Rangers cheated
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the only people that have been cheated in all of this is the creditors and i include the SPL (along with their member clubs)/ SFA along with rangers in that
what rangers have been is punished. punished for the misdemeanours caused by a previous failed company.
in terms of company law, what happened to rangers oldco newco was totally unprecedented
The fact that you weren't wanted was bad enough. The realisation that you are not needed is hard to take, I get that, honest I really do.
The fact that you weren't wanted was bad enough
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the only thing wanted from rangers is our money
thats why i was delighted we weren't voted into div 1
in 4 yrs when rangers are back in the premier league we will see if we are wanted/ missed or needed.
my own opinion is that any premier league may well have a very different look about it
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"i believe it totalled over £2m split as per the TV revenue based on league positions fro the previous year"
So, about 190k each?
At least we know who our majority shareholder is.
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Ivan, Not one SPL chairman came out though and said that the monies paid to the SFL as part of the severance agreement would continue to be paid no matter what decision they came too.
Doncaster was too busy blackmailing them that they would lose their money as was confirmed by Clyde and Stenhousemuir who asked for someone to confirm that those payments would continue, nobody ever did.
Irvine, do you have anything sensible to bring to what is not too bad a thread? Or do you only have the usual mantra to trot out? Tell you though if Cosgrove is right about attendances being down at Celtic it would tend to suggest that some Tic fans are n missing the competition.
I just get sick of the hypocricy. You want to keep all of the prizemoney that oldco won, you say it was 'stolen' from you. Yet your happy to walk away from all of oldcos debt.
Can't you guys see it?
BTG
how does cosgrove know attendances are down at CP? afterall when publishing attendances we know celtic count empty seats
I just get sick of the hypocricy. You want to keep all of the prizemoney that oldco won, you say it was 'stolen' from you. Yet your happy to walk away from all of oldcos debt.
Can't you guys see it?
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and youcan't see the utter hypocrisy of your club and its fans that by accepting oldco prize money you are denying the very creditors you show so much faux outrhage about on here
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I would have been delighted to see it go to creditors if it meant Rangers were expelled completely. That's what should have happened. You are a new club and had no right to walk straight into Div3. You don't realise how lucky you are.
comment by Irvine No 1 (U1006)
posted 4 minutes ago
I would have been delighted to see it go to creditors if it meant Rangers were expelled completely. That's what should have happened. You are a new club and had no right to walk straight into Div3. You don't realise how lucky you are.
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It should have went to Creditors no matter what happened to Rangers. How can the SPL ever justify retaining that money?
Irvine, the fact is the SPL prize money got nicked by the other 2011/12 SPL clubs. Stolen. Nabbed.
THAT money has gone into the coffers of those 11 clubs.
So no preaching about punishment, creditors done out of cash etc will ever be tolerated.
The amount is not the issue. It is the principle. After all, that is what ALL this has been about - integrity, sporting or otherwise.
comment by Irvine No 1 (U1006)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
I would have been delighted to see it go to creditors if it meant Rangers were expelled completely.
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Care to explain that Irvine?
Yeah Irvine - was wondering about that. So integrity is conditional then?
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I didn't believe any of the Armageddon nonsense from the start, I can see our league getting better too. A lot of Rangers fans are desperate for other teams to fold and this is why I cant really sympathise with them. I also had a feeling Celtic wouldn't get things there own way either, would be nice if it stays close till well into the new year or even beyond
Good article, I actually quite like Cosgrove
west, take yer diddy specs aff!
It has nothing to do with Rangers or Celtic, it is more to do with numptys who run our game!
For the last ten years Scottish fitbaw has been on a dramatic decline in standard while the price too watch it has went up!
Cosgrove is a imbecile, even Tam Cowan canne be arssed with him noo!
3rd, why the sudden interest in the state of Scottish football, our league has been in decline for years right enough. Now all of a sudden that rangers can get something out of it, league reconstruction is top of the agenda
diddy specs i'm off to get a pair
I have been saying since 1994 that reconstruction was needed in Scottish fitbaw, it is a boring format and always will be.
But to many people interested in their own positions to care
3rd, I do think we need reconstruction too, and big time but I just think if its done before Rangers have worked their way back it will be unfair. I think the next 4 years will through up some interesting football anyway. This season is actually turning into a good season, just about any team in the SPL could be in the top 4 at the end of the season.
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posted on 6/11/12
Rangers cheated
==
the only people that have been cheated in all of this is the creditors and i include the SPL (along with their member clubs)/ SFA along with rangers in that
what rangers have been is punished. punished for the misdemeanours caused by a previous failed company.
in terms of company law, what happened to rangers oldco newco was totally unprecedented
posted on 6/11/12
The fact that you weren't wanted was bad enough. The realisation that you are not needed is hard to take, I get that, honest I really do.
posted on 6/11/12
The fact that you weren't wanted was bad enough
===
the only thing wanted from rangers is our money
thats why i was delighted we weren't voted into div 1
in 4 yrs when rangers are back in the premier league we will see if we are wanted/ missed or needed.
my own opinion is that any premier league may well have a very different look about it
posted on 6/11/12
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posted on 6/11/12
"i believe it totalled over £2m split as per the TV revenue based on league positions fro the previous year"
So, about 190k each?
posted on 6/11/12
At least we know who our majority shareholder is.
posted on 6/11/12
Oooffft!
posted on 6/11/12
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posted on 6/11/12
Ivan, Not one SPL chairman came out though and said that the monies paid to the SFL as part of the severance agreement would continue to be paid no matter what decision they came too.
Doncaster was too busy blackmailing them that they would lose their money as was confirmed by Clyde and Stenhousemuir who asked for someone to confirm that those payments would continue, nobody ever did.
Irvine, do you have anything sensible to bring to what is not too bad a thread? Or do you only have the usual mantra to trot out? Tell you though if Cosgrove is right about attendances being down at Celtic it would tend to suggest that some Tic fans are n missing the competition.
posted on 6/11/12
I just get sick of the hypocricy. You want to keep all of the prizemoney that oldco won, you say it was 'stolen' from you. Yet your happy to walk away from all of oldcos debt.
Can't you guys see it?
posted on 6/11/12
BTG
how does cosgrove know attendances are down at CP? afterall when publishing attendances we know celtic count empty seats
posted on 6/11/12
I just get sick of the hypocricy. You want to keep all of the prizemoney that oldco won, you say it was 'stolen' from you. Yet your happy to walk away from all of oldcos debt.
Can't you guys see it?
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and youcan't see the utter hypocrisy of your club and its fans that by accepting oldco prize money you are denying the very creditors you show so much faux outrhage about on here
posted on 6/11/12
As I thought.
posted on 6/11/12
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posted on 6/11/12
I would have been delighted to see it go to creditors if it meant Rangers were expelled completely. That's what should have happened. You are a new club and had no right to walk straight into Div3. You don't realise how lucky you are.
posted on 6/11/12
comment by Irvine No 1 (U1006)
posted 4 minutes ago
I would have been delighted to see it go to creditors if it meant Rangers were expelled completely. That's what should have happened. You are a new club and had no right to walk straight into Div3. You don't realise how lucky you are.
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It should have went to Creditors no matter what happened to Rangers. How can the SPL ever justify retaining that money?
posted on 6/11/12
Irvine, the fact is the SPL prize money got nicked by the other 2011/12 SPL clubs. Stolen. Nabbed.
THAT money has gone into the coffers of those 11 clubs.
So no preaching about punishment, creditors done out of cash etc will ever be tolerated.
The amount is not the issue. It is the principle. After all, that is what ALL this has been about - integrity, sporting or otherwise.
posted on 6/11/12
comment by Irvine No 1 (U1006)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
I would have been delighted to see it go to creditors if it meant Rangers were expelled completely.
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Care to explain that Irvine?
posted on 6/11/12
Yeah Irvine - was wondering about that. So integrity is conditional then?
posted on 6/11/12
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posted on 6/11/12
I didn't believe any of the Armageddon nonsense from the start, I can see our league getting better too. A lot of Rangers fans are desperate for other teams to fold and this is why I cant really sympathise with them. I also had a feeling Celtic wouldn't get things there own way either, would be nice if it stays close till well into the new year or even beyond
Good article, I actually quite like Cosgrove
posted on 6/11/12
west, take yer diddy specs aff!
It has nothing to do with Rangers or Celtic, it is more to do with numptys who run our game!
For the last ten years Scottish fitbaw has been on a dramatic decline in standard while the price too watch it has went up!
Cosgrove is a imbecile, even Tam Cowan canne be arssed with him noo!
posted on 6/11/12
3rd, why the sudden interest in the state of Scottish football, our league has been in decline for years right enough. Now all of a sudden that rangers can get something out of it, league reconstruction is top of the agenda
diddy specs i'm off to get a pair
posted on 6/11/12
I have been saying since 1994 that reconstruction was needed in Scottish fitbaw, it is a boring format and always will be.
But to many people interested in their own positions to care
posted on 6/11/12
3rd, I do think we need reconstruction too, and big time but I just think if its done before Rangers have worked their way back it will be unfair. I think the next 4 years will through up some interesting football anyway. This season is actually turning into a good season, just about any team in the SPL could be in the top 4 at the end of the season.
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