Mikel Arteta sends huge message to the Arsenal board in his press conference today:

“We have certain limitations and we have a lot of gaps and a lot of things to cover to become the team that we want, and then the availability of those players - Can you afford them? Even if you want to it’s sometimes been not possible.

“Compared to what other clubs have done in terms of spending, we are really out of touch.”

Not compared to Liverpool though

comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted about a minute ago
Not compared to Liverpool though
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Liverpool should be spending also, they are also playing a risky game

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again(U8398) (U8398)
posted 2 minutes ago
There isn't much difference with Liverpool owners and Arsenal's, they didn't buy who they needed, Liverpool have a good attack and have been quite lucky with their injuries (compared to last year), if by some chance they don't win the league you will see their fans revolt
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I don't think thats true. Liverpool actually have a much higher wage bill. That they can't afford with the new ffp rules. Thats why I think they will find it hard to retain vvd, salah and taa. I do think they can spend because of years of CL money that gives them good psr.

We have the opposite problem imo. Our psr has not been good because this is only our second year back in CL football but our wages (ffp) is quite good.
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Arsenal in fact have a much higher wage bill than Liverpool by around £50m per year. Arsenal are the third highest spenders in wages behind the Manchester clubs. Liverpool are in fifth. There is absolutely no truth that Liverpool can't increase the wage bill due to PSR. Liverpool are in an extremely healthy position in this regard and outside of buying players are actively working on increasing the wage bill with three of the already top earners contracts expiring at the end of the season.

https://www.capology.com/uk/premier-league/payrolls/

🤠🤠🤠

FFS 🤠

I thought TOOR was dead 😂

Legends never die pal 💪





And neither does TOOR apparently

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
I thought TOOR was dead 😂
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I got better!

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again(U8398) (U8398)
posted 2 minutes ago
There isn't much difference with Liverpool owners and Arsenal's, they didn't buy who they needed, Liverpool have a good attack and have been quite lucky with their injuries (compared to last year), if by some chance they don't win the league you will see their fans revolt
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I don't think thats true. Liverpool actually have a much higher wage bill. That they can't afford with the new ffp rules. Thats why I think they will find it hard to retain vvd, salah and taa. I do think they can spend because of years of CL money that gives them good psr.

We have the opposite problem imo. Our psr has not been good because this is only our second year back in CL football but our wages (ffp) is quite good.
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Arsenal in fact have a much higher wage bill than Liverpool by around £50m per year. Arsenal are the third highest spenders in wages behind the Manchester clubs. Liverpool are in fifth. There is absolutely no truth that Liverpool can't increase the wage bill due to PSR. Liverpool are in an extremely healthy position in this regard and outside of buying players are actively working on increasing the wage bill with three of the already top earners contracts expiring at the end of the season.

https://www.capology.com/uk/premier-league/payrolls/
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What is this rubbish. Your last published accounts puts your wage bill at

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/liverpool-finances-202223?utm_source=publication-search

Liverpool £373m
Arsenal £235m

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/arsenal-finances-202223?utm_source=publication-search

I can believe people quote finger in the air websites than actual published accounts.

* can't

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
I thought TOOR was dead 😂
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I got better!
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Good.

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
I think you've both ruined the footy banter which prior to this was good and honest
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You were the one who introduced Rosie Jones to the chat.

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
I thought TOOR was dead 😂
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I got better!
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Good news indeed.

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again(U8398) (U8398)
posted 2 minutes ago
There isn't much difference with Liverpool owners and Arsenal's, they didn't buy who they needed, Liverpool have a good attack and have been quite lucky with their injuries (compared to last year), if by some chance they don't win the league you will see their fans revolt
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I don't think thats true. Liverpool actually have a much higher wage bill. That they can't afford with the new ffp rules. Thats why I think they will find it hard to retain vvd, salah and taa. I do think they can spend because of years of CL money that gives them good psr.

We have the opposite problem imo. Our psr has not been good because this is only our second year back in CL football but our wages (ffp) is quite good.
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Arsenal in fact have a much higher wage bill than Liverpool by around £50m per year. Arsenal are the third highest spenders in wages behind the Manchester clubs. Liverpool are in fifth. There is absolutely no truth that Liverpool can't increase the wage bill due to PSR. Liverpool are in an extremely healthy position in this regard and outside of buying players are actively working on increasing the wage bill with three of the already top earners contracts expiring at the end of the season.

https://www.capology.com/uk/premier-league/payrolls/
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What is this rubbish. Your last published accounts puts your wage bill at

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/liverpool-finances-202223?utm_source=publication-search

Liverpool £373m
Arsenal £235m

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/arsenal-finances-202223?utm_source=publication-search
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You've posted total staff salaries from two years ago. I posted player salaries from this year.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
I think you've both ruined the footy banter which prior to this was good and honest
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You were the one who introduced Rosie Jones to the chat.
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And Rosie Holt

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
I thought TOOR was dead 😂
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I got better!
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Good news indeed.
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Is it? Got Better is a caaaaant.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 32 minutes ago
I thought TOOR was dead 😂
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I got better!
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Good news indeed.
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Is it? Got Better is a caaaaant.
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So are most of the Liverpool fans on JA606

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 41 minutes ago
I can believe people quote finger in the air websites than actual published accounts.
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That actual accounts don't break it down into player salaries. They include the salaries of over 800 staff.

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again(U8398) (U8398)
posted 2 minutes ago
There isn't much difference with Liverpool owners and Arsenal's, they didn't buy who they needed, Liverpool have a good attack and have been quite lucky with their injuries (compared to last year), if by some chance they don't win the league you will see their fans revolt
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I don't think thats true. Liverpool actually have a much higher wage bill. That they can't afford with the new ffp rules. Thats why I think they will find it hard to retain vvd, salah and taa. I do think they can spend because of years of CL money that gives them good psr.

We have the opposite problem imo. Our psr has not been good because this is only our second year back in CL football but our wages (ffp) is quite good.
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Arsenal in fact have a much higher wage bill than Liverpool by around £50m per year. Arsenal are the third highest spenders in wages behind the Manchester clubs. Liverpool are in fifth. There is absolutely no truth that Liverpool can't increase the wage bill due to PSR. Liverpool are in an extremely healthy position in this regard and outside of buying players are actively working on increasing the wage bill with three of the already top earners contracts expiring at the end of the season.

https://www.capology.com/uk/premier-league/payrolls/
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What is this rubbish. Your last published accounts puts your wage bill at

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/liverpool-finances-202223?utm_source=publication-search

Liverpool £373m
Arsenal £235m

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/arsenal-finances-202223?utm_source=publication-search
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You've posted total staff salaries from two years ago. I posted player salaries from this year.
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Staff are not paid £3m+ a season. Your entire staff bill is about the same as ours. Players salaries are completely private and NO website has them. Its absolute bull.

The wages quoted are not for two years. They are one accounting year 22-23.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/29/liverpool-report-9m-pre-tax-loss-debt-increase-amid-new-stand-development

£373m.

FFP/PSR are worked out on actual accounts submitted not crap guess clickbait websites

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 41 minutes ago
I can believe people quote finger in the air websites than actual published accounts.
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That actual accounts don't break it down into player salaries. They include the salaries of over 800 staff.
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Your tea lady is paid £30k a year, not £3m a year. Even your CEO is less than the players. Just like our staff.

And your point is immaterial anyway because FFP/PSR is calculated on accounts submitted. Not crapology.

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again(U8398) (U8398)
posted 2 minutes ago
There isn't much difference with Liverpool owners and Arsenal's, they didn't buy who they needed, Liverpool have a good attack and have been quite lucky with their injuries (compared to last year), if by some chance they don't win the league you will see their fans revolt
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I don't think thats true. Liverpool actually have a much higher wage bill. That they can't afford with the new ffp rules. Thats why I think they will find it hard to retain vvd, salah and taa. I do think they can spend because of years of CL money that gives them good psr.

We have the opposite problem imo. Our psr has not been good because this is only our second year back in CL football but our wages (ffp) is quite good.
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Arsenal in fact have a much higher wage bill than Liverpool by around £50m per year. Arsenal are the third highest spenders in wages behind the Manchester clubs. Liverpool are in fifth. There is absolutely no truth that Liverpool can't increase the wage bill due to PSR. Liverpool are in an extremely healthy position in this regard and outside of buying players are actively working on increasing the wage bill with three of the already top earners contracts expiring at the end of the season.

https://www.capology.com/uk/premier-league/payrolls/
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What is this rubbish. Your last published accounts puts your wage bill at

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/liverpool-finances-202223?utm_source=publication-search

Liverpool £373m
Arsenal £235m

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/arsenal-finances-202223?utm_source=publication-search
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You've posted total staff salaries from two years ago. I posted player salaries from this year.
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Staff are not paid £3m+ a season. Your entire staff bill is about the same as ours. Players salaries are completely private and NO website has them. Its absolute bull.

The wages quoted are not for two years. They are one accounting year 22-23.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/29/liverpool-report-9m-pre-tax-loss-debt-increase-amid-new-stand-development

£373m.

FFP/PSR are worked out on actual accounts submitted not crap guess clickbait websites
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I said they were from two years ago, Arsenal's has increased since then and Liverpools decreased. Some clubs report player salaries separately, Liverpool are not one of them. There are over 800 staff as well as the players included in the accounts.

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again(U8398) (U8398)
posted 2 minutes ago
There isn't much difference with Liverpool owners and Arsenal's, they didn't buy who they needed, Liverpool have a good attack and have been quite lucky with their injuries (compared to last year), if by some chance they don't win the league you will see their fans revolt
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I don't think thats true. Liverpool actually have a much higher wage bill. That they can't afford with the new ffp rules. Thats why I think they will find it hard to retain vvd, salah and taa. I do think they can spend because of years of CL money that gives them good psr.

We have the opposite problem imo. Our psr has not been good because this is only our second year back in CL football but our wages (ffp) is quite good.
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Arsenal in fact have a much higher wage bill than Liverpool by around £50m per year. Arsenal are the third highest spenders in wages behind the Manchester clubs. Liverpool are in fifth. There is absolutely no truth that Liverpool can't increase the wage bill due to PSR. Liverpool are in an extremely healthy position in this regard and outside of buying players are actively working on increasing the wage bill with three of the already top earners contracts expiring at the end of the season.

https://www.capology.com/uk/premier-league/payrolls/
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What is this rubbish. Your last published accounts puts your wage bill at

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/liverpool-finances-202223?utm_source=publication-search

Liverpool £373m
Arsenal £235m

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/arsenal-finances-202223?utm_source=publication-search
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You've posted total staff salaries from two years ago. I posted player salaries from this year.
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Staff are not paid £3m+ a season. Your entire staff bill is about the same as ours. Players salaries are completely private and NO website has them. Its absolute bull.

The wages quoted are not for two years. They are one accounting year 22-23.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/29/liverpool-report-9m-pre-tax-loss-debt-increase-amid-new-stand-development

£373m.

FFP/PSR are worked out on actual accounts submitted not crap guess clickbait websites
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I said they were from two years ago, Arsenal's has increased since then and Liverpools decreased. Some clubs report player salaries separately, Liverpool are not one of them. There are over 800 staff as well as the players included in the accounts.
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Actually they have not and Arsenal's haven't increased much. Neither club has had huge player turnover. Arsenal have bought Kai and Rice who both on less than £300k a week. Arsenal have wage cap of £275k, but even if you want to believe we have pay more than the cap it only comes to abt £15m x 2 = £30m+ that takes Arsenal to abt £260m. You have had more player coming in.

Dominik Szoboszlai €70.00m
Alexis Mac Allister €42.00m
Ryan Gravenberch €40.00m
Wataru Endo €20.00m

With only two exits: Fabinho and Hendersen

Your most expensive players are still at your club.

The new accounts are with PSR at this moment. They will be released in a few months. 23-24.

PSR stops any club adding £50m+ of salaries. And you have NOT sold your top earners. That may of course change if Salah/VVD/Trent all leave.

Club accounts are published and legally audited. There aren't two books for players/staff.