City have done it to an extent. Moura chose PSG over us because of money. In certain cases, throwing money would get certain players. If we are willing to throw money at Tottenham for Bale, then surely we could have done that already.

If we are willing to pay that much for Bale, we surely could have signed Thiago and Lucas Moura.
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Not if they didn't want to come to UTD.

It is so easy to think we can just throw money about and get any player we want. If that were the case, City would have already done it.
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i know hazard and lucas both turned down utd allegedly for other reasons. but do you think if we took the we are getting the player at any price and money was not an issue approach like chelsea/psg/monaco/madrid/barca/bayern do we will not land our targets bar the ones already at the biggest club.

Why should we be throwing money at the likes of Moura though?

Bale, i can understand the price tag, even if i think it is too much.

But i'm glad our club don't just bow down to any old wages demands, just to get another "potentially great" player.

"i know hazard and lucas both turned down utd allegedly for other reasons. but do you think if we took the we are getting the player at any price and money was not an issue approach like chelsea/psg/monaco/madrid/barca/bayern do we will not land our targets bar the ones already at the biggest club."

Hazard was down to agent fees - both Manchester clubs have a policy of not paying them to the extent Chelsea still do.

In terms of could you afford to, of course you could and you have made signings as a percentage of revenue as big as this before numerous times. The only question is whether it is money well spent on an area you need to strengthen, or would a couple of midfielders be better.

If you can understand the price for Bale, then the price of Moura should be something you also understand.

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my point is that money has been the limiting factor in many of our transfer activities. Not location, weather, manager, playing style etc etc

paying 85 million for bale would suggest money was no longer a limiting factor and will give us the strength to pursue players i consider better fit.

The question i'm asking in this article is would United supporters be happy if we miraculously paid £85 million for Bale this transfer window?
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There are only 2 players in this world I would consider such money spent on and they are Messi and Ronaldo. No one else.

I would be upset with Utd if we spent half of that on Bale

If you can understand the price for Bale, then the price of Moura should be something you also understand.
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Not really... Bale is a proven PL player, on the back of an outstanding season.

Moura had never played a single minute of club football on European soil and was a huge gamble, for the figure being bandied about.

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my point is that money has been the limiting factor in many of our transfer activities. Not location, weather, manager, playing style etc etc
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and it is a valid point for some players.... But people speak like it is a valid point for ALL players.

We could have offered £400k a week to Thiago and he might still have turned us down, purely because he knows Pep will take him to the next level of his career.

I have to disagree, Dunc. Bale isn't a one season wonder, he was only class for half a season.

I await a tirade of abuse from Rob.

bale is an excellent player but those who watch football know a lot of hype is also involved to try and elevate him to a status which he is not at yet.

And the simple reason is marketing the EPL needs a poster boy

Ginger, exactly. The same thing happened with Rooney.

This is all irrelevant anyway as we won't be signing Bale.

anyone think the Real might have been using Bale to try and force Ronaldo to sign his contract?

Would be interesting, especially if Bale is now unsettled and needs a move. Swoop in with a £60m offer.

We could have offered £400k a week to Thiago and he might still have turned us down, purely because he knows Pep will take him to the next level of his career.
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Not true. First we were never in for thiago and he was leaving barca for one reason to become a key player if we had offered him silly money before the u21 championships do you honestly believe him and his agent would wait around to see if pep wanted him.

surely you are not that naive.

we could only dream of paying 85m for Bale if we get in the region of 50m for Rooney.

We are in debt. We dont have that kind of money available for (one) transfers.

surely you are not that naive.
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There is nothing naive about thinking that alot of players are not solely motivated by money. It is just a fact, go ask RVP.

You are arguing a different point though, re:Thiago, your argument is based around timing, not money. Regardless, i'm sure Thiago's agent would have found a way to chat to Pep "UTD are in for Thiago, do you want to get in too, i know how much you rate him".

Do you really think everyone just sits around waiting for bids to come in?

I'd stop throwing the word niave around so lightly.

Darren. I'll let you off as it looks like Australia will win this test.

We'll see, Robert.

In answer to the OP I think we could use the money to strengthen the team better.

Problem with these sort of articles is that we are talking hypothetically and so it's difficult to know who we could realistically sign with that sort of money (and that goes for Bale).

He'd be a quality signing for us if it ever happened, sadly I think he'll end up at Madrid in the near future.

"There is nothing naive about thinking that alot of players are not solely motivated by money. It is just a fact, go ask RVP"

No player is solely motivated by money, RVP included. It still plays a very big part though, again RVP included.

There is nothing naive about thinking that a lot of players are not solely motivated by money.
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that is one point we will never agree on in that case.
I believe money comes first before all other things are considered for 99.99999% of players. I might just be too cynical in my views.

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 54 minutes ago
If you can understand the price for Bale, then the price of Moura should be something you also understand.
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Not really... Bale is a proven PL player, on the back of an outstanding season.

Moura had never played a single minute of club football on European soil and was a huge gamble, for the figure being bandied about.
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And how much European experience did Neymar have before Barca shelled out 55million big ones?

that is one point we will never agree on in that case.
I believe money comes first before all other things are considered for 99.99999% of players. I might just be too cynical in my views.

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RVP and Berbatov both turned down city and more money to play for utd.

Moura had never played a single minute of club football on European soil and was a huge gamble, for the figure being bandied about




What do you think our accounting network in brazil is for? Anybody who had seen much if him prior (Olympics aside) knew he'd be a success whenever he went.

I don't think we should have bowed to the fact PSG offered more, but that doesn't excuse ignorance towards a players ability just because you oersinay haven't seen him play.

Accounting network scouting**

Would you take Bale for £85 million?
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If Rooney leaves for £40+m then yes. If not then no.