already well against Suarez at that point though having already labelled him a racist.
posted on 17/9/12
Evra's hand was their to be shaken. Perhaps a few inches lower than it was for the previous player, but still there to be shaken.
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Isn't this exactly what the article is suggesting? I noticed this when I first saw the incident and thought it demonstrated a reluctance to shake Suarez' hand
posted on 17/9/12
comment by phil neville has three left feet (U13806)
posted 16 minutes ago
Was JFK killed by Lee Harvey Oswald or was it a conspiracy/
Makes it kinda relevent to discuss. Was he or wasn't he?
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I have my opinions on that. Why don't you make a thread and we can talk about it.
posted on 17/9/12
Does anybody know who killed Archie?
--------------------------
Well, I know that Archie Duke shot an ostrich. Is that any help?
posted on 17/9/12
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posted on 17/9/12
Corrie > Eastenders
I can't believe they wouldn't shake hands!
posted on 17/9/12
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posted on 17/9/12
Both had the opportunity to 'make' the handshake happen as the passed each other.
Both waited for the other to do it and/or chose not to be the initiator.
The end.
posted on 17/9/12
comment by Kagawa_26 - Possession Guaranteed! (U15671)
posted 8 minutes ago
Did Neil Armstrong really go to the moon?
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There's a thread for that already you numpty!!!
posted on 17/9/12
comment by 5x (U5488)
posted 1 minute ago
I agree with you OP. There is no way in the world that Evra is completely blameles for the handshake fiasco, his hand was by his side ffs. Was Suarez meant to literally grab his hand from his side and force the handshake?
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It wasn't at his side, it was still in front of him, if not a little lower than when shaking with other players. However, his hand does come up to meet Suarez's, who continues to raise his hand having shook with the mascot and goes right over Evra's hand.
posted on 17/9/12
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Discuss.
posted on 17/9/12
Jesus some very bitter people on here. I'm relatively new to the site as far as posting goes but it drives me mad by the subject police on here.
This guy is more than fine talking about a football related issue. I agree some what with what he is saying. Suarez certainly is a media panto villain. In the same way Ronaldo was. And I think it's 6 and 2 threes.
In answer to your question, yes I think Evra was going to shake his hand, but DID move his hand back. That much is clear. I think he wanted to Suarez to move to him, in a power move kinda way. We all do it subconsciously or not. Suarez I then think in a split second changed his mind and decided against shaking his hand.
But as somebody else has said, RAP I think, this would have been more appropriate months ago. Or at least writing a comparison article about the Terry / Ferdinand issue
posted on 17/9/12
comment by TheDude (U14300)
posted 3 minutes ago
dont defend a racist red mamba
suarez = racist
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Eh? Racism? That hasn't been the topic here and I've defended no racist. Sheeeesh....seriously????
posted on 17/9/12
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posted on 17/9/12
Looks who's getting abusive now. Would you consider yourself a skidmark on society?
posted on 17/9/12
comment by redconn > (U5676)
posted 1 minute ago
Both had the opportunity to 'make' the handshake happen as the passed each other.
Both waited for the other to do it and/or chose not to be the initiator.
The end.
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Evra did try to initiate it though, albeit a bit late. Why did Suarez then shake him off? Why not just shake then?
could it be, perhaps, that he had no intention of shaking in the first place?
posted on 17/9/12
I hope they shake hands and get it over and done with. Then we won't have to be reading any more threads on the matter.
posted on 17/9/12
I agree with you OP. There is no way in the world that Evra is completely blameles for the handshake fiasco, his hand was by his side ffs. Was Suarez meant to literally grab his hand from his side and force the handshake?
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Total rubbish
Evra even grabbed him nad Suarez deliberatly ignored him and shook him away
Suggesting any different is daft
Evra's hand were just slightly lower than they were when he was shaking other LFC players hands but his hands were clearly moving forward towrads Suarez's hands
To suggest Evra didnt attempt to shake his hand is just daft. He forcably tried ffs
posted on 17/9/12
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posted on 17/9/12
Evra did try to initiate it though, albeit a bit late. Why did Suarez then shake him off? Why not just shake then?
could it be, perhaps, that he had no intention of shaking in the first place?
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When De Gea and Paddy tried to get him to shake his hand Suarez deliberatly completely ignored it
posted on 17/9/12
I thought John Terry and Ashley Cole were out of order for refusing to shake Anton Ferdinand's hand too
posted on 17/9/12
After all this I hope Buttner starts
posted on 17/9/12
comment by UnitedRedMacca- If they want another Admin, I'm not interested in being on the standby list. I'm good enough to be Admin 3!! (U2024)
posted 27 seconds ago
I thought John Terry and Ashley Cole were out of order for refusing to shake Anton Ferdinand's hand too
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posted on 17/9/12
Ronaldo was a panto villain because he dived a lot. Suarez is a just a villain because he's racially abused a peer and then refused to shake his hand. Can't quite understand the correlation there.
I still want to know what came first. The chicken or the egg? It's more interesting than this total heap.
posted on 17/9/12
Same here. Only difference is I will say something if I think a Pool player is being mistreated.
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So why couldn't you have added your two cents worth back when it happened instead of bringing it up again now?
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After all this I hope Buttner starts
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That's one way to settle it.
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