Think Mourinho first trotted out this one, and funnily enough, pretty much all their defeats have come when they haven't played in Europe during the week.
Not being in CL will partly affect a club's ability to sign players, of course - although you can still some sign players of a high calibre if you offer them enough money - and so that affects your ability to build a squad.
However, not being in the CL (as well as going out of the domestic cups early) allows the side more time to prepare, and should mean that the team performs better than if that same squad was in the CL as well. Two sides to the coin.
What can't be denied, though, is that Rodgers has done a smashing job (reminiscent of SAF, the way he's taken arguably the 4th/5th best squad in the league to be favourites to win it), and that their extra freshness is just one small factor.
Of course it has helped their league form not being in Europe. That is undeniable.
But of course it is not the only factor.
As for attracting players, Liverpool is a massive name in world football. That has its draws. And they pay well. You cannot really compare Liverpool and Southampton, or even Newcastle.
Of course some non RedScouse are going to try and belittle Liverpool, that is the nature of football fans.
Should also be mentioned that although they were very lucky with decisions today, they were mugged off at the Etihad.
Don't really have anything against most Scousers. There are a few annoying ones on here, but of course that's true of any team. Ones I know in real life are, bar one plastic/deluded chap, good guys who have taken their demise with good humour. For whatever reason, though, I still think I'd rather Man City win it. Probably because I don't know any City fans so wouldn't have to put up with any gloating!
We'll done on the honesty.
It has obviously helped a little this year, but next year we will have the resources to boost the squad to cope.
The most utterly pathetic and bitter-filled justification from rivals for their own side's incompetence. At the season's onset do you think there was a person among them who said "I think Liverpool have a advantage in the title race based on them having no European football?" Of course there wasn't. None of these bile-spewing bitters even gave Liverpool much hope of top four football despite this "advantage."
The fact remains they're achieving this with a lot of players these fans either laughed at or are still laughing at. I saw an Arsenal fan on here claim Henderson is so bad he'd struggle to get into our team with the injuries and yet there he is, an almost ever-present, playing for the side currently leading the way in the table and putting up a proper title challenge. Joe Flanagan, Glen Johson, Simon Mignolet etc. All players none of the "established top four" would want anywhere near their sides and yet there they are, playing regularly for a side blazing a trail through the league since the new year.
The lack of European football may well be a help to their challenge, but let's not hide behind the fact that what they're doing, given the quality they're having to do it with, is something that deserves every bit of credit they're currently receiving. It'll be a marvellous achievement to complete the job with a side and squad many observers were convinced - and still are convinced - is markedly weaker than those around them. Heck, even if they don't take the title, this challenge is achievement enough to lavish them and Rodgers with deserved credit.
If we were in CL we could have potentially signed William and Salah both went to Chelsea plus we tried and faild to sign Diego Costa I could argue that if we were in CL and got these 3 players we could in fact be even better a position than we are now...
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comment by lucas leiva really is that good! (U9282)
posted 48 seconds ago
We'll done on the honesty.
It has obviously helped a little this year, but next year we will have the resources to boost the squad to cope.
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The main problem is
a.) how well will it be spent - transfers seem to be a weakness of Rodgers -sometimes - and
b.) how well the signings gel. You'll need 4/5 at least I imagine, even if the likes of Borini and Assaidi are kept on (although I don't think either are good enough, particularly the latter) and you don't want them to do a Spurs.
I feel Rodgers is going to go for Kroos would fit perfectly into our team and add quality
Not playing high intense games on a Tues/Wed against the best in Europe has helped there is no doubting that.
However, you have to applaud pool. They have really turned up for the big games unlike our bottlers
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comment by Coutinho Magic (U4199)
posted 2 minutes ago
If we were in CL we could have potentially signed William and Salah both went to Chelsea plus we tried and faild to sign Diego Costa I could argue that if we were in CL and got these 3 players we could in fact be even better a position than we are now...
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Not sure about Willian and Salah. Suppose they would give you more depth but neither would improve your starting 11 imo. I was also debating with my mate about Costa, because how would you have fitted him in as well as Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho and Sterling. Again, gives you more depth and you could have rotated, but who knows how it would have affected the form and development of those players, particularly the latter two.
comment by Coutinho Magic (U4199)
posted 1 minute ago
I feel Rodgers is going to go for Kroos would fit perfectly into our team and add quality
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I'd be massively surprised if he doesn't sign a new deal. You're still more likely to get him than United, but I can't really see him leaving. Would definitely be a good replacement for Gerrard, though, and an upgrade on Henderson while Gerrard's still around.
I agree but the argument is our squad size and depth wouldn't cope with injuries ect however if we signed all three I feel we would have coped remarkably
Penguin, take a bow bud
Possibly the finest article posted by an Arsenal fan this season
No matter where we Finnish surely if we go in for a top player and they have seen they way we play and the development of the team Liverpool must be a very attractive proposition for players of the highest level.?
Next season we will see the real Liverpool.
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It is not only the physical effects of playing in Europe which people highlight, it is the mental effects and this applies to players regardless of your squad depth. Even with relegation teams whose squad cannot support a Cup run we see them struggle in the league as a result, it's the same for clubs at the top in Europe. It is not just as simplistic as saying six extra games a season, how can that make you so tired? It is the fact that mentally it can be tiring concentrating on beating Champions League opponents before swiftly preparing for a crucial league game too.
Concentrating solely on the league has been beneficial for Liverpool; it is not the reason they are where they are though as that's thoroughly deserved.
Arsenal have undoubtedly collapsed, but injuries have decimated what is a team that is two or three players short of challenging for the Champions League to a team that is no better than 3rd-5th in the league table. Of course, you cannot just attribute that to bad luck as there are things you can do about it such as strengthen your squad when you can see you have injuries.
Arsenal fans who feel this way about 'Pool's challenge need to ask themselves this; if they truly believe that not being in Europe is such a huge advantage in the league (for us, it's never more than 8 extra games), why are we so desperate as fans to be in the CL? A competition we never even try and win? They'll claim it helps us attract better players to better put forth challenges, but if Liverpool can win the league with players attracted without CL football, maybe not qualifying for a competition the club has no interest in winning would give us an advantage we could actually look to exploit, because any advantage CL money gives us, we haven't really been making anywhere near enough of.
Liverpool would have mkhityran and Willian if they were in Europe, no doubt many more, they would still have won the league.
Liverpool not playing international games surely helped them. It keep their players fresh and injury free. Back in December when we were top of the table I said that we Gooners were in the title race. Only injury could prevent us to compete. I was right. It's not an excuse. Its the truth but it's only one reason for our failure.
Liverpool deserve to be top. Best brand of football at the moment with the best goal scoring strike force.
Wenger really need to learn something about the tactical approach and what it could help us if we pay more attention to our tactical approach and invest into depths of the squad which I am sure Wenger will do.
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fair play
posted on 13/4/14
Think Mourinho first trotted out this one, and funnily enough, pretty much all their defeats have come when they haven't played in Europe during the week.
posted on 13/4/14
Not being in CL will partly affect a club's ability to sign players, of course - although you can still some sign players of a high calibre if you offer them enough money - and so that affects your ability to build a squad.
However, not being in the CL (as well as going out of the domestic cups early) allows the side more time to prepare, and should mean that the team performs better than if that same squad was in the CL as well. Two sides to the coin.
What can't be denied, though, is that Rodgers has done a smashing job (reminiscent of SAF, the way he's taken arguably the 4th/5th best squad in the league to be favourites to win it), and that their extra freshness is just one small factor.
posted on 13/4/14
Of course it has helped their league form not being in Europe. That is undeniable.
But of course it is not the only factor.
As for attracting players, Liverpool is a massive name in world football. That has its draws. And they pay well. You cannot really compare Liverpool and Southampton, or even Newcastle.
Of course some non RedScouse are going to try and belittle Liverpool, that is the nature of football fans.
posted on 13/4/14
Should also be mentioned that although they were very lucky with decisions today, they were mugged off at the Etihad.
Don't really have anything against most Scousers. There are a few annoying ones on here, but of course that's true of any team. Ones I know in real life are, bar one plastic/deluded chap, good guys who have taken their demise with good humour. For whatever reason, though, I still think I'd rather Man City win it. Probably because I don't know any City fans so wouldn't have to put up with any gloating!
posted on 13/4/14
We'll done on the honesty.
It has obviously helped a little this year, but next year we will have the resources to boost the squad to cope.
posted on 13/4/14
The most utterly pathetic and bitter-filled justification from rivals for their own side's incompetence. At the season's onset do you think there was a person among them who said "I think Liverpool have a advantage in the title race based on them having no European football?" Of course there wasn't. None of these bile-spewing bitters even gave Liverpool much hope of top four football despite this "advantage."
The fact remains they're achieving this with a lot of players these fans either laughed at or are still laughing at. I saw an Arsenal fan on here claim Henderson is so bad he'd struggle to get into our team with the injuries and yet there he is, an almost ever-present, playing for the side currently leading the way in the table and putting up a proper title challenge. Joe Flanagan, Glen Johson, Simon Mignolet etc. All players none of the "established top four" would want anywhere near their sides and yet there they are, playing regularly for a side blazing a trail through the league since the new year.
The lack of European football may well be a help to their challenge, but let's not hide behind the fact that what they're doing, given the quality they're having to do it with, is something that deserves every bit of credit they're currently receiving. It'll be a marvellous achievement to complete the job with a side and squad many observers were convinced - and still are convinced - is markedly weaker than those around them. Heck, even if they don't take the title, this challenge is achievement enough to lavish them and Rodgers with deserved credit.
posted on 13/4/14
If we were in CL we could have potentially signed William and Salah both went to Chelsea plus we tried and faild to sign Diego Costa I could argue that if we were in CL and got these 3 players we could in fact be even better a position than we are now...
posted on 13/4/14
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posted on 13/4/14
comment by lucas leiva really is that good! (U9282)
posted 48 seconds ago
We'll done on the honesty.
It has obviously helped a little this year, but next year we will have the resources to boost the squad to cope.
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The main problem is
a.) how well will it be spent - transfers seem to be a weakness of Rodgers -sometimes - and
b.) how well the signings gel. You'll need 4/5 at least I imagine, even if the likes of Borini and Assaidi are kept on (although I don't think either are good enough, particularly the latter) and you don't want them to do a Spurs.
posted on 13/4/14
I feel Rodgers is going to go for Kroos would fit perfectly into our team and add quality
posted on 13/4/14
Not playing high intense games on a Tues/Wed against the best in Europe has helped there is no doubting that.
However, you have to applaud pool. They have really turned up for the big games unlike our bottlers
posted on 13/4/14
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posted on 13/4/14
comment by Coutinho Magic (U4199)
posted 2 minutes ago
If we were in CL we could have potentially signed William and Salah both went to Chelsea plus we tried and faild to sign Diego Costa I could argue that if we were in CL and got these 3 players we could in fact be even better a position than we are now...
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Not sure about Willian and Salah. Suppose they would give you more depth but neither would improve your starting 11 imo. I was also debating with my mate about Costa, because how would you have fitted him in as well as Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho and Sterling. Again, gives you more depth and you could have rotated, but who knows how it would have affected the form and development of those players, particularly the latter two.
posted on 13/4/14
comment by Coutinho Magic (U4199)
posted 1 minute ago
I feel Rodgers is going to go for Kroos would fit perfectly into our team and add quality
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I'd be massively surprised if he doesn't sign a new deal. You're still more likely to get him than United, but I can't really see him leaving. Would definitely be a good replacement for Gerrard, though, and an upgrade on Henderson while Gerrard's still around.
posted on 13/4/14
I agree but the argument is our squad size and depth wouldn't cope with injuries ect however if we signed all three I feel we would have coped remarkably
posted on 13/4/14
Penguin, take a bow bud
Possibly the finest article posted by an Arsenal fan this season
posted on 13/4/14
No matter where we Finnish surely if we go in for a top player and they have seen they way we play and the development of the team Liverpool must be a very attractive proposition for players of the highest level.?
posted on 13/4/14
Next season we will see the real Liverpool.
posted on 13/4/14
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posted on 13/4/14
It is not only the physical effects of playing in Europe which people highlight, it is the mental effects and this applies to players regardless of your squad depth. Even with relegation teams whose squad cannot support a Cup run we see them struggle in the league as a result, it's the same for clubs at the top in Europe. It is not just as simplistic as saying six extra games a season, how can that make you so tired? It is the fact that mentally it can be tiring concentrating on beating Champions League opponents before swiftly preparing for a crucial league game too.
Concentrating solely on the league has been beneficial for Liverpool; it is not the reason they are where they are though as that's thoroughly deserved.
Arsenal have undoubtedly collapsed, but injuries have decimated what is a team that is two or three players short of challenging for the Champions League to a team that is no better than 3rd-5th in the league table. Of course, you cannot just attribute that to bad luck as there are things you can do about it such as strengthen your squad when you can see you have injuries.
posted on 13/4/14
Arsenal fans who feel this way about 'Pool's challenge need to ask themselves this; if they truly believe that not being in Europe is such a huge advantage in the league (for us, it's never more than 8 extra games), why are we so desperate as fans to be in the CL? A competition we never even try and win? They'll claim it helps us attract better players to better put forth challenges, but if Liverpool can win the league with players attracted without CL football, maybe not qualifying for a competition the club has no interest in winning would give us an advantage we could actually look to exploit, because any advantage CL money gives us, we haven't really been making anywhere near enough of.
posted on 13/4/14
Liverpool would have mkhityran and Willian if they were in Europe, no doubt many more, they would still have won the league.
posted on 13/4/14
Liverpool not playing international games surely helped them. It keep their players fresh and injury free. Back in December when we were top of the table I said that we Gooners were in the title race. Only injury could prevent us to compete. I was right. It's not an excuse. Its the truth but it's only one reason for our failure.
Liverpool deserve to be top. Best brand of football at the moment with the best goal scoring strike force.
Wenger really need to learn something about the tactical approach and what it could help us if we pay more attention to our tactical approach and invest into depths of the squad which I am sure Wenger will do.
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