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comment by The libertine (U2188)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
RKR.
you can exhale:
the cash tours? the cheating? the racism?
lets not get drawn into this. he is a brilliant defender and captain, but IMO he is not world class. you think differently.
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He has his flaws (although 2 off the things you said are alleged) , but its funny how the good stuff he does like those two things are completely ignored.
Of the original OP list, Baines is the nearest to world class, by virtue of being one of the top players in that position. Ability-wise, I wouldn't say he was world class though.
Rooney is the only player anywhere near world class while Gerrard and Ashley Cole where was a few years ago.
Surely to be premiership class you have to be a regular in a premiership team
In turn to be international class you have to be a regular in an international team.
From this IMO to be world class you would have to regularly be a player who would get into a world team if there was such a thing.
That IMO discounts most names that are hailed as world class including the likes of Rooney and Gerard.
If you could pick a team from all the players in the world would you have Rooney in it? I know I would not.
Rooney is not world class and never has been.
Gareth Bale is the only world class British born player we have right now.
Alot of the others can be classed as very good players like Ramsey, Wilshere, Rooney and Oxlade Chamberlain. Although the young three in that four have the potential to become World Class players along with Luke Shaw and Ross Barkley .
comment by NacDan's Billy Big Jobs (U6468)
posted 17 hours, 4 minutes ago
Zidane
Messy
Ronaldo
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Pele
Maradona
These are the players i think of when the words world class is mentioned.
Sorry know place for Sturridge or Baines there. just my opinion
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Good list.... but no Cruyff no Ibrahimovic....to name two
World class players are ones who actually stand out & people will pay good money to watch them alone, both within an ordinary side (Bale at $puds) - (Ronaldo for Purtugal) (Ibra for Sweden) or a top class side Ronaldo at Real, Messi at Barca
Ruud Gullit was immense with Van Basten & Riikjard at AC in the late 90's
Romario utterly owned the 94 world cup
Older fans will tell you that the Late Tom Finney & Stanley Matthews were as good as any of these in Their time, on poor pitches with none of the technology of today
Not to mention the likes of Puskas Eusebio Pele etc
On to Brits....small list really
Moore Charlton Best Banks...(Dare I say Gascoigne) that kind of list
I see some posters are trying to shoehorn Sturridge into the 'world class' bracket.
On what grounds! That he has proven himself at the top level? CL and Internationals? Has multiple medals? Drags team through on his own peerless performances?
Currently, there are no world class British players playing in the prem, and only Bale in total.
At their very peak, theses are a recent few
Giggs
Scholes
Cole
Gerrard
Lampard
John Terry has been a world class defender imo. Probably one of the most consistent performers over the last decade.
There is loads of potential in the current side, despite what people say about England's future as a national team. Just need the right guidance and I reckon we could have a few World Class players in the wide/attacking positions.
John Terry has been a world class defender imo
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Terry has been about as near to world class as I have
Until terry wins a CL then he will never be....
No it is true Terry is or was world class. Even this season he's been one of the best defenders in the league. That's before you talk about all the silverware he's helped his team achieve.
Still a caant though.
No it is true Terry is or was world class.
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Sorry I would disagree. He is a winner yes and he has been fantastic for chelsea but that does not put him in the two top defenders in the world in my eyes which again IMO he would need to be to be world class.
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posted on 14/3/14
comment by The libertine (U2188)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
RKR.
you can exhale:
the cash tours? the cheating? the racism?
lets not get drawn into this. he is a brilliant defender and captain, but IMO he is not world class. you think differently.
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He has his flaws (although 2 off the things you said are alleged) , but its funny how the good stuff he does like those two things are completely ignored.
posted on 14/3/14
Of the original OP list, Baines is the nearest to world class, by virtue of being one of the top players in that position. Ability-wise, I wouldn't say he was world class though.
posted on 14/3/14
Rooney is the only player anywhere near world class while Gerrard and Ashley Cole where was a few years ago.
posted on 15/3/14
Surely to be premiership class you have to be a regular in a premiership team
In turn to be international class you have to be a regular in an international team.
From this IMO to be world class you would have to regularly be a player who would get into a world team if there was such a thing.
That IMO discounts most names that are hailed as world class including the likes of Rooney and Gerard.
If you could pick a team from all the players in the world would you have Rooney in it? I know I would not.
posted on 15/3/14
Rooney is not world class and never has been.
posted on 15/3/14
Gareth Bale is the only world class British born player we have right now.
Alot of the others can be classed as very good players like Ramsey, Wilshere, Rooney and Oxlade Chamberlain. Although the young three in that four have the potential to become World Class players along with Luke Shaw and Ross Barkley .
posted on 15/3/14
comment by NacDan's Billy Big Jobs (U6468)
posted 17 hours, 4 minutes ago
Zidane
Messy
Ronaldo
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Pele
Maradona
These are the players i think of when the words world class is mentioned.
Sorry know place for Sturridge or Baines there. just my opinion
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Good list.... but no Cruyff no Ibrahimovic....to name two
World class players are ones who actually stand out & people will pay good money to watch them alone, both within an ordinary side (Bale at $puds) - (Ronaldo for Purtugal) (Ibra for Sweden) or a top class side Ronaldo at Real, Messi at Barca
Ruud Gullit was immense with Van Basten & Riikjard at AC in the late 90's
Romario utterly owned the 94 world cup
Older fans will tell you that the Late Tom Finney & Stanley Matthews were as good as any of these in Their time, on poor pitches with none of the technology of today
Not to mention the likes of Puskas Eusebio Pele etc
On to Brits....small list really
Moore Charlton Best Banks...(Dare I say Gascoigne) that kind of list
posted on 15/3/14
I see some posters are trying to shoehorn Sturridge into the 'world class' bracket.
On what grounds! That he has proven himself at the top level? CL and Internationals? Has multiple medals? Drags team through on his own peerless performances?
posted on 15/3/14
Currently, there are no world class British players playing in the prem, and only Bale in total.
At their very peak, theses are a recent few
Giggs
Scholes
Cole
Gerrard
Lampard
posted on 15/3/14
John Terry has been a world class defender imo. Probably one of the most consistent performers over the last decade.
There is loads of potential in the current side, despite what people say about England's future as a national team. Just need the right guidance and I reckon we could have a few World Class players in the wide/attacking positions.
posted on 16/3/14
John Terry has been a world class defender imo
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Terry has been about as near to world class as I have
posted on 16/3/14
Until terry wins a CL then he will never be....
posted on 16/3/14
No it is true Terry is or was world class. Even this season he's been one of the best defenders in the league. That's before you talk about all the silverware he's helped his team achieve.
Still a caant though.
posted on 16/3/14
No it is true Terry is or was world class.
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Sorry I would disagree. He is a winner yes and he has been fantastic for chelsea but that does not put him in the two top defenders in the world in my eyes which again IMO he would need to be to be world class.
posted on 16/3/14
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