Most clubs go out of their way to stop this sort of incident, it's not like were playing in Serbia where coin throwing is probably encouraged.

If it is still happening then it obviously isn't enough. No matter what condemnation these people receive, it wont stop them without harsh penalties for it. Maybe games behind closed doors for clubs with repeated offences? Would certainly make the 'honest' fans try to stop the sc um.

Sometimes I think those people only go there to cause trouble, but who knows.

I'll take that as there is no such post and our accusations were valid.

I'll also take the silence re: what caused the coin throwing to mean a begrudging acceptance re: our point about coins being thrown at the corner.

I was at the game on Sunday and like 99.9% of the crowd, didn't do anything unlawful so why should I be punished in any way?

should be made to play behind closed doors for the FA Cup game against Watford, wont be that many there anyway will there.

I think it'll be empty and the entire population of Beswick will go to Blackpool for the afternoon.

or West Ham

Very likely as half the population of M11 is either Chinese or Nigerian these days.

ONH were you the bloke on the bottom deck banding around that 'we win trophies, they buy them' tshirt. Poor fella seemed to genuinely believe it.

ONH was watching it in a pub in Warrington with the Padgate Massive.

My bad, how else would he have managed to do an accurate survey of the number of blues of 'ethnic' origin in the stands...

Anyway, I think we've all learnt a valuable lesson here so the whole incident should now be forgotten about and never mentioned again.

wait to get you at OT, already started saving up a load of 50p with sharpened edges (like kung fu stars)




all in jest, would waste any pennys on that shower.

"If Rooney has had coins thrown at him at one corner is it irresponsible of him to carry on taking corners?"

The irresponsible part was choosing to celebrate in front of that same section after the goal not taking the corner, this has all been made clear what part are you struggling with?
After actually picking up a coin to show the ref while taking a corner he then goes straight over after the goal to provoke the same morons that were throwing coins?
Not a single sensible City fan will condone throwing any missiles but surely the players must use better judgement too?

You're probably right - but to me it's an irrelevance.

As I said - if you look hard enough, you can usually blame someone else for the actions of an idiot.

It doesn't make it sensible, or the right thing to do though.

To eradicate this issue fully, then club allegiances have to be thrown out of the window, the "you did it so we can do it" argument does not work.

In terms of the coin throwing on Sunday, it is unacceptable, simple as that. The problem for me is that we have had instances like this in the past where nothing has been done, the authorities should have been on this a few years ago. Having said that, that does not mean something shouldn't happen now.

In terms of celebrating in front of the other teams supporters, it is a different issue. The coin throwing is simply unacceptable, inciting, or potentially inciting, a crowd is irresponsible, not unacceptable. You cannot compare the reaction of an individual against a reaction of a crowd. Crowd behaviour, both in terms of what influences it and the reaction of it, is completely different.

Fair points melton.

To those that have been using celebrations as some kind of excuse, I ask you this:

If you're sat near the away end and your team score, if you celebrate partially by looking at your rival fans and cheering - having perhaps been part of banter between the two sets of fans - would that justify a coin being thrown at your eye?

If it was thrown, would you hold yourself partly responsible?

Just to nip in before I run to work, I think meltons pretty much summed up my view on it, but in answer to your question Winston, the difference between fans and players is that the players are professionals, and so have to be judged by a higher standard of behaviour.

For example, Rooney receiving a ban after swearing down the camera, fans on the other hand are not banned or punished for chants that contain similar words, yet can often be heard just as clearly through the tv.

I agree when it comes to doing something negative i.e. swearing.

I cannot agree that players should not be allowed to celebrate in the same way as fans though.

As I said before - you're changing the rules to suit the idiot that can't control himself.

In my view, that's wrong.

"It doesn't make it sensible, or the right thing to do though."

Who said it did? Why are you arguing with yourself? As far as i can see only you said that.

I cannot agree that players should not be allowed to celebrate in the same way as fans though.

They are professionals though, no ones saying they shouldn't be able to celebrate (as opposed to what Paddy Crerand seems to think), but it wouldn't be very professional if our players had started chanting "easy easy" at the Stretford End when our sixth went in last season, would have probably resulted in a bigger fallout than the other day actually. Point is there is a line, and players should be judged by a higher standard than fans, just like professionals in any other walk of life are judged by a higher standard than your average joe.

You're right about that, fair point.

"Point is there is a line"

And I don't think for a minute Ferdinand or Rooney crossed it.

Crossed it? They were practically stood in the middle of the City fans.

Boris - to be honest, you've shown a complete inability to be reasoned, so I don't really care for your opinion.

I tend to avoid using things that haven't happened, but with you I'll make an exception; if this was roles reversed and we were discussing a City player, I'm certain you'd be offering up a different view.