well that suprised nobody, when you jokers who cant bat always relying on bowlers to help that this is what happens, sadly though evan with this embarresment it wont change what needs changing
6th in the rankings with one defeat damn
We've been there done that. the pcb needs a complete overhaul - the majority of managers and decision makers need firing.
If anything we got away with it this series. Anyone thts been following the series knows that Zimbabwe were unlucky not to win the first one...
I know people blame the pcb and the selection commitee.
But what if you're just sh1 T?
Then you try out new players- which is kinda the point neon.
Will you get offended.
Trying to WUM here
Not possible to offend us on this one mate.. Most of Paks fans have been critical of the team since the squad was selected and this was an accident waiting to happen........ Zimbabwe played the better cricket over the 5 days. Credit where it's due end of the day
It may be what you needed.
If this loss doesn't Shake the pcb up a little.
Nothing will.
Not sure where to start though. I don't think it's one or two players. Really think the term 'back to the drawing board' is the best way I could sum it up.
Without Ajmal, this could be one of the weakest Pak teams for some time.
Yeah agreed. Above everything else though its their weak and fragile mentality that's really frustrating. They play without a real purpose and passion.... Sleep walking in a cricket field at best.....
Hoping its because they haven't played tests in a while tho and they can show some fight vs Saffers
In the end we did well to draw 1-1. That's how bad we have been. Out of 10 days of test we dominated in 2.
Like A14 said our mentality is awful. This comes from the manager and skipper who are obsessed with safety first cricket. I think being ranked 4th really flattered us and 6th is about right.
Ever since the first ODI which we lost (which I didn't watch), I didn't watch anything of this series. Always knew it'd be the same old sameold.
Ramiz Raja, who has been Misbah's vocal supporter, said his captaincy was bereft of fresh ideas. "Misbah contributed to a change of environment and gave stability to the team," he said. "He has given all he could to Pakistan cricket as captain but there is now a predictability and staleness in his captaincy and our brand of cricket."
"He seems to have ran out of ideas, so we need someone with fresh ideas," Raja said. "I think Misbah's shelf-life is over and with these ideas we will stand nowhere before South Africa (in UAE). It seems excitement and aggression is at the lowest point in our cricket, we want to avoid defeat and this hot-and-cold, up-and-down performances must change.
"No one likes to back a losing side, we need to rethink our priorities and set a new direction or else people will stop following cricket. This is the right time now to have a new captain and introduce some new players. The defeat is embarrassing, frustrating and shameful.
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Not often that I agree with rameez raja- but he is spot on here
Problem is no way should it be Hafeez who takes over. Give it back to Khan?
Yeah, has to be khan tests and Afridi ODIS in my opinion. Hafeez doesn't deserve a place in the test team and hardly warrants it in the ODI format either
Pcb met yesterday. Rumours coming out are:
1. PCB considering to appoint YK as Test and ODI captain again.
2. Mohammad Hafeez to be retained as T20 Captain, Could be axed from the Test team.
3. Hafeez and Shafiq are expected to be dropped for the SA series.
4. Farhat, Taufeeq, Sohaib Maqsood, Harris and Amin to make the squad against SA.
5. Malik expected to make a comeback in the T20 squad vs Saffers
umer amin is decent imo should be in the squad
heard about younis khan being appointed as test captain also
not sure about that, think someone younger should get it
Agree with you about umar Amin, should defo be in test team - has the temperament for it, despite his shocker in England in 2010.
Younis for tests is ideal. Not so sure about ODIS though. Still, I'd rather have younis back in ODI team as captain than misbah being captain.... Can't really blame the selectors here, they'd have preferred to give it to hafeez but he's messed up big time!!!
Younis for the short term, with a view to pass onto umar Akmal after he's had a good run in the team and also works on his attitude and ability.
1. PCB considering to appoint YK as Test and ODI captain again.
=============================
I don't want him back for one dayers. Having him and Misbah in the same team means we will struggle to chase and set up big scores. Happy to see him as test skipper but keep him away from the one dayers.
2. Mohammad Hafeez to be retained as T20 Captain, Could be axed from the Test team.
==============================
T20 is his level and in one dayers he should be nothing more than a lower middle order batsman. Test cricket is NOT for him.
3. Hafeez and Shafiq are expected to be dropped for the SA series.
=============================
Harsh on Shafiq but he was terrible against Zimbabwe.
4. Farhat, Taufeeq, Sohaib Maqsood, Harris and Amin to make the squad against SA.
============================
Farhat = FFS How many times will we see this trash. He ALWAYS lets us down.
Taufeeq = Good call, has a good record against SA and was bizzare why he was ever dropped.
Maqsood - This guy is a PCB inside job. Has a average domestic record and looks like he's related to someone on the board.
Harris and Amin - Yeah why not although neither have set the world alite with their one day performances.
5. Malik expected to make a comeback in the T20 squad vs Saffers
===========================
Was only a matter of time and I just don't get it
i'm surprised Fahah Alam is not back in the reckoning. He has an amazing domestic FC record and has clearly improved but I guess he does not have a PCB relation.
A14, I know you are having Misbah withdrawal symptoms but not to worry as his Faisalabad (my folks area) side play in the CLT20 today. Game starts in under 2 hours.
Yeah, I’ve noticed that. Will be keeping an eye on that game... Nothing better than seeing misbah dance down the track in a T20
http://www.crictime.com/watch_live_cricket_streaming_free_4.htm
Misbah disease - 19/2 after 5 over
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posted on 14/9/13
well that suprised nobody, when you jokers who cant bat always relying on bowlers to help that this is what happens, sadly though evan with this embarresment it wont change what needs changing
posted on 14/9/13
6th in the rankings with one defeat damn
posted on 14/9/13
posted on 14/9/13
Trolol
posted on 14/9/13
We've been there done that. the pcb needs a complete overhaul - the majority of managers and decision makers need firing.
If anything we got away with it this series. Anyone thts been following the series knows that Zimbabwe were unlucky not to win the first one...
posted on 14/9/13
I know people blame the pcb and the selection commitee.
But what if you're just sh1 T?
posted on 14/9/13
Then you try out new players- which is kinda the point neon.
posted on 14/9/13
Will you get offended.
Trying to WUM here
posted on 14/9/13
Not possible to offend us on this one mate.. Most of Paks fans have been critical of the team since the squad was selected and this was an accident waiting to happen........ Zimbabwe played the better cricket over the 5 days. Credit where it's due end of the day
posted on 14/9/13
It may be what you needed.
If this loss doesn't Shake the pcb up a little.
Nothing will.
Not sure where to start though. I don't think it's one or two players. Really think the term 'back to the drawing board' is the best way I could sum it up.
Without Ajmal, this could be one of the weakest Pak teams for some time.
posted on 14/9/13
Yeah agreed. Above everything else though its their weak and fragile mentality that's really frustrating. They play without a real purpose and passion.... Sleep walking in a cricket field at best.....
Hoping its because they haven't played tests in a while tho and they can show some fight vs Saffers
posted on 14/9/13
In the end we did well to draw 1-1. That's how bad we have been. Out of 10 days of test we dominated in 2.
Like A14 said our mentality is awful. This comes from the manager and skipper who are obsessed with safety first cricket. I think being ranked 4th really flattered us and 6th is about right.
posted on 14/9/13
Ever since the first ODI which we lost (which I didn't watch), I didn't watch anything of this series. Always knew it'd be the same old sameold.
posted on 15/9/13
Ramiz Raja, who has been Misbah's vocal supporter, said his captaincy was bereft of fresh ideas. "Misbah contributed to a change of environment and gave stability to the team," he said. "He has given all he could to Pakistan cricket as captain but there is now a predictability and staleness in his captaincy and our brand of cricket."
"He seems to have ran out of ideas, so we need someone with fresh ideas," Raja said. "I think Misbah's shelf-life is over and with these ideas we will stand nowhere before South Africa (in UAE). It seems excitement and aggression is at the lowest point in our cricket, we want to avoid defeat and this hot-and-cold, up-and-down performances must change.
"No one likes to back a losing side, we need to rethink our priorities and set a new direction or else people will stop following cricket. This is the right time now to have a new captain and introduce some new players. The defeat is embarrassing, frustrating and shameful.
_________________________________
Not often that I agree with rameez raja- but he is spot on here
posted on 15/9/13
Problem is no way should it be Hafeez who takes over. Give it back to Khan?
posted on 16/9/13
Yeah, has to be khan tests and Afridi ODIS in my opinion. Hafeez doesn't deserve a place in the test team and hardly warrants it in the ODI format either
posted on 17/9/13
Pcb met yesterday. Rumours coming out are:
1. PCB considering to appoint YK as Test and ODI captain again.
2. Mohammad Hafeez to be retained as T20 Captain, Could be axed from the Test team.
3. Hafeez and Shafiq are expected to be dropped for the SA series.
4. Farhat, Taufeeq, Sohaib Maqsood, Harris and Amin to make the squad against SA.
5. Malik expected to make a comeback in the T20 squad vs Saffers
posted on 17/9/13
umer amin is decent imo should be in the squad
heard about younis khan being appointed as test captain also
not sure about that, think someone younger should get it
posted on 17/9/13
Agree with you about umar Amin, should defo be in test team - has the temperament for it, despite his shocker in England in 2010.
Younis for tests is ideal. Not so sure about ODIS though. Still, I'd rather have younis back in ODI team as captain than misbah being captain.... Can't really blame the selectors here, they'd have preferred to give it to hafeez but he's messed up big time!!!
Younis for the short term, with a view to pass onto umar Akmal after he's had a good run in the team and also works on his attitude and ability.
posted on 17/9/13
1. PCB considering to appoint YK as Test and ODI captain again.
=============================
I don't want him back for one dayers. Having him and Misbah in the same team means we will struggle to chase and set up big scores. Happy to see him as test skipper but keep him away from the one dayers.
2. Mohammad Hafeez to be retained as T20 Captain, Could be axed from the Test team.
==============================
T20 is his level and in one dayers he should be nothing more than a lower middle order batsman. Test cricket is NOT for him.
3. Hafeez and Shafiq are expected to be dropped for the SA series.
=============================
Harsh on Shafiq but he was terrible against Zimbabwe.
4. Farhat, Taufeeq, Sohaib Maqsood, Harris and Amin to make the squad against SA.
============================
Farhat = FFS How many times will we see this trash. He ALWAYS lets us down.
Taufeeq = Good call, has a good record against SA and was bizzare why he was ever dropped.
Maqsood - This guy is a PCB inside job. Has a average domestic record and looks like he's related to someone on the board.
Harris and Amin - Yeah why not although neither have set the world alite with their one day performances.
5. Malik expected to make a comeback in the T20 squad vs Saffers
===========================
Was only a matter of time and I just don't get it
i'm surprised Fahah Alam is not back in the reckoning. He has an amazing domestic FC record and has clearly improved but I guess he does not have a PCB relation.
posted on 17/9/13
Well said kash.
posted on 17/9/13
A14, I know you are having Misbah withdrawal symptoms but not to worry as his Faisalabad (my folks area) side play in the CLT20 today. Game starts in under 2 hours.
posted on 17/9/13
Yeah, I’ve noticed that. Will be keeping an eye on that game... Nothing better than seeing misbah dance down the track in a T20
posted on 17/9/13
http://www.crictime.com/watch_live_cricket_streaming_free_4.htm
posted on 17/9/13
Misbah disease - 19/2 after 5 over
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