I'm glad he is no longer at Derby. Not just because it was Derby, but I think that he didn't really enjoy his time there and he had to make a lot of comments to try and prove to himself that he didn't like Forest.

We all know Forest is the job he has always wanted and after we took Billy instead of him the first he showed how bitter he was with Derby.

However now he is left, he is a totally different character from that at Derby. he seems to be enjoying his time there and he actually smiled in an interview I last saw . I think it is good for him that he is at Sheff U as it is still one of the bigger clubs in league 1 and he is also applying his trade where it will probably have a good affect.

Hopefully he can put the mess that was Derby behind him now and actually enjoy the game and his love of Forest again

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His attitude towards forest is probably based on
1) How Brian's retirement was handled
2) His sour relationship with Billy Davies

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1) I don't buy that reason, he came back to Forest for a bit and most of the people from back then have long since left

2) Possibly a little, in terms of him wanting the job in the past and being bitter about stuff like budgets etc


A lot of hard working people (including my Dad) helped pay his wages so the comment about his goals particularly annoyed me and I consider to be incredibly disrespectful. I understand he may have been in a difficult position but I don't excuse that and he's still tarnished in my eyes

He got his wish that day and got not just one goal but two (maybe he'd have traded in his Liverpool goals for the second), funny that we got five though.

Can totally understand Rev's point of view though and we all know that Billy and NLN aren't exactly the best of friends!

it is like a smaller version of Clough and Revie except Billy seems to be more like BC and NLN has turned into Revie

"one of the bigger clubs in league 1"

Anyone else hear on Radio Nottingham yesterday that we're helping fund a cover for their pitch to help increase the chances of getting the game played Sunday? Effectively they asked for hand outs from us, who would have expected something like that from Yorkshire

Just because they are one of the bigger clubs dosn't mean they are not skint

Plus yeah, I saw it, was pretty funny!

I think some of it was trying to win over the locals in any way he could. Without that and his victories over us I really wonder how long he would have lasted there. It got to a point where he couldn't even talk about our club by name. He was happy burn his bridges to the degree he did, so screw him

There's always a huge amount of nonsense spewed by football people regarding whomever happens to be paying their wages at the time, and I'm sure Your Nige carefully chose his words to try to strike a balance between assuring the Derby fans and upsetting the Forest fans.

There's no loyalty in the game, hasn't been for years, and so whilst I don't believe he owed you anything, he can neither expect any in return. As always, you remain Forest fans and he is still not employed by Nottingham Forest and so isn't a consideration.

It's not like he moved to a club with which you have a great affinity either! It's like he's working his way down the anti-Forest list.

I don't think he will ever manage Forest after what has been said. He doesn't possess the right coaching badges for the Championship/Prem' anyway?

Wasn't he taking them last summer RFB?

Lets not forget he was snubbed by the club i think twice for the vacant managers job and that was the job he really wanted. Thank God he didnt get it.

666, sure there isnt a lot of loyalty these days at all but some players show respect by not celebrating goals against their former clubs and I appreciate that. I think Clough junior should have had more dignity about him than to behave as he has done with us. I dont think he will ever be welcome through the City Ground gates as far as most fans are concerned, not for the fact he managed Derby but for the total lack of respect he's shown the fans who had nothing to do with his Fathers departure or Nigel's subsequent snubbing by the club.

Some good comments. Interesting debate. I for one had my head in my hands when he got the Derby job and we got Billy. Felt like your wife had run off with you best mate who then constantly stuck the knife in. Luckily Billy has turned out superb.

"It's not like he moved to a club with which you have a great affinity either! It's like he's working his way down the anti-Forest list."

666 If he ever becomes Anderlecht boss then we'll know it's true!

I dont see the problem. He was working for Derby who are our biggest rivals and he was geeing up his players and supporters. If Billy said "i would trade promotion with Derby for a win against them today" you would be saying thats our manager and he loves Forest.

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But Beardy, Billy never had a family history with derby like the Clough's had with Forest and Billy has never dissed derby like Nigel did Forest.

I think Billy did once say that he'd wished he'd got Preston promoted rather than Derby. #pureclass.

Mani shhhhhhh

To be honest his track record as a manager is not that great. He took years to get Burton up (even then he left them in January to go to the Sheep - although they were well clear at the time.
His time at Derby was spent in midtable at best. Steve McLaren took over and even before the loanees came in he got Nigels players playing to their full potential.
I know Sunday is a one off but whatever the result he took over a strugging Blunts team and they have hardly improved in their league form.

I think he has shown that he is a decent manager. More of a long work in progress, developing young players, lower league players (NLN) etc. if you were a chairman lacking funds and ambition he'd be perfect for you (Derby). He twisted the knife which I can't get my head round. Can remember my first trip to wembley in 89 against Luton when his two goals and MOTM display won us the league cup. He was our top scorer about 5 years on the spin when I was a kid. Second top scorer of all time. Still feel betrayed by him. Can remember him suggesting that Pearce who was U21 manager at the time would recommend players to him when he was at Derby because they were close. He knew how forest fans would feel about that but them discreet digs a lot of the time were designed to get to us. Poor Nigel, poor.

As far as I remember the only thing he said that was negative towards Forest was the "trade all my goals" quote which surely nobody took seriously? On another occasion he used the phrase "that lot down the road" which again is hardly worthy of the degree of insult that some Forest fans are trying to claim was intended. At the very worst it was just a bit tongue in cheek and it seems churlish in the extreme to me to use this as a stick to continually beat him with. He was a great player for Forest after all. I think it is more to do with the fact that many Forest fans could not possibly believe that he would take a job at Derby having been a Forest player, but that's just naive.

I have no particular axe to grind now that he has left Derby, so this is just an opinion. He has had some negative things to say about the way he was sacked by Derby, which I understand although I think he was also lucky in many ways to have kept his job for so long. Often at Derby I felt he was a bit too honest when he should have kept quiet, about players particularly, but that's the way he is. I never felt that he intended any disrespect to Forest. I think he's a good lad at heart.

Good debate but...

.....Woody still pedalling the unsubstantiated line:-

"Lets not forget he was snubbed by the club i think twice for the vacant managers job and that was the job he really wanted. Thank God he didnt get it."

That's just silly Woody and you know it. You cannot just keep repeating something to make it true.

On Clough's real comments, look, it's football and as Vidal says, there is no loyalty. Comments made by Nigel were all too often (to me anyway) tongue in cheek and all this sanctimonious clap-trap about how dreadful his utterings were are just hysterical over-reaction.

There was a few things Vidal that came across in sound bits, a couple where he had no reason to bring them up. I think one of them was inference that we hadn't made an effort to get a game on when it was snowing and icy. We wasn't even playing each other at the time so there was no need.

There is a possibility that Sheffield United could be at the same level as Burton Albion next season, that would be a little amusing

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