There's a lad at West Ham called Stewart - can't think of his surname but rumour has it that he'll be a top international in no time. I'd snap him up now - just put £20mil on the table - take it or leave it
Messi will be a year older, should knock a 0 off
Lax rules regarding work permits and third party ownerships are the reason why Porto, Benfica et al seem to be able to snap up so much South American talent for such small prices.
Dont Porto get a lot of their players where an agent still owns 50%+ of the player?
If PL clubs tried to buy them they would cost a lot more as we would have to buy out their share as well.
The agents place their players at these clubs to increase exposure to the european market before cashing in.
comment by DaStuDogg (U9291)
posted 23 seconds ago
Lax rules regarding work permits and third party ownerships are the reason why Porto, Benfica et al seem to be able to snap up so much South American talent for such small prices.
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Quintero would have got a WP to play in england, definitely, if we got one for Henriquez, we'd have got one for Quintero
comment by It's a Mexican Rave!!!! Januzaj's Left Foot (U6687)
posted 2 minutes ago
dunc you utter swine
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ps, this idea was NOT, i repeat NOT stolen from Mex
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git
i dont know what you mean mex
Porto are masters of raiding South America, bringing players to Europe, helping them improve and get used to European football (champs league football) and then sell them on at outrageous prices.
I know for a fact that there are numerous scouting networks for Premier League clubs ho are perpetually pulling their puddin's in frustration, simply because of the work permit scenario.
The thing is, these 'laws' are not likely to be relaxed like an amyl induced sphincter! Oh no, no no! They're going to tighten, like the clasp of a healthy, nubile 18 year old snatch. Immigration issues and EU working-regulations are intricate and often confusing in the UK. With paperwork and redtape a-plenty.
Gaining a work permit if you're from South America (for example) is a tricky prospect, unless you're a fully fledged international footballer. It's quite a sensitive issue and a strong-feelings kidney whichever way you slice it.
How do people feel about this..? Let's talk about it openly and not sweep it under a rug, wove of apathy and expensive Persian silk, eh, eh my firends!??
Dede - Cruzeiro
Ederson - Paranaense
William - Ponte Preta
Everton Ribeiro- Cruzeiro
Luan - Mineiro
Quintero as good as he is now and will certainly be in the future is best centrally and in an advanced position so what use would he have been to us when we have the likes of Kagawa and even Januzaj who I think will eventually settle into a more central position in the future, can't get game-time for us there now?
Unless we buy them and do what we do with Campbell and Wellington Silva Moist, and hope they get a work permit after playing abroad for a few seasons
Well I think work permit regulations are an utter farce as anyone going to the UK to be employed as a professional football player is clearly going to earn thousands of pounds a week and should simply be permitted to work in the country.
The difference in work permit regulations across the Europe is another massive failing in UEFA's FFP experiment.
"Quintero would have got a WP to play in england, definitely, if we got one for Henriquez, we'd have got one for Quintero"
Perhaps. I'm not really sure on what criteria a player must meet to attain a work permit. We missed out on a number of talented player due to work permit issues - Di Maria, Sebastien Perez, and Yaya Toure.
Quintero had already appeared at international level, so perhaps he would have got one, but that still leaves the third paryt issues.
As White Wall says, a lot of these third parties trade their players to somewhere like Portugal to dramatically increase their value, before selling them for a huge fee.
I doubt any English club could have got Quintero anywhere near as cheap as Porto did.
there's plenty of good young players to be had in europe aswell as SA, probably cost a little more but hey ho
Sergi Darder- Malaga
Ruben Pardo- Sociedad
Mohamed Salah- Basel
Kevin Volland- Hoffenheim
Ivan Rakitic- Sevilla
what confuses me is they wont allow footballers in to earn a living, but they'll let imigrants in and pay for them to stay... but thats probably a whole different article.
comment by DaStuDogg (U9291) posted 14 minutes ago
Lax rules regarding work permits and third party ownerships are the reason why Porto, Benfica et al seem to be able to snap up so much South American talent for such small prices.
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Bingo!
Moi Gomez- Villareal
Viktor Fischer- Ajax
Zakaria Bakkali- PSV
Vidal for, what, £12million? Was a bargain for Juventus. It was hardly a gamble, he had just been brilliant for Leverkusem and was out of contract, just seemed to slip under other club's radars.
Other people don't rate him but I reckon KPB has moved for some bargains in his career, first from Portsmouth to Milan and Schalke have got him for a good price now.
Rakitic went for a very small fee to Sevilla which also went under most club's radars.
gundogan is another, went for peanuts.
dortmund are another team that seem to be able to pick up players for next to nothing and when they sell them on, replace them for players who cost peanuts too.
when they beat real last season, other than Reus, their whole team cost less than liverpool paid for andy carrol!
Kagawa cost something riduculous, like £800'000. Literaly came in for that price from the Japanese league and started performing straight away.
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posted on 23/10/13
There's a lad at West Ham called Stewart - can't think of his surname but rumour has it that he'll be a top international in no time. I'd snap him up now - just put £20mil on the table - take it or leave it
posted on 23/10/13
Messi will be a year older, should knock a 0 off
posted on 23/10/13
Lax rules regarding work permits and third party ownerships are the reason why Porto, Benfica et al seem to be able to snap up so much South American talent for such small prices.
posted on 23/10/13
dunc you utter swine
posted on 23/10/13
Dont Porto get a lot of their players where an agent still owns 50%+ of the player?
If PL clubs tried to buy them they would cost a lot more as we would have to buy out their share as well.
The agents place their players at these clubs to increase exposure to the european market before cashing in.
posted on 23/10/13
comment by DaStuDogg (U9291)
posted 23 seconds ago
Lax rules regarding work permits and third party ownerships are the reason why Porto, Benfica et al seem to be able to snap up so much South American talent for such small prices.
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Quintero would have got a WP to play in england, definitely, if we got one for Henriquez, we'd have got one for Quintero
posted on 23/10/13
comment by It's a Mexican Rave!!!! Januzaj's Left Foot (U6687)
posted 2 minutes ago
dunc you utter swine
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posted on 23/10/13
ps, this idea was NOT, i repeat NOT stolen from Mex
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git
posted on 23/10/13
i dont know what you mean mex
posted on 23/10/13
Porto are masters of raiding South America, bringing players to Europe, helping them improve and get used to European football (champs league football) and then sell them on at outrageous prices.
I know for a fact that there are numerous scouting networks for Premier League clubs ho are perpetually pulling their puddin's in frustration, simply because of the work permit scenario.
The thing is, these 'laws' are not likely to be relaxed like an amyl induced sphincter! Oh no, no no! They're going to tighten, like the clasp of a healthy, nubile 18 year old snatch. Immigration issues and EU working-regulations are intricate and often confusing in the UK. With paperwork and redtape a-plenty.
Gaining a work permit if you're from South America (for example) is a tricky prospect, unless you're a fully fledged international footballer. It's quite a sensitive issue and a strong-feelings kidney whichever way you slice it.
How do people feel about this..? Let's talk about it openly and not sweep it under a rug, wove of apathy and expensive Persian silk, eh, eh my firends!??
posted on 23/10/13
Dede - Cruzeiro
Ederson - Paranaense
William - Ponte Preta
Everton Ribeiro- Cruzeiro
Luan - Mineiro
posted on 23/10/13
Quintero as good as he is now and will certainly be in the future is best centrally and in an advanced position so what use would he have been to us when we have the likes of Kagawa and even Januzaj who I think will eventually settle into a more central position in the future, can't get game-time for us there now?
posted on 23/10/13
Unless we buy them and do what we do with Campbell and Wellington Silva Moist, and hope they get a work permit after playing abroad for a few seasons
posted on 23/10/13
Well I think work permit regulations are an utter farce as anyone going to the UK to be employed as a professional football player is clearly going to earn thousands of pounds a week and should simply be permitted to work in the country.
The difference in work permit regulations across the Europe is another massive failing in UEFA's FFP experiment.
posted on 23/10/13
"Quintero would have got a WP to play in england, definitely, if we got one for Henriquez, we'd have got one for Quintero"
Perhaps. I'm not really sure on what criteria a player must meet to attain a work permit. We missed out on a number of talented player due to work permit issues - Di Maria, Sebastien Perez, and Yaya Toure.
Quintero had already appeared at international level, so perhaps he would have got one, but that still leaves the third paryt issues.
As White Wall says, a lot of these third parties trade their players to somewhere like Portugal to dramatically increase their value, before selling them for a huge fee.
I doubt any English club could have got Quintero anywhere near as cheap as Porto did.
posted on 23/10/13
there's plenty of good young players to be had in europe aswell as SA, probably cost a little more but hey ho
Sergi Darder- Malaga
Ruben Pardo- Sociedad
Mohamed Salah- Basel
Kevin Volland- Hoffenheim
Ivan Rakitic- Sevilla
posted on 23/10/13
Mateo Musacchio.
posted on 23/10/13
what confuses me is they wont allow footballers in to earn a living, but they'll let imigrants in and pay for them to stay... but thats probably a whole different article.
posted on 23/10/13
comment by DaStuDogg (U9291) posted 14 minutes ago
Lax rules regarding work permits and third party ownerships are the reason why Porto, Benfica et al seem to be able to snap up so much South American talent for such small prices.
==
Bingo!
posted on 23/10/13
Moi Gomez- Villareal
Viktor Fischer- Ajax
Zakaria Bakkali- PSV
posted on 23/10/13
Vidal for, what, £12million? Was a bargain for Juventus. It was hardly a gamble, he had just been brilliant for Leverkusem and was out of contract, just seemed to slip under other club's radars.
Other people don't rate him but I reckon KPB has moved for some bargains in his career, first from Portsmouth to Milan and Schalke have got him for a good price now.
Rakitic went for a very small fee to Sevilla which also went under most club's radars.
posted on 23/10/13
gundogan is another, went for peanuts.
posted on 23/10/13
Fede Cartabia - Valencia
posted on 23/10/13
dortmund are another team that seem to be able to pick up players for next to nothing and when they sell them on, replace them for players who cost peanuts too.
when they beat real last season, other than Reus, their whole team cost less than liverpool paid for andy carrol!
posted on 23/10/13
Kagawa cost something riduculous, like £800'000. Literaly came in for that price from the Japanese league and started performing straight away.
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