"After the title, if I'd left for a top team, it wouldn't have been the same story.


"For me, it's clear that I lost two years at the highest level. I lost two years! Because instead of arriving at City at 27, I could have been there at 24, 25.

"Leicester blocked me. They told me: 'You're not leaving, you're not leaving'.

"My agent had spoken to [Arsene] Wenger who really wanted me. It was nearly all done with Arsenal in 2016. I was really frustrated.

"It wasn't easy to go from being the best player in the Premier League to being a part of a team fighting against relegation."

I am saying Leicester are in a far better position than us, and the suggestion they are a selling club and Rodgers faces a yearly rebuild doesn't match the facts.

Its always Brendon Rodgers won't come to Arsenal because you think Leicester are bigger?

Such a load of cr@p. I wonder why Leicester weren't invited to join the ESL?

https://twitter.com/GwattsRants/status/1390414953811746818

If you end like this you are in trouble.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
I am saying Leicester are in a far better position than us, and the suggestion they are a selling club and Rodgers faces a yearly rebuild doesn't match the facts.
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And they have owners that care.

Mattéo Guendouzi unlikely to play for Hertha again due to a metatarsal fracture. Loan deal from Arsenal up soon.

Is that what you were saying when in 2018/19 we finished ahead of them? 18 points ahead?

All it takes is a poor appointment like Arteta and suddenly Leicester are bigger than Arsenal?

Unbelievable!

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
Its always Brendon Rodgers won't come to Arsenal because you think Leicester are bigger?

Such a load of cr@p. I wonder why Leicester weren't invited to join the ESL?
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Leicester are in a better place.

Your points:
a) Money - Leicester have signed rather expensive players like Tielemans, Perez, Fofana

b) They have proved even without CL they don't have fire-sales. They may sell one, but they usually already have the replacement settled in.

c) Rodgers isn't stupid enough to think he can win the league with Arsenal in the next 3 years. Why would he stake his rebuilt reputation on us in the mess we are currently in.

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago


Is that what you were saying when in 2018/19 we finished ahead of them? 18 points ahead?

All it takes is a poor appointment like Arteta and suddenly Leicester are bigger than Arsenal?

Unbelievable!
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Bigger? You seem unable to distinguish between "bigger" and "better position".

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
Its always Brendon Rodgers won't come to Arsenal because you think Leicester are bigger?

Such a load of cr@p. I wonder why Leicester weren't invited to join the ESL?
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Leicester are in a better place.

Your points:
a) Money - Leicester have signed rather expensive players like Tielemans, Perez, Fofana

b) They have proved even without CL they don't have fire-sales. They may sell one, but they usually already have the replacement settled in.

c) Rodgers isn't stupid enough to think he can win the league with Arsenal in the next 3 years. Why would he stake his rebuilt reputation on us in the mess we are currently in.
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Because one swallow does not make a summer. And Arsenal are bigger in every single metric apart from recent form (last 2 years - ever since Arteta was appointed) and even then we still won a trophy in that period.

a) Arsenal have also signed players like Partey, Gabriel and Willian on humongous wages and lets not forget Pepe. Historically bigger net spend. And also likely to spend more in the future.

b) Who is talking of fire sales? Arsenal pay more so its much harder to prise away players. Leicester's wage bill can never come close to Arsenal. Even if we try to reduce ours,, its only to increase it again with better players, CL football or not.

c) Because he can't do it at Leicester either. The difference is that the potential exists at Arsenal. And much more likely now that the Kroenke's under pressure to sell or to start to lose their brand image that value Arsenal at £2Bn. Leicester will never be worth half that.

I think Arteta leaving is only a short term fix. It may get us back into europe next season like the ECL or EL but the same issues will resurface.

That isn't me backing Arteta as I think his time is up, but I would be lying if i said it would solve it.

The whole club is damaged top to bottom.

SQUAD: Not good enough

MANAGER: Out of his depth

BOARD: Inexperienced and not many who know how to run or qualified to run or have the decision making power to run a football club

OWNERSHIP: Have multiple sporting franchises so I am sure Arsenal aren't their biggest concern. We are their cash cow and have no plans for the major investment we need.

FANS: Yes we are part of the problem. We are too toxic at times and I think has a negative impact on the players.

To improve I believe we need:

1. Rebuild the relationship between the fans and the club

2. Hire an experienced manager

3. Rebuild the squad by getting rid of deadwood and buying players who are equipped to play the tactics the manager wants.

4. Investment needed by the ownership and I mean major investment.

5. Add experienced board members who have football knowledge and have the ability to make decisions on behalf of the ownership.

I do not think this is will happen under the current ownership.

If the club is not sold then I don't know where we go as a club because I think we'd be finished in terms of where we used to be

‘Player decisions always belong to the manager. The director of football goes and gets the players that the manager wants or as close as possible within the budget.’

No sure this is the way that relationship should work though. Surely it should be the DoF setting the agenda, otherwise what’s the point of having one?

Emery wanted Zaha. We signed Pepe.

Arteta wanted Aouar. We eventually signed Partey.

That first example shows where the power lay - okay, so you could say Emery was head coach, rather than manager.

But Aouar and Partey are completely different kinds of player.

comment by Legacyton 125.2 (U8879)
posted 18 seconds ago
‘Player decisions always belong to the manager. The director of football goes and gets the players that the manager wants or as close as possible within the budget.’


Arteta wanted Aouar. We eventually signed Partey.

That first example shows where the power lay - okay, so you could say Emery was head coach, rather than manager.

But Aouar and Partey are completely different kinds of player.
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Arteta wanted both. And as Edu has said we were close to Aouar if it hadn't been for his brother's last minute demands.

Arteta hasn't got a peep out of Partey. What makes you think he could have done anything with Aouar. Arteta's success with attacking players is even worse than defensive ones.

Arteta wanted both. And as Edu has said we were close to Aouar if it hadn't been for his brother's last minute demands.

We wanted both and get one.

We arent ruthless enough. Chelsea and City would have bought both. You see the difference?

No sure this is the way that relationship should work though. Surely it should be the DoF setting the agenda, otherwise what’s the point of having one?
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Generally I don't think thats true with any top club not called Chelsea.

I believe the manager always sets the agenda and the DoF works to make it happen.

But then its the managers job to actually make his system work with the players he demanded.

Otherwise why not just have Edu and then a pure head coach? Cut out the middle man altogether?

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
Arteta wanted both. And as Edu has said we were close to Aouar if it hadn't been for his brother's last minute demands.

We wanted both and get one.

We arent ruthless enough. Chelsea and City would have bought both. You see the difference?
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Yes. Chelsea FIRED Lampard before their season completely capitulated while we kept faith with Arteta and that has wasted a complete season.

"Arteta wanted both. "

that's not what you said a few months ago


Besides what exactly is the point of a DoF/Technical director when a manager is already in place. Unless both manager and doF are inexperienced and thus share the burden or the job.

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
Its always Brendon Rodgers won't come to Arsenal because you think Leicester are bigger?

Such a load of cr@p. I wonder why Leicester weren't invited to join the ESL?
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Leicester are in a better place.

Your points:
a) Money - Leicester have signed rather expensive players like Tielemans, Perez, Fofana

b) They have proved even without CL they don't have fire-sales. They may sell one, but they usually already have the replacement settled in.

c) Rodgers isn't stupid enough to think he can win the league with Arsenal in the next 3 years. Why would he stake his rebuilt reputation on us in the mess we are currently in.
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Because one swallow does not make a summer. And Arsenal are bigger in every single metric apart from recent form (last 2 years - ever since Arteta was appointed) and even then we still won a trophy in that period.

a) Arsenal have also signed players like Partey, Gabriel and Willian on humongous wages and lets not forget Pepe. Historically bigger net spend. And also likely to spend more in the future.

b) Who is talking of fire sales? Arsenal pay more so its much harder to prise away players. Leicester's wage bill can never come close to Arsenal. Even if we try to reduce ours,, its only to increase it again with better players, CL football or not.

c) Because he can't do it at Leicester either. The difference is that the potential exists at Arsenal. And much more likely now that the Kroenke's under pressure to sell or to start to lose their brand image that value Arsenal at £2Bn. Leicester will never be worth half that.
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"Bigger in every aspect except recent form" - again talking about "bigger". A managers career isn't a century long - those metrics don't matter over a short term. "Hey Brendan, you can either continue what you have started at a well run club, or drop down to a club in an absolute mess. " No brainer really, despite the 13 league titles Arsenal have won and the 60k stadium.
If Arteta was sacked, then that is 2 managers given 18 months. Why would Rodgers see that as a risk worth taking to "prove a point to Liverpool" (a rather ridiculous notion that Rodgers is driven solely by trying to make a point to Liverpool tbh) when he is doing that already with Leicester?

a) Yes, players he probably would want to replace.
b) You suggested "Leicester will sell their top players" plural. Not one or two, but "their top players". Something they didn't even do after the title, nor when they had an awful season afterwards - see Mahrez.
c) He is doing it at Leicester. Giving them CL football is a massive achievement even under the shadow of Ranieri.

Btw, Brendan Rodgers would jump at the chance to manage at Arsenal. Only reason he wouldn't is if a bigger job became available.

I’m not talking about Arteta’s coaching abilities though. Merely who at Arsenal ultimately makes decisions about transfers.

And everything in Rodgers managerial history suggests he'll not hesitate at jumping ship, should a bigger job become available

“Tottenham is a fantastic club, it’s a huge club but my focus is here. I’m at a world-class training facility, the project we’re in here we still want to develop and have a lot of work to do.

“I have a great connection with the players, the board and we have plans to keep progressing.

“While I have the energy, the happiness and see that challenge continuing I’m very happy to be here. You can’t stop gossip but I don’t think about it.”

Didn't Rodgers manage Celtic? A well run club pretty much guaranteed to win silverware almost every season and a crack at CL football? Then he jumped ship when the Leicester job became available?

Working under Levy with their best player abt to leave is not the same proposition as Arsenal Dj.

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