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...But we had absolutely no chance after that red card...
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Some decisions went your, way some didn't.But normally you get the decisions in big games so it was a refreshing change

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Please provide evidence.

Let's be honest, United's favorable decisions are exaggerated. Many of the ones against us are forgotten about because we usually win games.

Of course the catastrophic list of wrong decisions given against us when we played Chelsea a few years back which handed them the title are probably the most costly we've faced until last night.

But who cares what others think. Let them think the whole system is corrupt, that United are favored. Does it really matter?

As for last night, if FIFA/UEFA/Ref's Association back that decision then I expect to see overhead kicks etc outlawed to provide consistency.

Not only was Vidic clattered by the Real keeper after winning the ball (is a blow to the head not dangerous, intentional or not?). Ramos raising an elbow to block Wellbeck's run (something fans attacked Rooney for when he did it to McCarthy a few seasons ago) is not dangerous? Crouchy tried an overhead the other week and booted a defender in the face but was not even booked. Where's the consistency.

Imagine if Glenn Johnson had tried to charge down Ibrahimovic's overhead at Wembley a few months back and taken a kick to the face. We'd be talking about a red card and not the amazing wonder goal we should be talking about.

Any attempt at winning a ball or controlling a ball in the air can be deemed dangerous if a defender decides to charge in. The risk was taken by Arbeloa, not Nani. If the law was applied for that, then the keeper should have gone for clattering Vidic with his fists!

But I am not disagreeing that you may be right with the keepers punch so i dont undertsand how i lost???

doesnt change my point of view on the law or that nani was right to be sent off under that law.

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you just want to detract with other incidents rather than discussing the one you are angry about!!!

your dislike for us seems to be clouding your judgement Siempre Rojo aka tenemos diecinueve (U1560) ...

but that was onyl to be expected i suppose...

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Scouse, where is the consistency? Why is one a red, and the other just glossed over?

I’m sure we can all come with a similar list of bad decisions for our own clubs. Some you get some you don’t the ones you don’t always last longer in the mind.
I know I’m in a minority amongst fans (both United and neutral) and pundits but I can see why he gave the red.

Good performance from you and the decision definitely swung the game but I don’t think it was the outrageous decision people are making out it was.

Go on Twitter. Apart from Keano (and that iddiot Richard Keyes), every pundit, pro or ex-pro I've seen have said it definitely wasn't a sending off. Some say it could be deemed a yellow but many saying it wasn't even that. Jason Roberts, Collymore, Owen, Kompany and plenty more have said it was a crazy or harsh decision.

Even the Real players looked shocked, not even Arbeloa looked like he thought that was deserved.

I love how the Scousers are invading our thread yet we get banned from theirs. Jog on lads, you won't need to express an interest in the CL for a long time to come.

Paocozinho - How could you have forgotten the blatant penalty we were not awarded away to Spurs for the foul on Rooney ?

I have to laugh at a Celtic fan having the nerve to tell United fans not to blame the defeat on decisions, given the way that Celtic blame the refs for practically every defeat.

on a serious note, the 'better' side gets more decisions in their favour more often then not.

When United play in the prem this is the case

In the merseyside derby Liverpool over the years have done better with the refs.

And last night the same.

You're just not used to it because it's so rare that you play matches where you're the clear underdog.

If we were that clear of an underdog, why were we winning, and giving Madrid virtually no sniff, until the red card. People built Madrid up to be some god like machine that we had no hope of beating.

Jay MUFC (U16498)

Im not disagreeing with any of that... it may be a fair point. But that wasnt the original point it was that it was a red due to the laws of the game..

IMO the law is wrong but they are the laws. I argued the same as I beleive Shelvey went for the ball against Carrick..others thought differently ..but point was in both cases it doesnt matter what was intended...

I love how the Scousers are invading our thread yet we get banned from theirs. Jog on lads, you won't need to express an interest in the CL for a long time to come
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I dont get this..im stated nothing as a WUm just my opinion and that of others on the law..even stating i dont agree with the law but thats what it is.. yet apparently we have to jog on and then you throw a WUM in for good measure...
bit sad really...

Jay, Giant killing happens every round of the FA Cup.

You almost giant killed.

I think Ronaldo was a bit emotional last night and it showed on the pitch. He wasn't his normal self which handed you a big advantage.

Real aren't this giant that everyone seems to think they are. It was only rival fans and the media that had the impression we were going to get absolutely stuffed. To call it a giant killing would be a disservice to the team that went out there and would have probably won but for a decision that ended the game.

Ronaldo didn't really turn up at all.

Sorry Scouse-Heart didn't generally mean you. TOOR has wound me up on another thread by clearly showing anti-United bias!

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/193880

Everyone has bias..and you had to expect that this morning...though TOOR hasnt been on this thread has he?

but the uproar in it being an incorrect decision is incorrect IMO...

appreciate the apology though..

Agreed that Real are no giants. They are way off the pace in La Liga and have lost plenty of games.

If Barca hadn't hit bad form since Tito went for treatment, Barca would be even further ahead!

I can understand the argument for it being correct but like you I don't agree. It stands up more when it's applied consistently but you see things like that in every game. Refs have to also show common sense. Nobody would have complained if a yellow was given.

But like I said, many pros and ex-pros have said it was a ridiculous decision. Including players like ex Liverpool and City player, Didi Hamann who's Twitter views are probably the most rational I've ever come across!

Real are the biggest giant stuffed with world class players.

I think they're a bit too self-interested and can't be bothered too often.

that's the problem with 'superstars'. And they're overloaded with that type.

Very similar to the Galacticos era. Lots of stars, little real conviction and success.

Its fine to disagree and i see you point on common sense. There have been plenty of decisions in the past where ive thought 'by the laws yes but in reality no' i would put shelvey's in that too.. but i think too many of us think like this when I decision like this comes up and we cling to it.

This ref will be villified yet he is not suppose to show common sense or his own interpretation of the intent..

he made the right call according to a very poor law IMO.

Did is well worth a follow, top bloke and doesnt play to the crowd just says what he thinks..just like Keane did last night but people are dismissing that as his 'anti-united' agenda..i dont always agree with Didi Hamann on my club but its not cos his 'anti=liverpool' agenda its cos we disagree.... simple as..

On a lesser scale, you could probably say the same about City this year.

They've looked complacent. I blame the manager there though. With Real it's the players mainly. Jose hasn't won them over and he's done that everywhere else.