Don't necessarily mind it being in Qatar, everywhere should have a fair chance of holding the WC. What I do have a problem with, is if it gets changed to the winter, just wouldn't feel the same for me.
Qatar have got 7 years to sort out that A/C in the stadiums, that's doable surely!
Exactly my point. They have plenty of time and money to figure out a way of having it in the summer without having too many problems
Everyone is just upset that we got shafted by FIFA over our own WC and are now looking for something to moan about.
Quatar/FIFA could help themselves if they came out with some solid plans for the event.
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Quatar/FIFA could help themselves if they came out with some solid plans for the event.
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I agree. They've been fairly quiet thus far towards how they intend to deal with the issues mentioned. A lot of the younger generation have been educated in the US and UK, so they're very familiar with our cultural needs.
Brennie Babes, at what point would you say, if at all, does the weather turn cool enough in Qatar to hold a WC without fancy a/c stadia etc Sept? Oct? Nov? Later?
I think that FIFA should have taken into consideration whether Qatar could host the tournament in the summer and Qatar should have offered solutions for that in their bid rather than FIFA randomly picking a name out of the hat for who they think deserves to host it which seems to be the case as only now is Blatter even considering the consequences of hosting a tournament there
Same with me, it's a summer event, if it's too hot to play I don't know but for me moving it to the winter to accommodate it is unacceptable.
Hmm. Well it depends on what you consider cool enough. If you say 35C, as that's been done in Europe before, then the only time when you couldn't really do it would be June, July, August, September. It is possible to have unseasonally warm weather in other months though, so it depends really.
In the winter it's normally a fairly pleasant 25-28C during the day and about 15-20C at night (in the cities. The desert can get much colder)
winter is fine
people are scared to changes
Qatar have never said play in the winter. They have promised state of the art A/C stadiums and should be allowed to deliver this. The temperatures in this tournament will not be much different to what we had in usa 94. I don't understand the fuss about the heat. Been ro the gulf loads of times that time of the year and its hot but not unbearable.
There's no way I'd want to forsake a Pl and champions league season for a world cup in winter which most people stand no chance of attending (probably priced out) and which England may not even qualify for, let alone win. Fifa are to blame for this, the bids were for a summer world cup, surely it occurred to someone that summer in Qatar is as inhospitable as it gets. As for air conditioning in stadiums, how irresponsible can you get? A country that's dominating industry lies in supplying much of the world in their air polluting ways would only be adding to that. The wealth on display and complete disregard for the environment are much more obscene than any of the elements of human nature that their frankly medieval laws strive to prevent. Imagine he Vatican hosting the world cup and crank up the temperature by 25 degrees.
I totally agree with OP. I don't think it's fair to go on about "you can't host the world cup if you're not like us". People have different culture and opinion in their countries which should be respected.
My main issue is the heat.
Is it still hot at night during the summer?
against A/C ..causes so much damage to ozone layer and with these stadiums a lot of these gases will be released wh. anyway stadiums will be cooler but outside will be even hotter where A.c. will be exhausting.
In the night the temps are in the early/mids 30s.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/gallery/2010/dec/02/world-cup-2022-qatar-stadiums-pictures
The stadiums look amazing if they manage to pull them off.
this was the worst decision in the history of worst decisions
Qatar is a joke
There's no way I'd want to forsake a Pl and champions league season for a world cup in winter which most people stand no chance of attending (probably priced out) and which England may not even qualify for, let alone win. Fifa are to blame for this, the bids were for a summer world cup, surely it occurred to someone that summer in Qatar is as inhospitable as it gets. As for air conditioning in stadiums, how irresponsible can you get? A country that's dominating industry lies in supplying much of the world in their air polluting ways would only be adding to that. The wealth on display and complete disregard for the environment are much more obscene than any of the elements of human nature that their frankly medieval laws strive to prevent. Imagine he Vatican hosting the world cup and crank up the temperature by 25 degrees.
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If you look at the plans most, if not all of the energy will be via solar panelling. They're actually quite keen on green energy initiatives, even if the gulf is thhe lesat carbon-neutral place on the planet.
Is it still hot at night during the summer?
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Yeah it's still about 30-35, depending on the conditions. Can also be very humid
Looking around the interwebs it seems FIFA want it played in late November with the final on December 18. How would they rearrange the domestic leagues?
Probably similar to the MLS / Brazil
No idea. It seems that they're caving to pressure from people saying it's too hot. I really don't think it would be a problem, and would rather they showed a bit of spine and stuck to their original guns, rather than backing down
I suspect they'd also have to shift around the transfer window dates
They can already control the atmosphere/humidity etc at Wimbledon when the roof is closed. With all the money they have it cant be that hard to make the stadiums and training facilities bearable.
I guess one problem that they have is that it's a small country of effectively one city and nothing else. The infrastructure and facilities needed for this kind of project will be enormous in scale compared to the size of the place itself. Maybe teams will go to training camps in Dubai and other ocal destinations with similar climates?
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posted on 10/8/13
Don't necessarily mind it being in Qatar, everywhere should have a fair chance of holding the WC. What I do have a problem with, is if it gets changed to the winter, just wouldn't feel the same for me.
Qatar have got 7 years to sort out that A/C in the stadiums, that's doable surely!
posted on 10/8/13
Exactly my point. They have plenty of time and money to figure out a way of having it in the summer without having too many problems
posted on 10/8/13
Everyone is just upset that we got shafted by FIFA over our own WC and are now looking for something to moan about.
Quatar/FIFA could help themselves if they came out with some solid plans for the event.
posted on 10/8/13
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posted on 10/8/13
Quatar/FIFA could help themselves if they came out with some solid plans for the event.
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I agree. They've been fairly quiet thus far towards how they intend to deal with the issues mentioned. A lot of the younger generation have been educated in the US and UK, so they're very familiar with our cultural needs.
posted on 10/8/13
Brennie Babes, at what point would you say, if at all, does the weather turn cool enough in Qatar to hold a WC without fancy a/c stadia etc Sept? Oct? Nov? Later?
posted on 10/8/13
I think that FIFA should have taken into consideration whether Qatar could host the tournament in the summer and Qatar should have offered solutions for that in their bid rather than FIFA randomly picking a name out of the hat for who they think deserves to host it which seems to be the case as only now is Blatter even considering the consequences of hosting a tournament there
posted on 10/8/13
Same with me, it's a summer event, if it's too hot to play I don't know but for me moving it to the winter to accommodate it is unacceptable.
posted on 10/8/13
Hmm. Well it depends on what you consider cool enough. If you say 35C, as that's been done in Europe before, then the only time when you couldn't really do it would be June, July, August, September. It is possible to have unseasonally warm weather in other months though, so it depends really.
In the winter it's normally a fairly pleasant 25-28C during the day and about 15-20C at night (in the cities. The desert can get much colder)
posted on 10/8/13
winter is fine
people are scared to changes
posted on 10/8/13
Qatar have never said play in the winter. They have promised state of the art A/C stadiums and should be allowed to deliver this. The temperatures in this tournament will not be much different to what we had in usa 94. I don't understand the fuss about the heat. Been ro the gulf loads of times that time of the year and its hot but not unbearable.
posted on 10/8/13
There's no way I'd want to forsake a Pl and champions league season for a world cup in winter which most people stand no chance of attending (probably priced out) and which England may not even qualify for, let alone win. Fifa are to blame for this, the bids were for a summer world cup, surely it occurred to someone that summer in Qatar is as inhospitable as it gets. As for air conditioning in stadiums, how irresponsible can you get? A country that's dominating industry lies in supplying much of the world in their air polluting ways would only be adding to that. The wealth on display and complete disregard for the environment are much more obscene than any of the elements of human nature that their frankly medieval laws strive to prevent. Imagine he Vatican hosting the world cup and crank up the temperature by 25 degrees.
posted on 10/8/13
I totally agree with OP. I don't think it's fair to go on about "you can't host the world cup if you're not like us". People have different culture and opinion in their countries which should be respected.
My main issue is the heat.
posted on 10/8/13
Is it still hot at night during the summer?
posted on 10/8/13
against A/C ..causes so much damage to ozone layer and with these stadiums a lot of these gases will be released wh. anyway stadiums will be cooler but outside will be even hotter where A.c. will be exhausting.
posted on 10/8/13
In the night the temps are in the early/mids 30s.
posted on 10/8/13
http://www.theguardian.com/football/gallery/2010/dec/02/world-cup-2022-qatar-stadiums-pictures
The stadiums look amazing if they manage to pull them off.
posted on 10/8/13
this was the worst decision in the history of worst decisions
Qatar is a joke
posted on 10/8/13
There's no way I'd want to forsake a Pl and champions league season for a world cup in winter which most people stand no chance of attending (probably priced out) and which England may not even qualify for, let alone win. Fifa are to blame for this, the bids were for a summer world cup, surely it occurred to someone that summer in Qatar is as inhospitable as it gets. As for air conditioning in stadiums, how irresponsible can you get? A country that's dominating industry lies in supplying much of the world in their air polluting ways would only be adding to that. The wealth on display and complete disregard for the environment are much more obscene than any of the elements of human nature that their frankly medieval laws strive to prevent. Imagine he Vatican hosting the world cup and crank up the temperature by 25 degrees.
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If you look at the plans most, if not all of the energy will be via solar panelling. They're actually quite keen on green energy initiatives, even if the gulf is thhe lesat carbon-neutral place on the planet.
Is it still hot at night during the summer?
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Yeah it's still about 30-35, depending on the conditions. Can also be very humid
posted on 10/8/13
Looking around the interwebs it seems FIFA want it played in late November with the final on December 18. How would they rearrange the domestic leagues?
posted on 10/8/13
Probably similar to the MLS / Brazil
posted on 10/8/13
No idea. It seems that they're caving to pressure from people saying it's too hot. I really don't think it would be a problem, and would rather they showed a bit of spine and stuck to their original guns, rather than backing down
posted on 10/8/13
I suspect they'd also have to shift around the transfer window dates
posted on 10/8/13
They can already control the atmosphere/humidity etc at Wimbledon when the roof is closed. With all the money they have it cant be that hard to make the stadiums and training facilities bearable.
posted on 10/8/13
I guess one problem that they have is that it's a small country of effectively one city and nothing else. The infrastructure and facilities needed for this kind of project will be enormous in scale compared to the size of the place itself. Maybe teams will go to training camps in Dubai and other ocal destinations with similar climates?
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