Yes, I think we can all agree on that.

He says he turned that down to fight haye

No you got it right first time, title joker

Why, doesn't he want a world title?

So haye really should be the mandatory for wlad for his WBA belt, it's a mess

Even having fury ranked that high is a joke too he's barley fought anyone of note so far

No, the WBA have a Super Champion and a regular champion.

Wlad the super champ is fighting Povetkin the regular champ.

Money talks I guess d4, or he simply chit his pants

Ah ok fair enough, it's as bad as the wwe with super champs

Rest of the division is pretty bad too, to be honest

Lightweight to super middle are where the best fighters currently fight

Think there is something like 27 world title belt out there for 17 division, they you have your super champs, interim champs, champs in recess, diamond belt holders, silver belt holders and everything else in between.

I believe the Haye camp over Klitschko. We have seen countless times boxers complain about Klitschko's dirty negotiations behind the scenes. We all saw on camera that Haye had to fight Chisora to get shot at Vitali which he did. Vitali is ducking it now.

Haye vs Fury will probably be a eliminator for the WBC. Winner will get ranked number one.

Kneerash

Tell me who should be ranked higher than Fury?

It's a mess d4

Anyway I'm off to bed hopefully haye v fury gets officially announced and we see what happens from there

Boente doesn't want it, he knows Vitali is way past his best and doesn't want Vitali to go out that way.

But that is the world of boxing today, if you are the champ you don't have to fight the best.

Same here, I should be at least be getting an early night tonight.

I don't know respected like I said it's a poor division I just don't think a guy who's had less the 20 fights should be ranked so high, but with what's below him there's not much competition, I was Hoping fury would fight Seth Mitchell but think he lost his last fight so don't think that will happen, could have been an interesting fight

Lol Fury would batter Mitchell, Seth has the worst chin in boxing. Cant take a punch at all. Fury has 21 fights and beat ranked fighters like Chisora, Cunningham and Johnson who have all fought for a world title or was world champion.

Fair enough just don't think he's done much to justify such a high ranking but it's a poor division so not the hadest to move up the ranking quickly.

Mitchell looked very good when he kod ibragimov and he's only lost once in twenty or so fights I'd lime to have seen it as it would have been a good way for fury to continue making a name for himself in the states but that loss has set Mitchell back and fury will now be looking up the rankings not down

It seems fighting 20 nobodies is how you get ranked these days, the organisations should really do more to force top 10 fighters to fight each other.

The Klits do get away with far too much in terms of holding and leaning on. When Haye caught Wlad in the 12th, the ref quite happily let Wlad hold on til his head cleared. Haye was poor that night and Booth got the tactics wrong but despite this Haye still did better than anyone has done against Wlad for yrs but yet Wlad completely rules out a rematch in an empty division???

He was healing up, he broke in 2/3 weeks prior to the fight.

It was the lack of sparring because of the toe which was the problem more than the movement in the fight.
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That dosent really go with Hayes claim that he couldnt do anything in the fight cause he was in agony because of his toe.

Haye said he couldnt do anything because he couldnt land his punches because he could not put any weight on his foot...it was a lame excuse, he had been medically cleared to fight if it was that much of a problem he shouldnt have entered the ring, he did and at that point he lost all right to complain about it.


Potvekin will get blasted by Wlad, he as been avoiding him for about three years now because he knows he wont handle him.

Hayes record of ducking and complaining is pretty evident to be honest

Was supposed to fight Vitali - pulled out because he was injured, low and behold he fights Valuev soon after

Fights Wlad - crys about his injured toe and how it meant he couldnt box

Was supposed to fight Charr - pulls out because he is injured only to try and fight Fury.

Vitali looks old and past it - well guess who now wants to fight him...

Haye was a fantastic Cruiser Weight, however since he moved up he has fought, bums, pulled out of fights and done relatively little while all the time running his mouth

Haye stopped sparring 20 days before the fight, it is normally a week before the fight when you stop sparring.

I already stated the issues with canceling the fight.

Most fighters have some kind of knock, when going into a fight to varying degrees.

Valuev and Ruiz: World champions
Chisora: never been stopped before, troubled Vitali for 12 rounds and Haye was promised the Vitali fight he he won it. And it was what the public were calling for.

Audley : The stupid British public wanted that as well.