i also think proving yourself either on the international stage or in the CL is a must to be in the world class bracket
Mex - last year would Falcao have been on that list?
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Mex - last year would Falcao have been on that list?
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hmmm, now he's a strange one for me, he's a brilliant goalscorer, but i do feel he's slightly over-rated, not a patch on Ibrahimovic, Suarez or Aguero for me
As was said earlier, Sturridge needs to do it for at least another season and against better opposition to be classed as world class in my opinion.
Falcao is world class, there's no doubt of that.
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comment by Dalglish's Double Fist Pump (U6580)
posted 36 seconds ago
Mex - last year would Falcao have been on that list?
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hmmm, now he's a strange one for me, he's a brilliant goalscorer, but i do feel he's slightly over-rated, not a patch on Ibrahimovic, Suarez or Aguero for me
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Fair enough
On form last year - you could have argued it was world class - but he has definitely dipped, perhaps the fact that he is at Monaco and Injured means we have not seen him get going.
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The OP is a WUM.
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Thanks
I think all of these have been world class players at one time or another in the last 20 years:
Owen
Scholes
Beckham
Gerrard
Lampard
Cole
Terry
Ferdinand
Rooney
Shearer
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Owen
Scholes
Beckham
Gerrard
Lampard
Cole
Terry
Ferdinand
Rooney
Shearer
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Has any of them been in the top 3 of the worlds best for longer than 2 seasons, only A Cole for me.
Gerrard has been world class for years, he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
- Sturridge
- Cahill
- Wilshere
- Baines
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Sorry, none of them are world class.
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posted 22 seconds ago
Gerrard has been world class for years, he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
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agreed, Scholes was world class for a decade aswell, just a shame no england manager could see that those 2 should have been the CM partnership
comment by Mex. (U6687)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Dalglish's Double Fist Pump (U6580)
posted 22 seconds ago
Gerrard has been world class for years, he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
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agreed, Scholes was world class for a decade aswell, just a shame no england manager could see that those 2 should have been the CM partnership
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Tell me about it, one thing we are really truly without is world class british managers!
All England need is a balanced team, players that compliment each other.
Square pegs in round holes is how I see the Hodgson tenure.
I'm going to world cup too, good job I wont be watching England
comment by Dalglish's Double Fist Pump (U6580)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Mex. (U6687)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Dalglish's Double Fist Pump (U6580)
posted 22 seconds ago
Gerrard has been world class for years, he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
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agreed, Scholes was world class for a decade aswell, just a shame no england manager could see that those 2 should have been the CM partnership
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Tell me about it, one thing we are really truly without is world class british managers!
All England need is a balanced team, players that compliment each other.
Square pegs in round holes is how I see the Hodgson tenure.
I'm going to world cup too, good job I wont be watching England
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awesome whereabouts are you staying?
he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
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how much pfa player of the years has Gerrard won?
Zidane
Messy
Ronaldo
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Pele
Maradona
These are the players i think of when the words world class is mentioned.
Sorry know place for Sturridge or Baines there. just my opinion
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
Owen
Scholes
Beckham
Gerrard
Lampard
Cole
Terry
Ferdinand
Rooney
Shearer
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Has any of them been in the top 3 of the worlds best for longer than 2 seasons, only A Cole for me.
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Yes is the answer to that. But I don't understand why the cut off has to be top 3? Why not top 4, or top 5?
What you can say about those players is that they've been consistently good for at least 2 years whether in club and international level or club and European level, or all 3.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 11 seconds ago
he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
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how much pfa player of the years has Gerrard won?
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One I think, doesn't make my point any less valid
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
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how much pfa player of the years has Gerrard won?
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that means nothing, absolutely nothing, Scholes never won it either, yet Scott Parker did
http://i4.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article1318512.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Paul%20McGrath-1318512.jpg
This guy did though, World Class ?
Paul McGrath was brilliant in his day
how much pfa player of the years has Gerrard won?
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that means nothing, absolutely nothing, Scholes never won it either, yet Scott Parker did
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I'm just saying that if he only won pfa player of the year once, and has never been in the top 3-5 for world player of the year, how can he be called world class. Gerrard is a top top player but, when he was at his peak, we had players like Zidane, Ronaldiniho, Ronaldo etc around and he wasn't better than them. i think because we all watch the PL all the time,we think these players are the best on the planet, our league isn't the best and our players haven't been the best either.
I've never been convinced by Gerrard. His best games for Liverpool were always with a world-class midfielder holding his hand; he was always made to look better by the tactical intelligence of other players. As soon as he became the biggest name in Liverpool's midfield, his limitations started to shine through.
Scholes? There's definitely an argument to be made for him. It's a shame Arsenal fans mostly remember him as a bit of a thug, because in his prime he was probably United's best source of spontaneous creativity.
Beckham is an obvious choice. Technically superb, gave structure to his teams' attacks, and was so proficient he played to an exceptional level until the age of 37.
Campbell - for all his gum-flapping lately, people forget just how good a defender he was. Wouldn't have looked out of place in Italy.
Lampard would have been eaten alive in any other European league.
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posted on 14/3/14
i also think proving yourself either on the international stage or in the CL is a must to be in the world class bracket
posted on 14/3/14
Mex - last year would Falcao have been on that list?
posted on 14/3/14
comment by Dalglish's Double Fist Pump (U6580)
posted 36 seconds ago
Mex - last year would Falcao have been on that list?
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hmmm, now he's a strange one for me, he's a brilliant goalscorer, but i do feel he's slightly over-rated, not a patch on Ibrahimovic, Suarez or Aguero for me
posted on 14/3/14
The OP is a WUM.
posted on 14/3/14
As was said earlier, Sturridge needs to do it for at least another season and against better opposition to be classed as world class in my opinion.
posted on 14/3/14
Falcao is world class, there's no doubt of that.
posted on 14/3/14
comment by Mex. (U6687)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Dalglish's Double Fist Pump (U6580)
posted 36 seconds ago
Mex - last year would Falcao have been on that list?
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hmmm, now he's a strange one for me, he's a brilliant goalscorer, but i do feel he's slightly over-rated, not a patch on Ibrahimovic, Suarez or Aguero for me
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Fair enough
On form last year - you could have argued it was world class - but he has definitely dipped, perhaps the fact that he is at Monaco and Injured means we have not seen him get going.
posted on 14/3/14
comment by APantsArsenalFan - We don't sign crocks, we *make* crocks. (U11422)
posted 8 minutes ago
The OP is a WUM.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks
posted on 14/3/14
I think all of these have been world class players at one time or another in the last 20 years:
Owen
Scholes
Beckham
Gerrard
Lampard
Cole
Terry
Ferdinand
Rooney
Shearer
posted on 14/3/14
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posted on 14/3/14
Owen
Scholes
Beckham
Gerrard
Lampard
Cole
Terry
Ferdinand
Rooney
Shearer
------------------------------------------
Has any of them been in the top 3 of the worlds best for longer than 2 seasons, only A Cole for me.
posted on 14/3/14
Gerrard has been world class for years, he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
posted on 14/3/14
- Sturridge
- Cahill
- Wilshere
- Baines
*************************
Sorry, none of them are world class.
posted on 14/3/14
comment by Dalglish's Double Fist Pump (U6580)
posted 22 seconds ago
Gerrard has been world class for years, he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
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agreed, Scholes was world class for a decade aswell, just a shame no england manager could see that those 2 should have been the CM partnership
posted on 14/3/14
comment by Mex. (U6687)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Dalglish's Double Fist Pump (U6580)
posted 22 seconds ago
Gerrard has been world class for years, he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
agreed, Scholes was world class for a decade aswell, just a shame no england manager could see that those 2 should have been the CM partnership
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell me about it, one thing we are really truly without is world class british managers!
All England need is a balanced team, players that compliment each other.
Square pegs in round holes is how I see the Hodgson tenure.
I'm going to world cup too, good job I wont be watching England
posted on 14/3/14
comment by Dalglish's Double Fist Pump (U6580)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Mex. (U6687)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Dalglish's Double Fist Pump (U6580)
posted 22 seconds ago
Gerrard has been world class for years, he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
agreed, Scholes was world class for a decade aswell, just a shame no england manager could see that those 2 should have been the CM partnership
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Tell me about it, one thing we are really truly without is world class british managers!
All England need is a balanced team, players that compliment each other.
Square pegs in round holes is how I see the Hodgson tenure.
I'm going to world cup too, good job I wont be watching England
----------------------------------------------------------------------
awesome whereabouts are you staying?
posted on 14/3/14
he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
how much pfa player of the years has Gerrard won?
posted on 14/3/14
Zidane
Messy
Ronaldo
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Pele
Maradona
These are the players i think of when the words world class is mentioned.
Sorry know place for Sturridge or Baines there. just my opinion
posted on 14/3/14
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
Owen
Scholes
Beckham
Gerrard
Lampard
Cole
Terry
Ferdinand
Rooney
Shearer
------------------------------------------
Has any of them been in the top 3 of the worlds best for longer than 2 seasons, only A Cole for me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes is the answer to that. But I don't understand why the cut off has to be top 3? Why not top 4, or top 5?
What you can say about those players is that they've been consistently good for at least 2 years whether in club and international level or club and European level, or all 3.
posted on 14/3/14
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 11 seconds ago
he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
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how much pfa player of the years has Gerrard won?
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One I think, doesn't make my point any less valid
posted on 14/3/14
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
he single handedly carried a club for the best part of a decade - the amount of last minute winners and game changing moments is astonishing.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
how much pfa player of the years has Gerrard won?
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that means nothing, absolutely nothing, Scholes never won it either, yet Scott Parker did
posted on 14/3/14
http://i4.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article1318512.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Paul%20McGrath-1318512.jpg
This guy did though, World Class ?
posted on 14/3/14
Paul McGrath was brilliant in his day
posted on 14/3/14
how much pfa player of the years has Gerrard won?
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that means nothing, absolutely nothing, Scholes never won it either, yet Scott Parker did
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I'm just saying that if he only won pfa player of the year once, and has never been in the top 3-5 for world player of the year, how can he be called world class. Gerrard is a top top player but, when he was at his peak, we had players like Zidane, Ronaldiniho, Ronaldo etc around and he wasn't better than them. i think because we all watch the PL all the time,we think these players are the best on the planet, our league isn't the best and our players haven't been the best either.
posted on 14/3/14
I've never been convinced by Gerrard. His best games for Liverpool were always with a world-class midfielder holding his hand; he was always made to look better by the tactical intelligence of other players. As soon as he became the biggest name in Liverpool's midfield, his limitations started to shine through.
Scholes? There's definitely an argument to be made for him. It's a shame Arsenal fans mostly remember him as a bit of a thug, because in his prime he was probably United's best source of spontaneous creativity.
Beckham is an obvious choice. Technically superb, gave structure to his teams' attacks, and was so proficient he played to an exceptional level until the age of 37.
Campbell - for all his gum-flapping lately, people forget just how good a defender he was. Wouldn't have looked out of place in Italy.
Lampard would have been eaten alive in any other European league.
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