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posted on 17/9/13

Can't add anything to this, you've said it all already

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posted on 17/9/13

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comment by HRH (U15236)

posted on 17/9/13

Herbert should keep his head down after the Clartenburg fiasco. Made himself look a right mug



"David Cameron, luckily, is not in charge of the Crown Prosecution Service or the Metropolitan Police, therefore these decisions are not his to make," he said


Neither are you mate. One of you is elected to speak for us all, and the other is head of an apartheid society which excludes white dudes.

posted on 17/9/13

Glad people are getting the point. Last time I said something similar I got battered for being a racist.

posted on 17/9/13

Utter moron of a man. Head of a racist organisation that attempt to prevent racism

posted on 17/9/13

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comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 18/9/13

Why is the society of black lawyers racist?

Is it any more racist than Jewish only schools or Jewish only football teams/leagues which are very common across north west London

This is a total non issue and how the fack this bollox still gets coverage is beyond me

posted on 18/9/13

It seems to be a case of double standards when any organisation that even thought of operating a policy of 'no black or Asian members' would be demonized in much the same way as certain golf clubs have for operating a men only membership policy. Surely organisations such as the AOBL and the Association of Black Police Officers are racially selective in their membership?

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 18/9/13

As I said above - what about Jewish only schools?

posted on 18/9/13

Jewish schools are different. If you want your kids to go to a Jewish school, convert to Judaism.

The point is this guy is harping on about legitimising racism whilst chairing a racially exclusionary organisation.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 18/9/13

how is a school for jewish only people or a school for chinese only people different to a company that hires black only people?

i dont understand and thats because it makes no sense whatsoever.

i know of accountancy firms who only hire jewish people, and i know of one that only hires indian people.... there is nothing wrong with this.

posted on 18/9/13

But there IS something wrong with it. It's racism.

I honestly don't know how it could be any clearer.

Again, would it be socially acceptable for me to set up an organisation purely for white people?

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 18/9/13

i personally wouldnt care......

as long as you dont stand for any kind of hate or have an unkind or irrational message then i dont see the problem.

comment by HRH (U15236)

posted on 18/9/13

Personally I think all faith schools are a form of segregation and should be banned. They just breed an insular culture and a distrust of others.

However, this is a major difference - you can choose your faith, so even in that case you could go to a Jewish school if you became Jewish.

You can't choose your colour though . . Any organisation based on race shouldn't be allowed. I understand black lawyers are smaller in number, but in this day and age I see no reason for black associations. In the case of 'black', they usually mean non-white too, which is particularly discriminatory towards white people alone.

If there was a Association of White Tower Hamlets Residents that wouldn't be right, though they are a minority. No different in this case

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 18/9/13

you are yet to tell me how an accountancy firm that hire only jewish people is different from a law firm who hires only black people....

or a school that only permits chinese people in....

please explain...

posted on 18/9/13

Again, would it be socially acceptable for me to set up an organisation purely for white people?
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This is a view that's always interested me.

Take Peter Herbert for example, head of the society for black lawyers right?

How far would you get in setting up a society for white lawyers?

What am I missing here?

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 18/9/13

HRH... would about chinese schools? you cant change to become chinese can you? unless you live there for a long time and get a passport of course..

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 18/9/13

How far would you get in setting up a society for white lawyers?

What am I missing here?

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what you are missing is the probably reality that lots of that kind of firm already probably exist here in england and certainly in america... wont hire you unless you are white and probably from a certain social class.... the thing is that they are not called "the society of white lawyers"

anyone who thinks that at least a couple of firms such as that doesnt exist are totally naiive.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 18/9/13

in south london there exists a Tamil only football league. tamil is someone who originated from Sri Lanka...

if you are not Tamil you cannot play in this league. Is this wrong? i personally have no problem with that at all..

comment by HRH (U15236)

posted on 18/9/13

comment by Respected Tottenham Boy Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 minute ago
i personally wouldnt care......

as long as you dont stand for any kind of hate or have an unkind or irrational message then i dont see the problem.

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That's basically apartheid. It's ok to do it so long as you don't broadcast an overtly racist message?

Most parents would send their kids to a same-colour school if they could, it's human nature to seek out people who are similar to yourselves, even if only superficially. It shouldn't be encouraged though unless you are keen on a fractured and divided country

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 18/9/13

its not apartheid at all. in apartheid black people had virtually no human rights, and were treated as a lower class citizen.

how on earth is that comparable to someone setting up a company that happens to only hire white people or only hire black people, or chinese people, or jewish people.... ?

posted on 18/9/13

Chronic. I recognise your point, and it' s completely fair. But it still doesn't alter the hypocrisy. I have no problem with the organisation itself, simply the attitude of its' Chair.

comment by HRH (U15236)

posted on 18/9/13

comment by Respected Tottenham Boy Chronic (U3423)
posted 4 minutes ago
HRH... would about chinese schools? you cant change to become chinese can you? unless you live there for a long time and get a passport of course..

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I don't think you got me - all segregation is wrong. Chinese is no better than Black in this regard.

Is such a school limited to Chinese pupils only though? Or is it that they teach in Chinese and anyone can go?

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted on 18/9/13

floppy

what i would say is that its a very interesting debate. for those of you that dont know, i am mixed race (black and white), so racial issues and tensions have been a sensitive issue for me growing up and occasionally still are to this day.

however, i personally have no problem with a black only society or a white only society.

i remember at uni there was the afro-caribbean society... cant be anything wrong with that can there? how is that different to society of black lawyers?

peter herbert is obviously a total tool and needs to shut up about spurs. he is a complete caaant. however the organisation is fine imo.

comment by HRH (U15236)

posted on 18/9/13

What possible reason is there for a firm to just employ white people though? Or Jewish? Or black?

There is no difference between them barring a skin colour/religion. As such the employer is implying that they are superior because of this.

That's discrimination, plain and simple

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