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*wasnt
Not aren't , that poor grammar
see to be honest, we stood by gazza when he was punchin fak out his wife and he even managed to get himself voted into the greatest ever Rangers starting 11 (something i cant get my head around)
what about mcgregor and all his off field carry on? we stood by him
both gazza's crime andf what mcgregor was accused of are much worse than black having us on a betting slip
Not saying it shouldnt Zach, just trying to understand what the big issue here is??
For me, paying him off would be more hassle than its worth.....no football reasons attached to it in any way whatsoever coz I'm no a big fan of the man in any way.
Just think, if we sack him, he may have the goods on other players, might go to the media, might coz a $hitstorm.....club would get embroiled in all sorts,made to look as if a major betting problem existed within the club alone, when it is no doubt rife thorughout the entire game, all played out thorugh the media, more off field $hite for the tabloids to have a field day with.
Dont want that myself.
The club has been made an example of often enought the past couple of years.....gie him a slap on the wrist, dont do it again ya silly cant, get on with it, get the hedi done and work yer socks off, thats it, its done, much better for the club that imo
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I'm with you Zach, scoring the winning goal is irrelevant the offence was commited when he placed the bet. The fact that other players put on coupons is also irrelevant , his offence was betting against his own team not putting on a line. finally, the Sfa have , again, made an erchie of it by fining him effectively a game a bet
there is slight justification though Zach
Sandaza had no right to go behind Rangers back and allow this "agent" to tout him for an MLS club for more money as he was being paid a fortune at Rangers and was awful, really awful
the club ended up paying him off to avoid a tribunal, the same would happen to Black who now looks like he is showing some of the form and reasons why we signed him
yes he too was terrible last season, but he also scored more than sandaza did, which says how $hite sandaza was
had sandaza been banging them in then i would have had no problem with him doing it through the right channels and not sneaky behind club's back
i know the caller weas a crank but sandaza#s intentions were heard
coop
life must be shocking outwith that cotton wool bubble you live in
i hope you were to young to remember Rangers being embarrassed when gazza was kicking fak out sheryl
your heid might have exploded
Imagine sacking a guy for putting a £5 bet on that wasn't just involving his own side.
It would be like getting the boot from your office job for stealing a bottle of tippex and some post-it notes.
If he had been gambling thousands on Rangers games and had actually tried to influence the game for his bet then fair enough, he'd be out. But he didnt.
He ticked a few boxes, entered £5 and clicked place bet without really thinking about it. He then went onto the field and smashed hit bet to peices by helping to win the game.
Just dont see what al the fuss is about myself
Ban him
How dare he bet against us
tis how it comes across to me
Bit petty, but fair enough, you've made your point, thinly, but made it
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WTF has Gazza beating up his wife got to do with Black !?
Gazza was wrong, Black was wrong ...or most people would think so. You, Super, live with different standards to me . Black bet against Rangers whilst receiving a wage from them is wrong ! i reckon Rangers now may be thinking they've read the feelings of the support wrongly, hence the media staged crap from Black yesterday.
We've been arguing and bitchin like Tim's recently, can't we all just relax and agree that black has Lovely hair?
yous are gettin alll hysterical about it yet are happy to laud gazza as a rangers legend, despite him doing something worse whilst he was a Rangers player
yous are gettin alll hysterical about it yet are happy to laud gazza as a rangers legend, despite him doing something worse whilst he was a Rangers player
Why are you rambling about Gascoigne's misdeamenours ? Two wrongs don't make a right !
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I'd just like to see a bit more substance to your point Zach other than "Black's playing well, Sandaza wisnae, hypocrisy"
Was two entirely different things, I dont think you can apply sacking players for various levels of misconduct in such a blanket manner
Two different regimes
I think if green had been there black would get sacked
FCKING LOVELY HAIR YA DOBBERS
Good point Laudrup, I never thought of that
That's a fair point Laudrup
That's a good point laudrup
At a time when our club is being dragged through the mud and everyone including McCoist says it needs cleansing, we had the chance to put down a moral marker and deal with Black as Symon,Struth,Wallace Souness and Smith would have. We haven't and it speaks volumes.
Interesting wee debate.
For me sandaza was harshly dealt with and we were wrong.
Black it still annoys me he bet against the club but I get the point that he scored the winner and perhaps didn't even know what box he ticked. Many people do put random coupons on apparently.
Have we put down a moral marker?
For all we know Black has a gambling addiction (common with many footballers apparently) perhaps why he was just putting on random coupons because he just had to have a bet on?
Would it be right to just throw him on the scrap heap in those circumstances. There has been internal disciplinary meetings apparently so we don't know the exact circumstances.
To sum up I think we got it right this time and wrong last time.
Ps he has lovely hair
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posted on 17/9/13
*wasnt
Not aren't , that poor grammar
posted on 17/9/13
see to be honest, we stood by gazza when he was punchin fak out his wife and he even managed to get himself voted into the greatest ever Rangers starting 11 (something i cant get my head around)
what about mcgregor and all his off field carry on? we stood by him
both gazza's crime andf what mcgregor was accused of are much worse than black having us on a betting slip
posted on 17/9/13
Not saying it shouldnt Zach, just trying to understand what the big issue here is??
For me, paying him off would be more hassle than its worth.....no football reasons attached to it in any way whatsoever coz I'm no a big fan of the man in any way.
Just think, if we sack him, he may have the goods on other players, might go to the media, might coz a $hitstorm.....club would get embroiled in all sorts,made to look as if a major betting problem existed within the club alone, when it is no doubt rife thorughout the entire game, all played out thorugh the media, more off field $hite for the tabloids to have a field day with.
Dont want that myself.
The club has been made an example of often enought the past couple of years.....gie him a slap on the wrist, dont do it again ya silly cant, get on with it, get the hedi done and work yer socks off, thats it, its done, much better for the club that imo
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posted on 17/9/13
I'm with you Zach, scoring the winning goal is irrelevant the offence was commited when he placed the bet. The fact that other players put on coupons is also irrelevant , his offence was betting against his own team not putting on a line. finally, the Sfa have , again, made an erchie of it by fining him effectively a game a bet
posted on 17/9/13
there is slight justification though Zach
Sandaza had no right to go behind Rangers back and allow this "agent" to tout him for an MLS club for more money as he was being paid a fortune at Rangers and was awful, really awful
the club ended up paying him off to avoid a tribunal, the same would happen to Black who now looks like he is showing some of the form and reasons why we signed him
yes he too was terrible last season, but he also scored more than sandaza did, which says how $hite sandaza was
had sandaza been banging them in then i would have had no problem with him doing it through the right channels and not sneaky behind club's back
i know the caller weas a crank but sandaza#s intentions were heard
posted on 17/9/13
coop
life must be shocking outwith that cotton wool bubble you live in
i hope you were to young to remember Rangers being embarrassed when gazza was kicking fak out sheryl
your heid might have exploded
posted on 17/9/13
Imagine sacking a guy for putting a £5 bet on that wasn't just involving his own side.
It would be like getting the boot from your office job for stealing a bottle of tippex and some post-it notes.
If he had been gambling thousands on Rangers games and had actually tried to influence the game for his bet then fair enough, he'd be out. But he didnt.
He ticked a few boxes, entered £5 and clicked place bet without really thinking about it. He then went onto the field and smashed hit bet to peices by helping to win the game.
posted on 17/9/13
Just dont see what al the fuss is about myself
Ban him
How dare he bet against us
tis how it comes across to me
Bit petty, but fair enough, you've made your point, thinly, but made it
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posted on 17/9/13
WTF has Gazza beating up his wife got to do with Black !?
Gazza was wrong, Black was wrong ...or most people would think so. You, Super, live with different standards to me . Black bet against Rangers whilst receiving a wage from them is wrong ! i reckon Rangers now may be thinking they've read the feelings of the support wrongly, hence the media staged crap from Black yesterday.
posted on 17/9/13
We've been arguing and bitchin like Tim's recently, can't we all just relax and agree that black has Lovely hair?
posted on 17/9/13
yous are gettin alll hysterical about it yet are happy to laud gazza as a rangers legend, despite him doing something worse whilst he was a Rangers player
posted on 17/9/13
yous are gettin alll hysterical about it yet are happy to laud gazza as a rangers legend, despite him doing something worse whilst he was a Rangers player
Why are you rambling about Gascoigne's misdeamenours ? Two wrongs don't make a right !
posted on 17/9/13
LOVELY HAIR
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posted on 17/9/13
I'd just like to see a bit more substance to your point Zach other than "Black's playing well, Sandaza wisnae, hypocrisy"
Was two entirely different things, I dont think you can apply sacking players for various levels of misconduct in such a blanket manner
posted on 17/9/13
Two different regimes
I think if green had been there black would get sacked
posted on 17/9/13
FCKING LOVELY HAIR YA DOBBERS
posted on 17/9/13
Good point Laudrup, I never thought of that
posted on 17/9/13
That's a fair point Laudrup
posted on 17/9/13
That's a good point laudrup
posted on 17/9/13
At a time when our club is being dragged through the mud and everyone including McCoist says it needs cleansing, we had the chance to put down a moral marker and deal with Black as Symon,Struth,Wallace Souness and Smith would have. We haven't and it speaks volumes.
posted on 17/9/13
Interesting wee debate.
For me sandaza was harshly dealt with and we were wrong.
Black it still annoys me he bet against the club but I get the point that he scored the winner and perhaps didn't even know what box he ticked. Many people do put random coupons on apparently.
Have we put down a moral marker?
For all we know Black has a gambling addiction (common with many footballers apparently) perhaps why he was just putting on random coupons because he just had to have a bet on?
Would it be right to just throw him on the scrap heap in those circumstances. There has been internal disciplinary meetings apparently so we don't know the exact circumstances.
To sum up I think we got it right this time and wrong last time.
Ps he has lovely hair
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