The Liverpool manager from the 80s. Cant remember the name

David Moyes

Jock Stein

shanks and paisley was it...ahead of wenger.

The Liverpool manager from the 80s. Cant remember the name----------------

You mean bob paisely!

It would be hard to award an accolade like that to a manger closing in on a decade without winning a single trophy surely.
If Arsenal win the league this season, you might have an argument for maybe him being in the top 4 or 5, if he doesn't, then no he isnt, and shouldnt.
By the way, you missed out a manager who won,
Football League First Division (6): 1975–76, 1976–77, 1978–79, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1982–83
League Cup (3): 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83
FA Charity Shield (6): 1974, 1976, 1977, 1979, 1980, 1982
European Cup (3): 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81
UEFA Cup (1): 1975–76
UEFA Super Cup (1): 1977, in around 9 years.

Clough did something special at Forrest he is num 2 for me then Wenger

Stuart Pearce

Paisley easily.

Stuart Pearce
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Good shout.
Anyone who makes Scott Parker England captain deserves some kind of award.

@jlou1978 (U15376)

I agree, Paisely in my opinion can rightly even challenge Fergie on his own.

Thing is you choose you managers on 2 things, longevity or massive success gained in a short period.

In the latter category is where Jose get his plaudits but none of his teams be it Inter,real,Chelsea or Porto can ever leave a lasting memory like say Sacchi's milan team or Peps Barcelona.

Agreed b10.
As I said earlier, if Arsenal win the league this season, Wenger will deserve all the credit in the world for sticking with the club, through thin times in regard to money being available, and producing a team capable of becoming champions when nobody, including myself I admit, gave them a chance in hell.

Jock Stein.

Jose shouldnt be mentioned in this article, he is a continental manager not tied to one country. His legacy will have to be viewed within a European context. I doubt he will staying in England again for more than four years to be honest, after us he will take yet another shot at Europe, perhaps with a German club, and then he will manage Portugal

Money manager

People who say Jose and Wenger are the types who think football started in 1992.

Take away the money to buy whoever he wants and Jose will be seen as an average manager.

I think you also have to take into account how money has pretty much dominated, and the team who usually spend the most, usually win the title, or at least challenge for it.
So maybe the parameters for choosing great managers might not be solely based on trophy hauls.
As someone said earlier, for Clough to achieve what he did with Forest, takes some beating.

Wenger will just about make my top 10 but is nowhere near 2nd. The article is either delusional or ignorant of British football history.

@Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)

fack of united fan

Paisley >

Take away the money to buy
whoever he wants and Jose will
be seen as an average manager.
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Yeah, that's why Porto and Inter who were heavily outspent by their top European rivals became European champions under him. Because he's soo average.

Take away the money to buy
whoever he wants and Jose will
be seen as an average manager.
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Yeah, that's why Porto and Inter who were heavily outspent by their top European rivals became European champions under him. Because he's soo average.

Here is ESPN's list for greatest managers

• No. 20: Fabio Capello
• No. 19: Udo Lattek
• No. 18: Pep Guardiola
• No. 17: Jock Stein
• No. 16: Bela Guttmann
• No. 15: Marcello Lippi
• No. 14: Ernst Happel
• No. 13: Ottmar Hitzfeld
• No. 12: Giovanni Trapattoni
• No. 11: Vicente del Bosque
• No. 10: Bill Shankly
• No. 9: Jose Mourinho
• No. 8: Valeri Lobanovsky
• No. 7: Sir Matt Busby
• No. 6: Arrigo Sacchi
• No. 5: Helenio Herrera
• No. 4: Bob Paisley
• No. 3: Brian Clough
• No. 2: Rinus Michels
• No. 1: Sir Alex Ferguson

fack of united fan
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intelligent, articulate response. I'm now convinced the article isn't delusional or ignorant.