i dont understand why he is pleading to not get banned when he so easily gave up his identity..
complete fking moron
Not surprising though Greg, is it?
I have a few volunteers... they are a bit shy and need me to speak up for them though
Pathos is an amazing place, I stayed in Limmasol which is also awesome. I loved Cyprus. Beautiful beaches, fantastic looking women and you just know you'd enjoy the night life there with all the nice weather conditions. Really want to go back there in the future and visit the Turkish side of it
VC
wasnt Joe Brown a singer?
Pathos is now ridiculously over developed right up to Coral Beach
Well this is quite a thread. The OP is a moron.
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I concur.
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Ive stayed in protoras a couple of times which is nice but a tad quet. Aya Napa's round the corner though
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Macca
What hotels did you stay in when you went to Protaras? I've been there 3 times and absolutely loved it. Best place I've ever been to on holiday.
2 goals in 35 games....
that is all.
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335)
posted 3 minutes ago
VC
wasnt Joe Brown a singer?
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One of those all round entertainer type chaps, but mainly a singer, yes.
I remember him from being on loads of TV game shows.
There was four of us sat in this bar getting wasted, when Joe comes in and buys every one a drink, and invited us onto his yacht, which was moored in Paphos harbour.
His daughter Sam (who later had some hit singles of her own) was around 16 at the time and well weird and into goth.
But well fit mind.
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335)
posted 9 minutes ago
Pathos is now ridiculously over developed right up to Coral Beach
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Limasol is now well beyond what I would remeber, so I am told.
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 20 minutes ago
i dont understand why he is pleading to not get banned when he so easily gave up his identity..
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He pleads not to get banned and then does his utmost best to ensure he does.
Utter idiot that lad.
I stayed in Limmasol which is also awesome
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its a fecking Russian mafia infested dump that looks like what Luton-on-Sea might look like.
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335)
posted 2 minutes ago
I stayed in Limmasol which is also awesome
**
its a fecking Russian mafia infested dump that looks like what Luton-on-Sea might look like.
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It never used to be. It used to be a great holiday resort, full of blonde Swedish stunners in the summer.
The ruskies might move on now their money has been pulled.
the cypriot gvt had big plans for Limmasol creating a St.Tropez type marina.
That might be knocked on the head now of course. Unless the Ruskies build it!
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335)
posted 2 minutes ago
the cypriot gvt had big plans for Limmasol creating a St.Tropez type marina.
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They would have been better of doing that around Paphos.
Macca
What hotels did you stay in when you went to Protaras? I've been there 3 times and absolutely loved it. Best place I've ever been to on holiday.
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Cant remember but it was next to that tiny beach. There was a bunch of grass that the sunbeds were on. On the opposite side of the beach was a restaurant we ate in most nights were this Cypriot guy cooked steaks at your table. Sadly, last time I went to Cyprus and stayed in Nissi, we went to see himand he had passed away. His wife was running the place. Don't know if you ever went but it was right on the front, near the beach with a plastic slide on the grassy bit in front.
Real Shirley Valentine type place
Haven't read the 241 comments before my comment, but I agree with every single bit of this Article. Like Valencia, I will give him one more season before I would be happy to see him shipped off and replaced.
Having a good work rate is not enough in modern day Football
People go on and say, his work rate deserves a starting place, but you could get a winger which has his work rate or a stiker, that is more effective than Welbeck in either position
Valencia is 28. Welbeck is 22 - and a young 22 at that. He possesses raw tools one could only wish for in a young striker. Unfortunately, he has been played on the wing, yet, has soldiered on and managed to put in some excellent all round performances.
His achievement at the age of 21 are not be diminished. He was leading the line for both club and country and doing a very mature and productive job.
Welbeck is a No.9 that has potential to be brilliant there once he is given opportunity in that position - not less than, you know, 5 games - grows fully into his body and gains some composure and confidence. Only a fool would not see these obvious raw qualities and fantastic technique that stare you in the face, for the sake of the statistics sheet which involves him in a very different position. In 5 years there will be some red faces in regards to Welbeck. There is a whole host of 'world class' strikers that had not done half the things Welbeck has done and shown at his age. I just hope he gets the chances to grow at No.9 at United, and not elsewhere.
As for the laughable post above, Valencia is non comparable. He is 28, showing no signs of improvement, has a limited game on a tactical level, holds us back, is playing woefully and in regards to innate talent on a technical level, is a bit of a joke - a little bit like another of the forwards on our books.
Welbeck is a No.9 that has potential to be brilliant there once he is given opportunity in that position - not less than, you know, 5 games - grows fully into his body and gains some composure and confidence. Only a fool would not see these obvious raw qualities and fantastic technique that stare you in the face, for the sake of the statistics sheet which involves him in a very different position. In 5 years there will be some red faces in regards to Welbeck. There is a whole host of 'world class' strikers that had not done half the things Welbeck has done and shown at his age. I just hope he gets the chances to grow at No.9 at United, and not elsewhere.
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May be a bit excessive to copy paste all this but well said.
Welbeck has really good potential and I want to see it filled with us.
Exactly. People have short memories. Only last season did he manage to displace Berbatov and Hernandez due to his all round abilities that allowed us to play better football. He was doing a fine job, and had he the opportunity to carry on that partnership with Rooney, or Kagawa, it is almost certain he would have added to his goal tally and continued his good form. This hasn't happened, he originally found to it difficult to adjust out wide and still does, at times, and he hasn't been leading the line so that tap ins and easy chances come his way. His composure infront of goals needs a lot work. But developing footballers is not about immediate end product Van Persie 2011 style, it's about nurturing obvious footballing talent with games and experience. Young strikers improve composure as time goes on. Given Welbeck's history of scoring good goals, the finishing is there it just needs composure. When you haven't got the footballing ability, your time at United will be limited. One will soon realise this and be off, for his sake.
I'd actually be happy for him to go out on loan to a team like Swansea or Everton, play up top every game, bag 15-20 PL goals and come back the season after, for his sake actually. Sir Alex is currently mismanaging too many of our players right now and a good 7-10 players would be better players elsewhere, which is a shame. People go on about selling players quite often, but don't take into account that fact that we need good squad players, which I find weird. There are few better 3rd/4th choice strikers, if any at all, than Welbeck. Such a strange outlook on the game, some people have.
I'd actually be happy for him to go out on loan to a team like Swansea or Everton, play up top every game, bag 15-20 PL goals and come back the season after, for his sake actually.
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Why come back?
He won't displace RVP for at least 4 years
I agree with everything else you wrote there by the way
Depends on Fergie, Macca.
If he wants to keep playing RVP as the main man until he's 33 then Welbeck may have to move away to realise his potential.
However, he may want to stick around and be a squad player or try and force himself into the side.
Far too early for us to be saying we should get rid after one poor season at 22. I'm sure Fergie will make the best decision for the team.
Fergie has his flaws but I always trust his judgement when it comes to strikers.
RVP has had a good season this year (though his scoring has trailed off in the last couple of games).
RVP is 29. He is at his peak. Realistically he could stay like this for annother 2-3 seasons (barring any serious injuries and so on). At ages 31-33 he would have to be managed more so that should give Welbeck and Little Pea more game time.
The key thing to Welbeck would be playing his natural position. It will help him out. Look at Sturridge, played on the wing at Chelsea and doesn't do much good. Plays up front for Liverpool and is scoring goals. This is what Welbeck is lacking. If Welbeck had Hernandez's finishing, he'd be close to the perfect striker for United.
Sadly, I think if Welbeck is used as he is now he'd be a new Park/O'Shea figure at United and not really reach his potential. He would be better off moving to a top league in Germany, Spain or Italy or top half teams in the PL (such as Swansea or Tottenham already mentioned by others).
I can bet if he leaves and starts banging them in for fun as a number 9 people on here would go on about him like they have done in the past with Rossi, Pique and more recently Pogba.
Far too early for us to be saying we should get rid after one poor season at 22. I'm sure Fergie will make the best decision for the team.
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Not saying we should get rid at all bud
Thinking about Danny wanting to go as he won't get to play where he wants.
We didn't pay 24m for Van Persie for just a couple of seasons in my opinion
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posted on 4/4/13
i dont understand why he is pleading to not get banned when he so easily gave up his identity..
complete fking moron
posted on 4/4/13
Not surprising though Greg, is it?
posted on 4/4/13
I have a few volunteers... they are a bit shy and need me to speak up for them though
posted on 4/4/13
Pathos is an amazing place, I stayed in Limmasol which is also awesome. I loved Cyprus. Beautiful beaches, fantastic looking women and you just know you'd enjoy the night life there with all the nice weather conditions. Really want to go back there in the future and visit the Turkish side of it
posted on 4/4/13
VC
wasnt Joe Brown a singer?
posted on 4/4/13
Pathos is now ridiculously over developed right up to Coral Beach
posted on 4/4/13
Well this is quite a thread. The OP is a moron.
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I concur.
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Ive stayed in protoras a couple of times which is nice but a tad quet. Aya Napa's round the corner though
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Macca
What hotels did you stay in when you went to Protaras? I've been there 3 times and absolutely loved it. Best place I've ever been to on holiday.
posted on 4/4/13
2 goals in 35 games....
that is all.
posted on 4/4/13
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335)
posted 3 minutes ago
VC
wasnt Joe Brown a singer?
................
One of those all round entertainer type chaps, but mainly a singer, yes.
I remember him from being on loads of TV game shows.
There was four of us sat in this bar getting wasted, when Joe comes in and buys every one a drink, and invited us onto his yacht, which was moored in Paphos harbour.
His daughter Sam (who later had some hit singles of her own) was around 16 at the time and well weird and into goth.
But well fit mind.
posted on 4/4/13
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335)
posted 9 minutes ago
Pathos is now ridiculously over developed right up to Coral Beach
...................
Limasol is now well beyond what I would remeber, so I am told.
posted on 4/4/13
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 20 minutes ago
i dont understand why he is pleading to not get banned when he so easily gave up his identity..
..................
He pleads not to get banned and then does his utmost best to ensure he does.
Utter idiot that lad.
posted on 4/4/13
I stayed in Limmasol which is also awesome
**
its a fecking Russian mafia infested dump that looks like what Luton-on-Sea might look like.
posted on 4/4/13
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335)
posted 2 minutes ago
I stayed in Limmasol which is also awesome
**
its a fecking Russian mafia infested dump that looks like what Luton-on-Sea might look like.
......................
It never used to be. It used to be a great holiday resort, full of blonde Swedish stunners in the summer.
The ruskies might move on now their money has been pulled.
posted on 4/4/13
the cypriot gvt had big plans for Limmasol creating a St.Tropez type marina.
That might be knocked on the head now of course. Unless the Ruskies build it!
posted on 4/4/13
comment by RedBlackandWhiteside (U2335)
posted 2 minutes ago
the cypriot gvt had big plans for Limmasol creating a St.Tropez type marina.
.............
They would have been better of doing that around Paphos.
posted on 4/4/13
Macca
What hotels did you stay in when you went to Protaras? I've been there 3 times and absolutely loved it. Best place I've ever been to on holiday.
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Cant remember but it was next to that tiny beach. There was a bunch of grass that the sunbeds were on. On the opposite side of the beach was a restaurant we ate in most nights were this Cypriot guy cooked steaks at your table. Sadly, last time I went to Cyprus and stayed in Nissi, we went to see himand he had passed away. His wife was running the place. Don't know if you ever went but it was right on the front, near the beach with a plastic slide on the grassy bit in front.
Real Shirley Valentine type place
posted on 4/4/13
Haven't read the 241 comments before my comment, but I agree with every single bit of this Article. Like Valencia, I will give him one more season before I would be happy to see him shipped off and replaced.
Having a good work rate is not enough in modern day Football
posted on 4/4/13
People go on and say, his work rate deserves a starting place, but you could get a winger which has his work rate or a stiker, that is more effective than Welbeck in either position
posted on 4/4/13
Valencia is 28. Welbeck is 22 - and a young 22 at that. He possesses raw tools one could only wish for in a young striker. Unfortunately, he has been played on the wing, yet, has soldiered on and managed to put in some excellent all round performances.
His achievement at the age of 21 are not be diminished. He was leading the line for both club and country and doing a very mature and productive job.
Welbeck is a No.9 that has potential to be brilliant there once he is given opportunity in that position - not less than, you know, 5 games - grows fully into his body and gains some composure and confidence. Only a fool would not see these obvious raw qualities and fantastic technique that stare you in the face, for the sake of the statistics sheet which involves him in a very different position. In 5 years there will be some red faces in regards to Welbeck. There is a whole host of 'world class' strikers that had not done half the things Welbeck has done and shown at his age. I just hope he gets the chances to grow at No.9 at United, and not elsewhere.
As for the laughable post above, Valencia is non comparable. He is 28, showing no signs of improvement, has a limited game on a tactical level, holds us back, is playing woefully and in regards to innate talent on a technical level, is a bit of a joke - a little bit like another of the forwards on our books.
posted on 4/4/13
Welbeck is a No.9 that has potential to be brilliant there once he is given opportunity in that position - not less than, you know, 5 games - grows fully into his body and gains some composure and confidence. Only a fool would not see these obvious raw qualities and fantastic technique that stare you in the face, for the sake of the statistics sheet which involves him in a very different position. In 5 years there will be some red faces in regards to Welbeck. There is a whole host of 'world class' strikers that had not done half the things Welbeck has done and shown at his age. I just hope he gets the chances to grow at No.9 at United, and not elsewhere.
..............................................
May be a bit excessive to copy paste all this but well said.
Welbeck has really good potential and I want to see it filled with us.
posted on 5/4/13
Exactly. People have short memories. Only last season did he manage to displace Berbatov and Hernandez due to his all round abilities that allowed us to play better football. He was doing a fine job, and had he the opportunity to carry on that partnership with Rooney, or Kagawa, it is almost certain he would have added to his goal tally and continued his good form. This hasn't happened, he originally found to it difficult to adjust out wide and still does, at times, and he hasn't been leading the line so that tap ins and easy chances come his way. His composure infront of goals needs a lot work. But developing footballers is not about immediate end product Van Persie 2011 style, it's about nurturing obvious footballing talent with games and experience. Young strikers improve composure as time goes on. Given Welbeck's history of scoring good goals, the finishing is there it just needs composure. When you haven't got the footballing ability, your time at United will be limited. One will soon realise this and be off, for his sake.
I'd actually be happy for him to go out on loan to a team like Swansea or Everton, play up top every game, bag 15-20 PL goals and come back the season after, for his sake actually. Sir Alex is currently mismanaging too many of our players right now and a good 7-10 players would be better players elsewhere, which is a shame. People go on about selling players quite often, but don't take into account that fact that we need good squad players, which I find weird. There are few better 3rd/4th choice strikers, if any at all, than Welbeck. Such a strange outlook on the game, some people have.
posted on 5/4/13
I'd actually be happy for him to go out on loan to a team like Swansea or Everton, play up top every game, bag 15-20 PL goals and come back the season after, for his sake actually.
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Why come back?
He won't displace RVP for at least 4 years
I agree with everything else you wrote there by the way
posted on 5/4/13
Depends on Fergie, Macca.
If he wants to keep playing RVP as the main man until he's 33 then Welbeck may have to move away to realise his potential.
However, he may want to stick around and be a squad player or try and force himself into the side.
Far too early for us to be saying we should get rid after one poor season at 22. I'm sure Fergie will make the best decision for the team.
Fergie has his flaws but I always trust his judgement when it comes to strikers.
posted on 5/4/13
RVP has had a good season this year (though his scoring has trailed off in the last couple of games).
RVP is 29. He is at his peak. Realistically he could stay like this for annother 2-3 seasons (barring any serious injuries and so on). At ages 31-33 he would have to be managed more so that should give Welbeck and Little Pea more game time.
The key thing to Welbeck would be playing his natural position. It will help him out. Look at Sturridge, played on the wing at Chelsea and doesn't do much good. Plays up front for Liverpool and is scoring goals. This is what Welbeck is lacking. If Welbeck had Hernandez's finishing, he'd be close to the perfect striker for United.
Sadly, I think if Welbeck is used as he is now he'd be a new Park/O'Shea figure at United and not really reach his potential. He would be better off moving to a top league in Germany, Spain or Italy or top half teams in the PL (such as Swansea or Tottenham already mentioned by others).
I can bet if he leaves and starts banging them in for fun as a number 9 people on here would go on about him like they have done in the past with Rossi, Pique and more recently Pogba.
posted on 5/4/13
Far too early for us to be saying we should get rid after one poor season at 22. I'm sure Fergie will make the best decision for the team.
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Not saying we should get rid at all bud
Thinking about Danny wanting to go as he won't get to play where he wants.
We didn't pay 24m for Van Persie for just a couple of seasons in my opinion
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